fast & the furious 3!!

About a month ago a guy in a riced out neon was muggin me real hard, and staring down the Z. when the light turned green he took off (well, as fast as he could anyway). I was like

"That fool is lucky I'm in the turning lane"

:disappoin

haha i love when i turn and people take off and end up looking like an ass

Like when you got a guy on the hook at a light, getting him to rev up his engine and act stupid. Then he takes off, leaving rubber if he can (doubtful).


Problem was he didn't see the cop right behind him.

Even the cop was laughing at his ass, while the guy was getting written a ticket.

yeah a lot of people will get so determined they dont see the trouble around them lol.

there are going to have a 350z i heard

there are going to have a 350z i heard

Would that be the 350Z that started production in 2001?

i think he was talking about in the fast and furious 3. lol, the topic, remember?

that would still suck if there was a 350z, it would suck if there is any z, but look at the bright side, at least it isn't a 300zx.

that would still suck if there was a 350z, it would suck if there is any z, but look at the bright side, at least it isn't a 300zx.

LOL...any Z would suck. They're already ruined enough cars with those movies...Honda's, Eclispes, Evos, Supras, Skylines...at least leave the real enthusiasts the Z cars.

But yes, on the bright side, at least it wouldn't be the 300ZX. After all, how many of the cheezy ricers can actually afford a new 350Z.

Well how many can afford twin turbo supra's, Evo's, S200's, and skylines, not many but the movie still basically ruined those cars

the movie didn't ruin supra tt's, evo's, s2000's, and skylines in the respect of dumba**es going out and buying them and ricing them out, the movie ruined them by making all the ricers talk about the cars like they know them, and the movie also kind of gave the cars not as much as a, how should i say it, rarity aspect. now everybody knows what a supra, evo, s2000, or a skyline is.

I AGREE...they made it seem common. not like when that muscle car rolled out. They made the others seem perfectly natural everyday cars. (that you can find junked to fix up to be amazing...Supra)

lol, the topic, remember?

Topic...topic...no can't find it anywhere

*tosses the Official Message Board Guide Dictionary out the window*

How about that pudding huh?






As for the latest in movie done automotive atrocities...I really don't care what they put in it. God help them if its a Z32 though. Parts are hard enough to find without a hyped up run on them. Because basically the first movie sucked. The second was worse. I'm not holding out alot of hope for the third.

i hope to god there isnt a z32 in FF3, ill die watching a bunch of little f#cks ruin them. And their was a z in the second one for like half a second right after the first race when the cops start to come after paul takes off, the change screen shots and theres a z in the top right corner all you can see is the headlights. And in the first movie the sounds for the supra were actually a hopped up vg30dett.

damn...i did not know that....thats pretty intersesting. LOL i guess i really love z's.

... Z Animal where are you getting this info from? A link maybe?

Craig Libermans Supra was more than capable of producing its own engine sounds... 750hp+

Not entirely sure where you got that info from.

-Wes

ya, Supra's turbo is more than capable of producing more HPs than VG30DETT

Well I wouldnt say that...

Im not entirely sure what makes the 2JZ GTE engine more easily modded than VG... Sequential turbos maybe?

-Wes

Bad choice of words... Not modded... Ummm... Boosted; HP wise.

-Wes

whatever car is respoinsible for making the sound in the movie, it sounds pretty damn good!

i think ZXtt gets to be about 1100-1200 HP without blowing up

Supra turbo can hold from 1200-1300 HP.

ya got a link to a 300zxtt with 1100hp?
not that i don't beleive you its just i never heard of a 300zxtt over 800hp.

yeah my friend has a TT pushing 800 with one non functioning turbo. They are turbonetics and one came shit from the factory so after he puts that in ill let you know

... The highest I've seen a VG30DETT ever boosted was 1200bhp... John Penlingtons.

And he has gone through MANY MANY MANY engines.

2JZ GTE is a much, much more durable engine than VG.

For daily driving... 750bhp is about as high as you would want to go with VG30DETT.

I've seen Supras at 1360whp... No shit.

I've also seen that SAME Supra getting knocked the hell out by a Mines N1 with 1650whp :D

Keep in mind the RB blew after the run... But hey, the time slip is all that matters.

-Wes

i think ZXtt gets to be about 1100-1200 HP without blowing up

Supra turbo can hold from 1200-1300 HP.

It's very well possible, like the Supra T. It won't be your daily driver though, nor pass the emission standards. Remember, ZXTT, VR-4, and Supra T are in the same league.

You deffinately left out Skyline there... But ok.

Supra is actually up and above the rest of them. Factory HP wise.

