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btopunkrock
06-20-2004, 02:35 AM
Aright... I got a brand new '03 Civic 4 door. I've been testin out how fast it can go against my friend's classics. This car can't really compete, yet. I was wondering if you guys could kinda point me in the right direction towards gettin this car hopped up on the speed end of things. I've been looking at a lot of the upgrades on some web sites but i dont know where to start or what would do what i want without wasting money. Gimme some ideas if ya can, but i am on a budget so nothin crazy.
thanks
thanks
E Honda
06-20-2004, 03:03 AM
Cold air intake, header and light weight Flywheel would be a good place to start. The first 2 are ez to install and the clutch and flywheel with the right tools can be done in an afternoon.
Good Luck
E.Honda
Good Luck
E.Honda
kicker1_solo
06-20-2004, 03:16 AM
worst thread ever. :rolleyes:
Miataracer
06-20-2004, 03:44 AM
worst thread ever. :rolleyes:
agreed!
agreed!
Ricochet
06-20-2004, 05:20 AM
Nawz!
xproductionz
06-20-2004, 12:00 PM
hmmm
91300zxtt
06-20-2004, 01:27 PM
i got a real good idea for you/ its a secret though. only a select few have done this and its supposed to be amazing.
SEARCH!!!!
SEARCH!!!!
Alejo_nin
06-20-2004, 01:32 PM
get some NOS stickers!!! that always help...and a big as wing and a fartcan
sageuvagony
06-20-2004, 01:57 PM
poop :lol2:
SCATR17
06-20-2004, 03:23 PM
wow. you guys are helpful.
well man. you have a four door civic. so you really dont have much going for you. the only way you're gonna get real power is with plenty of money. you can always take out the interior (do you really need those back seats?) and get some carbon fiber parts (hood/fenders/trunk lid) to reduce the weight. an engine swap would be ideal but expensive. you could always get a JR supercharger or a turbo kit but those can be very expensive. if you want you could always do a junkyard turbo and scrap around for parts until you can build one.
well man. you have a four door civic. so you really dont have much going for you. the only way you're gonna get real power is with plenty of money. you can always take out the interior (do you really need those back seats?) and get some carbon fiber parts (hood/fenders/trunk lid) to reduce the weight. an engine swap would be ideal but expensive. you could always get a JR supercharger or a turbo kit but those can be very expensive. if you want you could always do a junkyard turbo and scrap around for parts until you can build one.
96Civic_Coupe
06-20-2004, 03:29 PM
trade it in for a VIII
Beastiek2
06-20-2004, 03:43 PM
Cold air intake, header and light weight Flywheel would be a good place to start. The first 2 are ez to install and the clutch and flywheel with the right tools can be done in an afternoon.
Good Luck
E.Honda
OK NO do this after you drop a new engine in or get a turbo
no need for a clutch and wheel, your not gonna get anything out of intake and headers either so save ur loot and drop a k20 or turbo it
those are ur choices if you want a fast car
Good Luck
E.Honda
OK NO do this after you drop a new engine in or get a turbo
no need for a clutch and wheel, your not gonna get anything out of intake and headers either so save ur loot and drop a k20 or turbo it
those are ur choices if you want a fast car
91300zxtt
06-20-2004, 03:44 PM
wow. you guys are helpful.
well man. you have a four door civic. so you really dont have much going for you. the only way you're gonna get real power is with plenty of money. you can always take out the interior (do you really need those back seats?) and get some carbon fiber parts (hood/fenders/trunk lid) to reduce the weight. an engine swap would be ideal but expensive. you could always get a JR supercharger or a turbo kit but those can be very expensive. if you want you could always do a junkyard turbo and scrap around for parts until you can build one.
HAHAHAAHA good advice NEWB.
well man. you have a four door civic. so you really dont have much going for you. the only way you're gonna get real power is with plenty of money. you can always take out the interior (do you really need those back seats?) and get some carbon fiber parts (hood/fenders/trunk lid) to reduce the weight. an engine swap would be ideal but expensive. you could always get a JR supercharger or a turbo kit but those can be very expensive. if you want you could always do a junkyard turbo and scrap around for parts until you can build one.
HAHAHAAHA good advice NEWB.
alphalanos
06-20-2004, 03:48 PM
damn AF is getting vicious
not everyone has the cash and resources to do an engine swap. just tell the guy some bolt ons he could do to at least make the car somewhat enjoyable. god.
not everyone has the cash and resources to do an engine swap. just tell the guy some bolt ons he could do to at least make the car somewhat enjoyable. god.
