Mustang V.S. Evolution

Ok one of my friends has a 200 Ford Mustang SVT, it has a V8, Supercharger, and a six speed. He and one of the "rich kids" :disappoin from school are going to drag race out on this closed highway off of Highway 151. The rich kid has a Mitsubishi Evolution which I think is bone stock with a 5 speed (I think).

Well my friend with the Ford is kind of a gear head and has that car running perfect and he's also a hell of a driver, I just don't now if the Mustang can take the Evo :uhoh: . Despite the fack that it is a pretty straight highway (a few wide easy corners but it should favor the Mustang)

Thanks!

....... Well I would think that has the potential to be a drivers race but there are alot of factors that will probably play into the race. First and most important is driver skill. Now the stang owner will have to know how to launch is car because we all know about the deadly AWD LAUNCH! (I love my gsx) But also remember that AWD drivetrains have greater hp loss to the wheels because of the drivetrain and might not be so good at higher speeds (I hate my gsx). But anywayz, I say if its a quarter mile stop to go run, put your money on the evo. But if it's from a go......... well then it's gonna be close, but I'd probably still put the money on the evo.

if he knows how to drive your gona see the evo kill him off the line, most likely the evo will win the race but if he can drive a lot better than the evo driver then he has a chance of winning

im gonna have to disagree i think ur friend could take him in the svt imo the evo will most likely get him off the line but the stang will pull like crazy after that

what hp has the mustang got with a supercharger?

A 2000 SVT makes 385 hp and 385 ft pounds of torque stock and with a 0-60 time of 4.5 sec. :naughty: Then you add a Supercharger that is a FAST car. He's never told me the exact horsepower figures, but he has shown me the engine and that thing is sweet. If you don't belive my info go to http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/fordmustangcobrar.html

Oh yea I should mention that the mustang is a 2000 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra R; I just call it an SVT because it takes too long to say "2000 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra R" :eek:

you got pics of his car?

If he can drive AT ALL the Cobra wins....

04-2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII

The 8th-gen Evo is a hardcore rally-bred sports car based on the restyled Mitsubishi Lancer econocar, but underneath its skin lies a powerful turbocharged engine and an advanced four-wheel-drive system. Detuned for the US market.

Base price : $28,987 Get a free price quote

Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine AWD
Displacement : 1,997 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 26 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent multilink
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Vented discs

Horsepower : 271 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque : 273 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline : 7000 rpm

Top speed : 156 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 4.8 sec.
0-¼ mile : 13.1 sec @ 105.1 mph
60-0 braking distance : 110 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.95 g

Curb Weight : 3263 lbs
Overall length : 178.5 in.
Wheelbase : 103.3 in.
Overall Width : 69.7 in.
Height : 57.1 in.

show me were a 2000 cobra runs 13.1
now if were talking the 2003 cobra svt then thats a diff story. most people are running about 13.4 with there evo's as you would have to be a superb driver to get 13.1. obvioulsy many of you have not been doing your homework. they had tons of evo vs sti comparisons in magazines and they ran them at 13.1 and 13.2. if you doubt my knowledge then ask a moderator and or do a little more homework. im not trying to sound like an a$$ but it seems as if you guys don't know a lot about the evo-8

If I'm correct, the 1999-2000 svt isn't stock supercharged and was only a 5 speed. Now if this guy put in a aftermarket super then bye bye evo (if the stang can drive) but if it's an 01-02 svt then they were stock supercharged and 6 speed. in that case it's a drivers race (but my money's still on the evo.)

2001 Ford Mustang Svt (stock supercharged)
Obtained from C&D July, 2001
0-60: 4.8 1/4 Mile: 13.5
1/4 Speed: 105

1999 Ford Mustang SVT (not stock Supercharger)
0-60: 5.5
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed: 101

2004 Mitsu EvoVIII
Obtained from C&D June, 2003
0-60: 4.6
1/4 Mile: 13.1
1/4 Speed: 105

yep, i'm betting on the evo...
especially on the street...
traction pwns you...

Savior1974
Please click on the link to http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/fordmustangcobrar.html

It clearly States that the 2000 Mustang SVT Cobra R is a SIX SPEED. And yes my friend has an AFTERMARKET SUPERCHARGER on it.