-Wes

that's also why Supra is still the most expensive. I left Skyline out, because I don't know, a stock R34 GTR might be too much for either of three, and pricey too. Supra could go head to head, but I believe Skyline will have the upperhand in the Twisites. Plus we don't get too many of'em in the states officially, and Im guessing it's the same for OZ?

Skyine as in GTR... Could be R32, R33, or R34... Prices range from 4grand to 35grand for those models. Supras are just as expensive, so are VR-4s.

TTZD's are the cheapest of them...

OZ?

-Wes

i forgot to add in that my friends from england see skylines over there dailly and his friend has one with 1000 hp

Skyine as in GTR... Could be R32, R33, or R34... Prices range from 4grand to 35grand for those models. Supras are just as expensive, so are VR-4s.

TTZD's are the cheapest of them...

OZ?

-Wes

when you add in the cost to import, they can go well above $45K. not to mention right to left-driving conversion. I remember reading in Automobile magazine quote the price around $60K when R34 came out. Supras are a little bit more expensive than VR-4.

As for OZ, you're an Aussie right? I thought OZ was a short term for Aus - Australia.

God damn you know nothing about Skylines... Or importation.

Christ dude. I used to work for an importer for these things, and that short rambling you just said made absolutely NO FUCKING SENSE!

Just dont talk about things you dont know.

Im in North Carolina too, Deffinately not an Aussey.

Skylines are not required to be LHD (Left Hand Drive) they are MUCH more to import and legalize than $10,000. And they sell in the states anywhere from $75,000-$120,000.

I was speaking of Japanese Domestic Pricing when I said GTR's (R32-R34) range from $4,000 - $35,000

Not United States Domestic.

... Sorry but for some reason that statement pissed me off severely.

-Wes

What the fuck is your problem? On which part did I make false statements? And yes they're required to be left-handed, at least in Florida anyway. And the prices I gave were strictly based on all the used one that has been on e-bay and on the streets. Since I live here, I wouldn't be talking about the fucking cost in Japan.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2485175952&category=6392&sspagename=WDVW

That's a R32, the used ones can be easily had for under $30K.

Unlike 2 Fast 2 Furious, and all those people who decide to avoid the rules, it is mandated by Florida law that all vehicles in Florida must be left-hand drive.

And my mistake, I thought you were in Australia, since you bitch about Zed this and Zed that.

Yea I guess your right...

-Wes

O but one thing...

Skylines are not required by ANY Federal D.O.T law to be Left Hand Drive.

You buy a Skyline off one of those sketchy ass Ebay auctions, the last time you see your car is when its either being exported or destroyed by US-Customs.

In order to buy a car off Ebay and actually have it registered for US Road Use. It must go through a proper RI (Registered Importer) such as MotoRex, RB Motoring, or Automotive Concepts out of Florida.

They take the car, and "legalize" it for United States Usage.

The proper mods are as follows:

-Re-enforced dashbar
-Re-Guided fuel neck
-Side markers on rear valence
-Glass met to DOT Standards
-New VIN number assigned by the DOT
-Meet EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) Standards
-Titled for US usage

Then, and only then can the car be driven on US roads.

There are other ways around that... But they are far too complex for me to discribe to you. Plus the methods are risky, and is only being done by one company; To common knowledge (Skyline Automotive out of Phoenix)

Half of these cars on Ebay are R34's, and later production model R33's. (1996-1997)

And what they dont tell you is that Skylines cannot be legalized past the year 1996 due to OBDII (On-Board Diagnostics level II) Compliance Standards layed out by the Federal DOT and EPA.

And seeming as all Skylines are ODBI Compliant... Only Skylines 1995 - can in fact be legalized for US Road Usage.

So you buy one of these Skylines off Ebay... And you screw yourself out of the:

-Cost of car
-Exportation Fees
-Japanese De-Registration Fees (if they even give you the papers)
-Shipping expenses
-Importation fees

After all of this money spent... Customs will say unless the car is being brought in for Race/Show usage only, it must be sent to an RI before it be acquired by you again.

... So if you cant afford $16,000+ for MotoRex, RB Motoring, or AC legalization charges... Your kind of screwed, huh?

So most people figure they'll just bring the car in for Race/Show use only... Dandy.

What they dont know is that the car can only be kept in the US for a minumun of Three (3) years. Or you can pay a branch fee ($347)allowing you to keep the car in the US for another Two (2) years... Making your maximum allowed possesion of the car... Five years.

Only a few Post-OBDII Compliance Skylines ever made it out of any of these RI's.

Blackbird was one of them (Craig Libermans Skyline... Also known as the 2fast2queer car, that Paul Walker drove). About 70 some-odd of these cars made it out before the cut-off date.

My problem is, is that you were making a statement about information that was completely, and utterly incorrect.

And like I said... Sorry, but for some reason that statement annoyed me.

