Del Sol with h22A

just got a del sol back from the shop with an h22a. I also own a 97tsi turbo awd talon and i am a little dissapointed in the del sol. It seems to be a bit of a slug. The guy says that the motor needs some miles on it before it "comes to life". The motor has 30,000KM from japan so should it not already be broken in??

It's been sitting unused for a little while before you swapped it in. Motors kinda have to be re-broken in after they sit for a while.

so how much % should it be running right now?? is it running like 70% of its max power or 80?? because i am really not too happy with this motor

Well, you're used to driving a turbo car. The Del Sol will feel slower since it's N/A and not making as much power as the turbo car. Plus it's a stock H22A, isn't it? Or have you done any aftermarket upgrades to it? How far up the tach are you taking it? You'll notice most of the power in the upper rpm range when VTEC engages.

talon only has 210 and the h22a has 220, so i thought. Anyways i have taken it up to 7 grand. I also just found out i dont have any intake on it. I poped the hood for the first time last night and i dont have ANYTHING, no filter no arm no anything. The motor also has a funny idel. It dips from 1000 to 500 and then back up again, then back down to 500. Yea the motor is stock.

Japan had two H22A motors. The Type-S Prelude had 220hp, the SiR Prelude had 200hp. Do you know for sure your motor came out of the Type-S?

Also, if you have no intake, that's part of the problem. Your motor is getting dirty, unfiltered air without velocity. It's probably not filling the combustion chambers properly. Put an intake on it and I bet you'll see a difference. It's probably part of your idle problem as well since the motor is not operating as it's supposed to - no intake or filter. It's probably messing with your MAP sensor causing the erratic idle.

And if your shop left you without an intake, I'd check everything to make sure they didn't forget anything else. And I'd also yell at the manager for that crap - inexcusable when performing a swap. Those things cost a lot of money.

the shop sucks. I only found this out after i payed them 3/4 of the amount of money. They have had the car for over a year. But ya for sure i am getting an intake. As far as which h22a it is i was told it was the 220hp one but i bet they gave me the crappy one. Is there a way i can find out by looking at the motor.

I also dont have a head light. they left the shift knob and boot off, no windows washer fluid, 3rd gear in the tranny grinds a little (sycro i think)

Jeeze... sounds like I'd be asking for some of that money back. It doesn't take a year to do a swap and the shape they left your car in is atrocious.

Not sure off-hand how to tell the two H22A's apart. I would jump in either the JDM Parts forum or the Prelude forum and ask. And if your transmission is grinding in 3rd, I would start by checking transmission and clutch fluid. If still an issue, might either be the clutch assembly (pressure plate, disc, or throwout bearing) is wearing out or might be the syncros. I'd replace the transmission fluid with Honda transmission fluid first and see if that helps. Maybe the transmission fluid filter too. Just some ideas here.

lol, i am building a case right now for court. i am going to change the trans fluid for sure. Do some work on it before it gets really bad.
Thanks for the help man!

Sure thing. :) Another place you could ask is the Team Del Sol forum in my signature. Those guys know a hell of a lot more than I do. :p Plus a few of them have swapped in H22A's, so you've got some people with experience to ask.

I am a newbie here watch me crawl! First of all, I can't recall an engine swap that I have done were the engine has to be broken in again. Second, the del sol is heavy so gut it for maximum performance, Most importantly, watch it red lineing that engine because the oil galleys should really be bigger for that engine. I have done several 22 swaps because of blown engines and most of them were in the #1 cylender.

How the hell do you leave off the intake!!! I mean, when you look under the hood, thats one of the main things coming off the engine. There is absolutely no way they "forgot" to put on the intake. They either broke it, or never had one in the first place. I mean, how can you sit there after a swap and say, everything looks right, and forget the intake....Sounds like you got pushed over man....hope everything works out. By the way, how does the sol handle with that heavy beast up front?

I am a newbie here watch me crawl! First of all, I can't recall an engine swap that I have done were the engine has to be broken in again. Second, the del sol is heavy so gut it for maximum performance

If a motor's been sitting long enough it needs to be broken in again to rid itself of residual fluids and buildup from sitting around. Not broken in a like a new motor, but just run for a little while. His biggest problem was probably the missing intake and anything else the shop might have botched. Hell, they probably didn't wire in VTEC correctly for all we know, or put in the right ECU even. No telling.

And you do realize that the Del Sol is only about 70lbs heavier than a '92-'95 Civic hatch? That's one of the biggest misconceptions about our cars.

sorry mAN