STOCK 2000 MUSTANG SVT COBRA R STATS:

General Information
Price: $55,000
Miles Per Gallon: 13/18 mpg
Curb Weight: 3590 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 5409 cc
Horsepower: 385 bhp @ 6250 rpm
Torque: 385 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
0-100 mph: 10.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.9 sec @ 113 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: 175 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 115 ft
Slalom Speed: 69.3 mph

Now just add a Superchager to that!

Sorry if I sounded harsh but had to get the record straight.

:sly: I don't know what some of you guys are talking about - there's a supercharger on that Mustang. How in the heck is a bone stock EVO going to hang with that sucker. Unless the guy has a terrible launch and misses some shifts, it won't even be close.

Mustang's prolly in the 11's, with the supercharger... no way the EVO with hang with it.

Savior1974
Please click on the link to http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/fordmustangcobrar.html

It clearly States that the 2000 Mustang SVT Cobra R is a SIX SPEED. And yes my friend has an AFTERMARKET SUPERCHARGER on it.

STOCK 2000 MUSTANG SVT COBRA R STATS:

General Information
Price: $55,000
Miles Per Gallon: 13/18 mpg
Curb Weight: 3590 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 5409 cc
Horsepower: 385 bhp @ 6250 rpm
Torque: 385 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
0-100 mph: 10.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.9 sec @ 113 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: 175 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 115 ft
Slalom Speed: 69.3 mph

Now just add a Superchager to that!

Sorry if I sounded harsh but had to get the record straight.

Well first off, you never said your pal had a Cobra "R".Thats a different car then just a Svt.If your buddy actually has a Cobra R then yea he would take the Evo.Seeing as how the Cobra R came supercharged.Did you not know this??Cuz it sure sounds like you just keep finding new stuff on the net and then are like "oh what i meant was this"

And what are you talking about "one of th rich kids from school".The cobra R is almost 20 grand more then an Evo and you are making seem like "this rich kid" has a fukkin supercar.Get your facts straight buddy.Cuz your buddy is one of these "rich kids" too if you haven't noticed.Regardless if he's a gear head or not, the money has to be comming from somewhere to afford one of those.

Also, if your buddy does have a "cobra R" post pix.
:useless:
cuz i'm callin BS until you show me that your "rich kid" buddy has a cobra R.

DUDE, THE COBRA R AND THE SVT COBRA ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE SVT COBRA AND THE COBRA R ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONLY 300 COBRA R'S WERE RELEASED AND THERE WERE MANY SVT'S. Cobra R was a upgraded version of the svt cobra. I am 100% positive of this because in 2000 Fritts Ford in riverside got in 1 cobra R in but like 10 SVT's. My girlfriends dad works there and he took us to go see it before the guy that ordered it came to get it.

:chair: the pwnage begins :slap:

i was stating stock for stock, though now that i know he hs an aftermarket supercharger in it then its a diff story. also mummm many sites say diff things mine says one your's says another, you tell me to click on your site i can say click on mine. thats basically called magazine racing. now from what i've seen the 2000 cobra's have been running high 13's at the track the o3 cobra's i've seen run the 13.1 and even lower like 12.8 stock. so lets not get so bent outa shape about these sites.

now that i' aware that the 2000 cobra's didn't come with a supercharer then the stang should give him the works

:chair: the pwnage begins :slap:
I think we should share this pwnage Savior, seeing as we both had this damn newb in the bag around the same time.

I'm waiting to see his "my buddy does have a Cobra R" LOL

What a :loser: !

mumm's site was talking about the Cobra "R". He said his friend has an Svt Cobra. Two different cars. Cobra R's run about as fast as the new 2003 cobra (12.9 1/4 mile) but a stock 1999-200 Svt might run high-mid 13's (with a fantastic driver) which no match for an evo. Now if his friend has an after market super... then he'll demolish the evo

I agree to share the pwnage :D

OMG OMG you pwned him!! OMG OMG :gives:

seriously.
there's far too much confusion going on in here.

svt cobra r.
you got a VIN #?
there were only 300 of them made.
which one is it in the series?

mumm's site was talking about the Cobra "R". He said his friend has an Svt Cobra. Two different cars. Cobra R's run about as fast as the new 2003 cobra (12.9 1/4 mile) but a stock 1999-200 Svt might run high-mid 13's (with a fantastic driver) which no match for an evo. Now if his friend has an after market super... then he'll demolish the evo