-Wes

when you add in the cost to import, they can go well above $45K. not to mention right to left-driving conversion. I remember reading in Automobile magazine quote the price around $60K when R34 came out. Supras are a little bit more expensive than VR-4.

As for OZ, you're an Aussie right? I thought OZ was a short term for Aus - Australia.

indeed my statements were based on broad generalization, but so you're saying Skylines R32-R34 on the US Market can't be had $45K once it's already been imported and legalized by the original seller? People don't convert right to left hand-drive? And Florida law does not require left-hand side driving? I find it interesting that you know it for sure, since you're all the way in NC. While one of my friends met with such predicament. And Automobile magazine never featured Skyline R34 on their magazine, quoting the price about USD $60K (asides the import fees)? And you still claim all the stuff I said is incorrect? Perhaps you misunderstood something, considering I wasn't talking about the process of importation, nor how much it will cost to get a brand-new (if) to import it all the way to States from Japan.

Dude... I worked for AN IMPORTER... IMPORTING... SKYLINES... Is this connecting with you?

I am also very much associated with SkylineAmerica.net... Which is based out of Florida. Mike (owner, president, God of company, whatever) is a Skyline Guru... He sells Street Legal R33's and all of his cars are in fact; RHD.

R32's can easily be "had" for $25,000. But you need to find one Pre-Legalized seeming as MotoRex and RB Motoring have taken a sabatical from Legalization for a few months... Actually its been about 6.

R34 GTR's from our WHOLESALER is about $35,000. New, yes; R34 GTR's were $55,500. NEW.

Wholesale, and retail are two entirely different things.

Such as this :

You can buy an R32 GTS-T in Japan (from a wholesaler) for $900 USD, or 98,774.86 JPYen. However... To the public, they can sell for as high as $10,000.

Retail... $10,000... Wholesale $900

It's how people make money.

That is why in "Automobile Magazine" they said the Skyline R34 GTR was (as you said) 60grand. New. Retail.

Used. Wholesale is about $35,000, or even cheaper pending on condition.

... But I guess your still right... Huh?

-Wes

O and magazines arent always right man...

I recently got tore-apart by some guy on a Skyline forum who said my information was wrong on the 2002 Nür.

(I stated that a Nür was a stock V-SpecII with different brakes, valve cover, VIN plate, leather interior. There was no performance difference. And, they were the last 1000 GTR's ever put into production... I quote Road&Track on that. Only half true turns out.)

He brought forth that Nür had N1 block, turbos, crank case, internals and perfomance upgrades... Significantly raising the power from a mild 276 (Japanese Stated BHP Rating) to over 550BHP.

I relectuntly refused to beleive this... Because I read it in a magazine.

Turns out... He was right.

I admited I was wrong, and left it with some new knowledge.

Nothing wrong, or degrading there.

-Wes

I think you missed the point, ;). But of course, you're right about what you're saying.

What is the point?

That I flipped out over something very miniscule?

Yea I did... Like I stated in my first post...

"For some reason that statement annoyed me"

And it did.

... That was fun, lets do it again :D

(Ok back to sanity)

-Wes

indeed my statements were based on broad generalization.... Perhaps you misunderstood something, considering I wasn't talking about the process of importation, nor how much it will cost to get a brand-new (if) to import it all the way to States from Japan.

No, but above.

Say, could you hook me up with wholesale cost of a R32 with everything legalized for the States? :rofl:

Hup Prolly Not...

Haha.

-Wes

since you got inside connection, just curious, what would be the cheapest you can get for a R32 with low mileage and fully legalized?

wow I learned quite a bit in a thread that I expected to only see rice jokes(although im still kind of disappointed about the lack of..)
I have one question, as a rought guess how many skylines would you(anyone who knows) say are imported/sold and drivin in the US? I have still yet to see one and yet prices that I see at motorex arent that high(well for the r32's anyway..)
anyway, keep the 300zx out of ff3. let them ruin nissans good name with the silvia's... :(
:P

MotoRex has sold 85 legalized Skylines... RB Motoring (I've heard... Dont quote me here) has sold about 45. And private importation companies have sold about two-dozen.

Anyways Z Fanatic...

R32 GTS-T... My buddy has one with an RB26DETT powertrain for $21,500. Legalized.

Yea, they're not cheap.

-Wes

MotoRex has sold 85 legalized Skylines... RB Motoring (I've heard... Dont quote me here) has sold about 45. And private importation companies have sold about two-dozen.

Anyways Z Fanatic...

R32 GTS-T... My buddy has one with an RB26DETT powertrain for $21,500. Legalized.

Yea, they're not cheap.

-Wes

Beats getting a 350Z, I'd take that over it.