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06-20-2004, 03:54 PM
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E Honda
06-20-2004, 04:27 PM
OK NO do this after you drop a new engine in or get a turbo
no need for a clutch and wheel, your not gonna get anything out of intake and headers either so save ur loot and drop a k20 or turbo it
those are ur choices if you want a fast car
Don't listen to the majority of these guys...I am not sure but most (not all) seem to be teenagers who just have gotten their first car or picked up an import tuner magazine and think they have rice in their blood. First off a motor swap at this time is the worst thing you can do.....Since you say your car is new the warranty will be null if you swap motors....The info I provided will help any motor ....While the gains are minimal they are noticeable. I have personally used the mods I mentioned and will not recommend anything that I have not tested myself. One thing you should check before any engine mods are done is......Make sure you will not void your warranty. The simple bolt ons can be changed back if needed. Be sure what your intentions are...Keep in mind also that keeping a daily driver as a race car is a somewhat hard thing to do. Dependability is the main factor in a daily driver. Consider buying a low option civic hatch and using it to race. They can be found for a few hundred bucks (needing some work in most cases) and are easy to find. Also you did not mention where you are from.....If your state has smog laws you will have to find part that are C.A.R.B legal.
Good luck and congrats on the new car.
E.Honda
no need for a clutch and wheel, your not gonna get anything out of intake and headers either so save ur loot and drop a k20 or turbo it
those are ur choices if you want a fast car
Don't listen to the majority of these guys...I am not sure but most (not all) seem to be teenagers who just have gotten their first car or picked up an import tuner magazine and think they have rice in their blood. First off a motor swap at this time is the worst thing you can do.....Since you say your car is new the warranty will be null if you swap motors....The info I provided will help any motor ....While the gains are minimal they are noticeable. I have personally used the mods I mentioned and will not recommend anything that I have not tested myself. One thing you should check before any engine mods are done is......Make sure you will not void your warranty. The simple bolt ons can be changed back if needed. Be sure what your intentions are...Keep in mind also that keeping a daily driver as a race car is a somewhat hard thing to do. Dependability is the main factor in a daily driver. Consider buying a low option civic hatch and using it to race. They can be found for a few hundred bucks (needing some work in most cases) and are easy to find. Also you did not mention where you are from.....If your state has smog laws you will have to find part that are C.A.R.B legal.
Good luck and congrats on the new car.
E.Honda
CivicSpoon
06-20-2004, 04:43 PM
Exactly what E Honda said. Simple bolt-ons are the way to go with your brand new car. But i believe even the header and probably the intake will void your warranty, so I would go to your local Honda dealership and ask them about it before you do anything. But yes once your warranty runs out save up the $ and go with the k20 swap or turbo.
Beastiek2
06-20-2004, 05:16 PM
Don't listen to the majority of these guys...I am not sure but most (not all) seem to be teenagers who just have gotten their first car or picked up an import tuner magazine and think they have rice in their blood. First off a motor swap at this time is the worst thing you can do.....Since you say your car is new the warranty will be null if you swap motors....The info I provided will help any motor ....While the gains are minimal they are noticeable. I have personally used the mods I mentioned and will not recommend anything that I have not tested myself. One thing you should check before any engine mods are done is......Make sure you will not void your warranty. The simple bolt ons can be changed back if needed. Be sure what your intentions are...Keep in mind also that keeping a daily driver as a race car is a somewhat hard thing to do. Dependability is the main factor in a daily driver. Consider buying a low option civic hatch and using it to race. They can be found for a few hundred bucks (needing some work in most cases) and are easy to find. Also you did not mention where you are from.....If your state has smog laws you will have to find part that are C.A.R.B legal.
Good luck and congrats on the new car.
E.Honda
try again kiddo - ur intake and headers wont do much for power
if you want power it will cost ya thats the bottom line - and if you like ur car then you dont need to buy a HATCH and use it to race ahve fun with this one
Good luck and congrats on the new car.
E.Honda
try again kiddo - ur intake and headers wont do much for power
if you want power it will cost ya thats the bottom line - and if you like ur car then you dont need to buy a HATCH and use it to race ahve fun with this one
Jas_M
06-20-2004, 05:21 PM
The bolt-ons by themselves shouldn't void the warranty at all. The only way they would is if something were to go wrong with the engine, and the cause is directly due to whatever bolt-ons were installed. Obviously an engine swap is going to void the warranty, no question about that. However, there should be no problems putting on an I/H/E, as long as it's done correctly.
btopunkrock
06-20-2004, 06:34 PM
Aright, thanks for all the help. I think i'm gonna go for a turbo kit for now until i have money for a swap and the warranty runs out. Oh yea, I live in New York for whoever was asking.