Tru.......even with just an SVT thats supercharged, he''l whoop the bone stock evo.I just don't like how he started comparing his buddies car to an R.Those cars are awesome stock......makes me drool.... :icon16:

http://www.springfieldford.org/svt/cobrar.html

maybe he forgot to say R.. There IS a SVT Cobra R....

o snap sk8er you pwn3d them

I did?

we're all aware that there was a cobra R.
hence my mention of the 300 cars.

but they weren't s/c'd.
regardless, this thread stinks of BS.

thank you flylwsi. We all acknoledge that the "R" does exhist but he said "SVT" NOT "R". Hell I know if I was taling about a Cobra R I wouldn't call it an SVT

you obviously dont understand me.. just cause he said SVT cobra.. MAYBE he forgot the R.. huh just maybe he did? the full name is SVT Cobra R

I did?

no not really i just dont see the reason for saying pawn3d so in essence i was making fun of them as you did. pawn3d:disappoin

:lol:

i think it'd be hard to forget the R at the end.
it's obviously more than just an svt cobra.
different engine too.

True.. But even if he did. A 2000 Cobra with a supercharger could possibly hang with an EVO

Ok one of my friends has a 200 Ford Mustang SVT, it has a V8, Supercharger, and a six speed. He and one of the "rich kids" :disappoin from school are going to drag race out on this closed highway off of Highway 151. The rich kid has a Mitsubishi Evolution which I think is bone stock with a 5 speed (I think).

Well my friend with the Ford is kind of a gear head and has that car running perfect and he's also a hell of a driver, I just don't now if the Mustang can take the Evo :uhoh: . Despite the fack that it is a pretty straight highway (a few wide easy corners but it should favor the Mustang)

Thanks!

that's not a question.
it would more than hang with one.
the point is that in his first post, he put 200.
so is it an 00, or the 03/04 with the s/c?
ya know?

confusion.

so it was not the factory s/c'd cobra, it would destroy an evo if it has an aftermarket s/c on it.

Hey Yea, I got some pics to prove that the car does exist and I called him and found out that it is a 2000 Mustang, I found out that it is just a GT, guuss my friend is kinda full of shit. He has stripped the logos except the mustang logo on the grill, and replaced them with SVT AND A R logo on it. I'm sorry for the mix-up, as you can tell I do know some stuff about cars i just get confused like every one else.

YES I KNOW THESE PICTURES ARE FROM AUTOMOTIVE FORUM .COM BUT THESE ARE PICS OF MY FRIEND'S (George's) MUSTANG.

And yes I know that we live like 5 states apart he lives in WV and I likve in IA. He moved form here about a year ago. So that's how i know him.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/118321197693_2_full.jpg


http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/118321197693_2_full1.jpg

Even if it's a GT the car would run with an Evo with a Supercharger....

Well depends on the driver but I would bet on the Evo. I know, I'm biased! :)

wow even bigge difference, a gt with a supercharger, i don't know how much hp it adds to the wheels

Tea, I went on to my friend's website (he has a web site for his car?) :werd:

But Yea Like I'm Said, "Im sorry for the mix up, I was just going off of what he told me online, and had to get the real story out of him on the phone later. Like I said we live states aplart, but we visit eachothler like every month to two months.Vehicle Info

Make: Ford
Model: Mustang
Year: 2000
Car Setup: street
Sound System Setup: stock
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Bragging Rights
Est. Horsepower: 420
Weight: 3200

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Performance Modifications
Engine Components: Vortech
Exhaust: MAC Performance
Performance Chip: JMS Chip

Major Upgrades: supercharger
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Interior/Exterior Modifications
Pedals: APC

Oh yea could you guys stop calling me a " :loser: " now?

Anyone who says the evo is going to win is insane. First off, this is a cobra R. The R stands for racing! This car was meant to go up against the Corvette Z06 and other very fast cars. Stock the car runs mid-upper 12s. Add a supercharger and the car will easily be in the 11s. The evo is a thirteen second car and is not even close to the 2000 cobra R. The closest comparison from a mustang to the evo is the 2004 mustang mach 1.