This guy was the guy I was going to buy the RB25DET for my 240sx from. But he has a few other odds and ends as well. Check his site.

www.night7racing.com

Those are all still "Just waiting to be imported" though. Whatever the hell that means. And I don't know why but the nose of an R34-GTR reminds me of the original mustangs, especially the GT 350s and such.

Broke thats my GOOD friend, Cameron.

My friend Jordan used to be in business with him... I think Jordan was Zoso on here.

Anyways, if you still want an RB25DET, I can get you one no problem. There sitting in our warehouse ready to ship out.

Give me a call at 910 612 0425 Broke... Look forward to talking with you.

-Wes

You deffinately left out Skyline there... But ok.

Supra is actually up and above the rest of them. Factory HP wise.

-Wes

the vr4 is also 320hp 315lbs tq, just like the supra.

and how much was a supra when they first came out? i believe the vr4 was 44 grand

Well I don't really need the Rb anymore. That was kind of plan A, the hopped up 240sx. Then when i totaled how much it would cost to build the car I wanted, I just bought a 300ZX TT instead. I wasn't going to do anything to it really. I got it for 10,500 (guy was hard up desperate for money) and they sell for about 14-16k around here (at least at the time). So I figured I could keep it for the summer, sell it before the winter and maybe even make a little money on the deal.

Then my engine blew up on the drive home.

Now I'm about neck deep in what will be about 13k worth of upgrades to the Z, the car is just sitting there with a perfectly good motor next to it, I could be driving it in a week if I wanted to. But no, I got to upgrade the turbos and the intercoolers and the exhaust front front to rear. Of course I'll have a 500 rwhp car the end but thats still a month or two off. So much for the summer.

it will def be worth the wait

Your telling me... Im itching to drive my new Zed.

youngvr4... I almost bought a 1992 VR-4 as well. The lady only wanted $4,000 for it (becuase she was a life long friend of my mothers, and she was tired of... Shifting so much :lol: )

Anyways... I didnt want to abondon my Zed Dynasty. So back to Square-One.

-Wes

Your telling me... Im itching to drive my new Zed.

youngvr4... I almost bought a 1992 VR-4 as well. The lady only wanted $4,000 for it (becuase she was a life long friend of my mothers, and she was tired of... Shifting so much :lol: )

Anyways... I didnt want to abondon my Zed Dynasty. So back to Square-One.

-Wes

$4000 for a 92 VR-4? Sounds like it would of been one heck of a deal.

Yeah... I'd sport a VR4... but not before a Z32 TT!!!

As for night7.... Not to spread shit-talking... but I know people had problems with them! I used to talk with 'Zoso' also and he was very informative... a good guy I thought! But I guess there were some kind of misunderstandings.... to be fair I mention this. Not to 'shit-talk'...

Jordan's one of my good friends. I dont know what happened on here. All he told me is he got banned for some silly reason, that he wasnt even aware of.

He taught me the basics with Zed's when I was 15, and cars for that matter. And I expanded from there... I know even more than him now.

But as for NSR. Cameron is a good guy caught in a bad situation. Me and Jordan are going out to Phoenix next summer to build our Zeds. Cant wait...

Anyways, I appreciate you for not "talking-shit" George... It's not cool to do that to someone who cant defend themselves. Props.

-Wes

back to fast and furious , who else thought sukie was gross. I think in fast and furious 3 they should use hot girls more instead of just 1. I didnt think fast and the furious 1 was so bad, after all it got me into cars which lead me to these boards. No im not a ricer, but i did enjoy the movie. F&F2 sucked, so much more fake then the 1st.

I agree with you billy. the 2nd was a horrible movie by any standers im my opinion.
im assuming sukie was that mutt that in the pink s2000?

I agree with you billy. the 2nd was a horrible movie by any standers im my opinion.
im assuming sukie was that mutt that in the pink s2000?

Yes, she was the one that drove the pink S2000. I didn't actaully remember her name until it was posted in here...how awful, now I am stuck with such unless knowlegde, and memories of quiet possibly the worst movie I have ever seen. I sure hope there's no 3rd one. Number 2 was so bad, I can't imagine how they can make the 3rd any worse (I am sure they will find a way, though I really hope we never find out).

devon aoki, she's a model and bangable. I have nothing against "mutts."

Broke thats my GOOD friend, Cameron.

My friend Jordan used to be in business with him...

-Wes


Oh word? I heard he was some little jerk 19 year old thats been squandering and grifted people out of over $200,000 and is getting sued.

Try $200, and one guy. Not people. And if you want my opinion... Guy deserved it (from the side of the story that I heard)

Im not in with his business, nor do I care to be. Im simply a good friend of his.

My buddy Jordan used to be in business with him. USED to.

Back to Fast and Furious Ricer Fag BS :D

-Wes