E Honda
06-20-2004, 06:42 PM
Aright, thanks for the ideas SCATR. I think i'm gonna go for the turbo kit until i have money for a swap.
A turbo will def void the warranty........
And not a quick un-install as it requires alot of mods....Maybe consider a 50 to 75 shot of Nitrous.....
But good luck on what ever it is you try to install.
E. Honda.....
A turbo will def void the warranty........
And not a quick un-install as it requires alot of mods....Maybe consider a 50 to 75 shot of Nitrous.....
But good luck on what ever it is you try to install.
E. Honda.....
E Honda
06-20-2004, 06:52 PM
try again kiddo - ur intake and headers wont do much for power
if you want power it will cost ya thats the bottom line - and if you like ur car then you dont need to buy a HATCH and use it to race ahve fun with this one
Kiddo.......hahaha.......I have been building cars for 22 years....I think I am beyond kiddo......
Go ahead take this bad advice and when you jack summin up on your NEW daily driver that has your car sitting while you wait for parts or in the shop costing you time off work. Makes perfect sense to me. :screwy: On a stock motor the best bolt on for power and torque is a header..... Since you said you are on a budget I refrained from including the turbo, supercharger or nitrous.
if you want power it will cost ya thats the bottom line - and if you like ur car then you dont need to buy a HATCH and use it to race ahve fun with this one
Kiddo.......hahaha.......I have been building cars for 22 years....I think I am beyond kiddo......
Go ahead take this bad advice and when you jack summin up on your NEW daily driver that has your car sitting while you wait for parts or in the shop costing you time off work. Makes perfect sense to me. :screwy: On a stock motor the best bolt on for power and torque is a header..... Since you said you are on a budget I refrained from including the turbo, supercharger or nitrous.
91300zxtt
06-20-2004, 06:57 PM
holy crap e. honda 1967 shit
BLU CIVIC
06-20-2004, 07:56 PM
i saywork the suspension 1st
kicker1_solo
06-20-2004, 08:32 PM
wow. you guys are helpful.
well man. you have a four door civic. so you really dont have much going for you. the only way you're gonna get real power is with plenty of money. you can always take out the interior (do you really need those back seats?) and get some carbon fiber parts (hood/fenders/trunk lid) to reduce the weight. an engine swap would be ideal but expensive. you could always get a JR supercharger or a turbo kit but those can be very expensive. if you want you could always do a junkyard turbo and scrap around for parts until you can build one.
congratulations, you just won the fucktard of the thread award. A four door civic is slow because it's a four door? Wow, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Not much slower, not much at all. You tell him that a swap is expensive but you tell him to get $1,500 worth of CF parts which would knock off maybe 1/4 of a second? Wow. He could spend $1,500 on performance parts and take a few seconds off his time. Repeat after me "I will never ever hit the "submit reply" button again" :slap:
well man. you have a four door civic. so you really dont have much going for you. the only way you're gonna get real power is with plenty of money. you can always take out the interior (do you really need those back seats?) and get some carbon fiber parts (hood/fenders/trunk lid) to reduce the weight. an engine swap would be ideal but expensive. you could always get a JR supercharger or a turbo kit but those can be very expensive. if you want you could always do a junkyard turbo and scrap around for parts until you can build one.
congratulations, you just won the fucktard of the thread award. A four door civic is slow because it's a four door? Wow, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Not much slower, not much at all. You tell him that a swap is expensive but you tell him to get $1,500 worth of CF parts which would knock off maybe 1/4 of a second? Wow. He could spend $1,500 on performance parts and take a few seconds off his time. Repeat after me "I will never ever hit the "submit reply" button again" :slap:
91300zxtt
06-20-2004, 08:39 PM
congratulations, you just won the fucktard of the thread award. A four door civic is slow because it's a four door? Wow, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Not much slower, not much at all. You tell him that a swap is expensive but you tell him to get $1,500 worth of CF parts which would knock off maybe 1/4 of a second? Wow. He could spend $1,500 on performance parts and take a few seconds off his time. Repeat after me "I will never ever again hit the "submit reply" button again" :slap:
HAHAHA i agree 100%:rofl:
HAHAHA i agree 100%:rofl:
emerge
06-20-2004, 09:05 PM
TURBO
CivicSiRacer
06-20-2004, 10:47 PM
Aright... I got a brand new '03 Civic 4 door. I've been testin out how fast it can go against my friend's classics. This car can't really compete, yet. I was wondering if you guys could kinda point me in the right direction towards gettin this car hopped up on the speed end of things. I've been looking at a lot of the upgrades on some web sites but i dont know where to start or what would do what i want without wasting money. Gimme some ideas if ya can, but i am on a budget so nothin crazy.
thanks
If you guys cannot be helpful then don't reply. You make the rest of us Civic owners look like idiots.