Anyone who says the evo is going to win is insane. First off, this is a cobra R. The R stands for racing! This car was meant to go up against the Corvette Z06 and other very fast cars. Stock the car runs mid-upper 12s. Add a supercharger and the car will easily be in the 11s. The evo is a thirteen second car and is not even close to the 2000 cobra R. The closest comparison from a mustang to the evo is the 2004 mustang mach 1.


next time try reading the whole thread....



:evillol:

No kidding!!! :banghead:

Anyway, with 420 hp the mustang will still win.

Anyone who says the evo is going to win is insane. First off, this is a cobra R. The R stands for racing! This car was meant to go up against the Corvette Z06 and other very fast cars. Stock the car runs mid-upper 12s. Add a supercharger and the car will easily be in the 11s. The evo is a thirteen second car and is not even close to the 2000 cobra R. The closest comparison from a mustang to the evo is the 2004 mustang mach 1.
You know nothing about Evo's, do you? Do you know how simple it is to get them running 11 second quarter miles? This is especially true of the older Evo II's and III's, the gearing is perfect for drag racing. I read somewhere (I'm pretty sure an old issue of NZ Performance car) Of an Evo II RS running 11.45 second passes on some of the most basic mods known to man- kept the sublime handling as well.

Don't rubbish something that you don't know shit about, kid.

My whole point I'm trying to make is for the Evolution owner to go so some basic work (Wastegate, boost controller, clutch, pod filter, exhaust, chip) and then come back and race- it'd even things out and probably be cheaper to do than the mods on the Mustang.

next time try reading the whole thread....



:evillol:

my thoughts exactly.

hell, reading 2 posts up would be sufficient...

I'm sorry I'm not perfect like you flylwsi. I forgot that you've never made a mistake in your life!

shhhh settle down dont start a fight

I'm sorry I'm not perfect like you flylwsi. I forgot that you've never made a mistake in your life!


gee...
sorry, but it makes sense to read the WHOLE thread.

i make mistakes, just like everyone else.

but i DO read an entire thread before i put my .02 in...
at least then the mistake is in your knowledge, not in your reading.

sorry to be a smartass, but it's not like the statement about the car NOT being a cobra R was on another page. it was 2 posts up.

Funny that he talks about the Cobra R.This means that he read one post about the R and decided to throw in his 2 cents in like others on this thread.It's koo flywsi, you ain't a smart ass..........just someone that is more educated then this specific person.

I can be a little sensitive sometimes.

Flylwsi, I'm sorry for making a big deal out of it. Joebowlr21, I am pretty educated. I have a 4.0 GPA and will be named valedictorian of my senior class in high school next year. I just thought that you needed to know that you're not talking to a dumb ass.

I can be a little sensitive sometimes.
ok.......... :banghead:

EVO. the only chance the stang could win is if the driver knew how to launch and drive right. But i doubt he does, so my momey is on the evo.

I also hate stangs, but i didnt base my results on that.

EVO. the only chance the stang could win is if the driver knew how to launch and drive right. But i doubt he does, so my momey is on the evo.

I also hate stangs, but i didnt base my results on that.

Sure... J/K

the ponys going to get slaughtered. then used as glue on some 4th graders science project :biggrin: ........... i hate mustangs......

o god here we go again with another dumb newb

Well the EVO should win in a 1/4 mile drag, if they are going to race for a very long distance, the S/C on the stang is going to help with the top end. The stock EVO's usually trap between 100-105MPH and the S/C Mustangs usually trap 108-110 this is @ 2700ft above sea level. The guy in the Mustang has to get a launch, but he will have to still play catch up......

actually the supercharger helps more in low end torque. since its always at your foot, turbo charger helps more at higher rpms

actually the supercharger helps more in low end torque. since its always at your foot, turbo charger helps more at higher rpms

Very true, however the EVO runs pig rich @ high rpm (10:1) A/F, in stock form boost is reduced to 16lbs and timing is pulled (ECU Control) so it falls on it's face up top. With a good tune and MBC EVO's could pick up between 40-60HP @ AW. http://features.evolutionm.net/article/evomfeatures/38

ok i never said the evo wouldnt win tho bro, but it isnt stock. the stang with supercharger wil kill the evo and you dont have to give me a site to prove something i already know