Basic bolt ons will not do much for performance. The best way to get performance out of any Civic are motor swaps, turbos or superchargers. But since you have a 03 Civic your options are limited to the K series engines for the moment. Some companies are coming out with turbos and superchargers for newer cars, but you have ot be patient.
What I can tell you is that a Civic is a great handling car. Challenge your friends to an autocross and see who has the better PAX time, which is driver skill instead of RAW time.
thanks
If you guys cannot be helpful then don't reply. You make the rest of us Civic owners look like idiots.
Basic bolt ons will not do much for performance. The best way to get performance out of any Civic are motor swaps, turbos or superchargers. But since you have a 03 Civic your options are limited to the K series engines for the moment. Some companies are coming out with turbos and superchargers for newer cars, but you have ot be patient.
What I can tell you is that a Civic is a great handling car. Challenge your friends to an autocross and see who has the better PAX time, which is driver skill instead of RAW time.
BLU CIVIC
06-20-2004, 11:25 PM
man...try and help somone out and they tur around and give u bad rep points
E Honda
06-21-2004, 12:08 PM
congratulations, you just won the fucktard of the thread award. A four door civic is slow because it's a four door? Wow, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Not much slower, not much at all. You tell him that a swap is expensive but you tell him to get $1,500 worth of CF parts which would knock off maybe 1/4 of a second? Wow. He could spend $1,500 on performance parts and take a few seconds off his time. Repeat after me "I will never ever hit the "submit reply" button again" :slap:
$1500.00 and a few seconds off 1/4 mile time..... :rofl: I would like to hear what can be bought for $1500.00 that will knock off 3 seconds of time. Since 2 seconds would be a couple and a few has to be 3 or more...Just curious..... :grinno:
$1500.00 and a few seconds off 1/4 mile time..... :rofl: I would like to hear what can be bought for $1500.00 that will knock off 3 seconds of time. Since 2 seconds would be a couple and a few has to be 3 or more...Just curious..... :grinno:
emerge
06-21-2004, 12:22 PM
What I can tell you is that a Civic is a great handling car. Challenge your friends to an autocross and see who has the better PAX time, which is driver skill instead of RAW time.
Yeah. Civics are notorious for great autocrossing. I still say you should go with a turbo though.
Yeah. Civics are notorious for great autocrossing. I still say you should go with a turbo though.
Beastiek2
06-21-2004, 12:43 PM
i agree with the handeling i have been looking into the auto cross thing as well -
dude have fun with your car its a civic :p
dude have fun with your car its a civic :p
BLU CIVIC
06-21-2004, 12:52 PM
why would sum1 give you bad rep?
said i was no help when i said to do his suspension 1st :screwy:
said i was no help when i said to do his suspension 1st :screwy:
91300zxtt
06-21-2004, 01:32 PM
haha what a fool
kicker1_solo
06-21-2004, 08:20 PM
$1500.00 and a few seconds off 1/4 mile time..... :rofl: I would like to hear what can be bought for $1500.00 that will knock off 3 seconds of time. Since 2 seconds would be a couple and a few has to be 3 or more...Just curious..... :grinno:
Intake $40
Exhaust $160
Header $300
Nitrous $500
that's only $1,000 and it took 3 seconds off of my civic. :)
Intake $40
Exhaust $160
Header $300
Nitrous $500
that's only $1,000 and it took 3 seconds off of my civic. :)
CivicSpoon
06-21-2004, 08:49 PM
What a prick. I've got an idea for adding more power. Instead of doing what everyone else said; I think btopunkrock should hook up a 75 shot of NOS, buy a turbo kit and run it to at least 12psi on your stock motor, forget about lowering and just cut your springs, fill your car up with subs, eat 10lbs of food everyday so you gain more weight (more weight will help you stick to the ground better), and only change your oil every 6000 miles because all the gunk in you oil will actually help hold all your engine parts in place better in your engine. That would be one killer and fairly cheap setup, you should do that. And then after that when you want help from people you can stick your questions straight up your a$$ you loser. People like that deserve to ride on people's asses in traffic and have the person in front of them slam on the brakes. If you want people's opinions then you have to listen to them and consider them; seeing as how you're too ignorant to come up with your own ideas on what to do with your car.
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