how come...

how come people in V6 mustangs think they are hot shit.....

every time i pull up to a stoplight there is always some Ego tripped ford driver pulling up next to me revving on me... I usually laugh and let the guy peel out taking of so he can think he is cool... Even Mustang GT drivers dont have the common sense of driving like a sane human.. and those guys are usually older.

my last race against a mustang was a GT. this guy had his head up his ass so hard he wouldnt stop talking shit about how he could beat me starting off in 2nd and so on... so i tell him that a simple 10$ bet would shut his mouth we should do a little stoplight run. Imediatly he put his foot in his mouth and said why not make it 50$. so i laugh and say lets roll.

so we make it to a clear road at stoplight. I finally start revving my motor and he finally realized that i have a modded turbo. when the light dropped to red on the other side he imediatly dumped the clutch and got a jump on me... so the i proceed to do my AWD launch after him. Even with this guy getting the jump on me I was already ahead of him by the 60ft mark(in drapstrip terms). as I was pulling on my 3rd car distance away from him the little bastard jabbed the break and took off down some side street.

the point of this rant is where do morons get off talking shit about someones car and they cant even hold up to a little 50$ bet after they lose.. gotta love the Ego's of sports car drivers :D

im done jabberin now. i had to get that out :p

hate people like that. what are your mods? sounds like your car is pretty impressive. i really dont see the v6 guys acting all bad and such, and if i do its because they are 16.

Good job man :bigthumb:

I've seen psycho mustang gt owners and z28 owners swerving in and out of rush hour traffic in the pouring rain. That makes me nervous.

oh god the V6 stangs, i saw so many of them today. Usually a young kid thinking hes the shit. His music is blasing, hes leaning way to far back in the seat, one hand on the wheel, head cocked slightly to the side. . .ugh its funny that my cavy beats the majority of them. But they are EVERYWHERE in michigan cause everyone works for ford motor company so they all get good deals on the mustangs. If you ever want a cheap mustang come to dearborn or Detroit area of Michigan, you will find tons.
but that is pretty shaddy that he talks all that smack and then gets his ass handed to him so he runs away. I would have tried to chase after his ass just to give him a scare.

You should've given chase!! Your modded TSi woulda been able to keep up with a mustang on the corners...if woulda been funny as hell too.

J/K, Nice kill, and not all mustang owners are jackasses, just most of them... :p


Even Fatninja was on an Ego trip when he had his 5.0, he's just too cool for us now he's got an M3.... :cwm27:

I'm sure that most people including myself dont have a what did u say....."ego trip" just because they drive a car called a Mustang...... i lean back in my seat just because its relaxing..not too much to be ghetto but i'm not straight up either...

I drive with one hand.....so what?........i have a manual tranny......which means i'm going to drive with one hand if i ever wanna change gears.

"Gotta love the ego's of sports car drivers".....so what do u drive a family sedan?

I listen to music. That's the reason my car has a cd player and speakers. So what's wrong with "blasting music" hell i love loud music. If i'm at a gas station or something i wont blare it because that's rude, but going down the road i doubt the 95 years old half blind women next to me is not going to hear it.

Maybe some of you need to come down to were i live and actually see the mustang drivers down here.....their all cool as shit. I do see plenty of what your talking about everywhere though. I'm just trying to prove a couple points here a) just because someone doesnt drive like a 125 year old deaf, blind in one eye and cant see out tha other, wrinkled old man, doesnt mean they think there "the shit". b) all mustang owners are not dicks and finally c)if you buy a all-wheel drive turbocharged car obviously you didnt buy it for the gas mileage and room for your kids......so why are you so uptight about racing people that wanna race? Especially "ego triped ford drivers"?

i race people at the drag strip, ya know... that place wehre you dont have to run from the cops :D

i bought my car to mod it and race it to make me some money, not to have some hotshot in a overpopulated car stir up shit with me because im in a "4 banger".

oh yea, my mods...

K&N Air filter,Greddy turbo timer,Greddy IC pipes (all),Greddy Type "S" bov,Walboro 255lph fuel pump,NGK plugs and wires,Apexi 2 3/4" downpipe (no cat), Apexi N1 cat back, Alamo Autosports shift kit,Greddy Timing belt,Greddy balance shaft belt,unorthodox underdrive pullies,1G throttle body,Greddy profec B-spec 2, 60 MM boost gauge, Greddy remote switching system,Home made IC water spray syestem, and my big boy 16g turbo :smokin:

and of course,... all the DSM free mods :p

oh yea, my mods...

K&N Air filter,Greddy turbo timer,Greddy IC pipes (all),Greddy Type "S" bov,Walboro 255lph fuel pump,NGK plugs and wires,Apexi 2 3/4" downpipe (no cat), Apexi N1 cat back, Alamo Autosports shift kit,Greddy Timing belt,Greddy balance shaft belt,unorthodox underdrive pullies,1G throttle body,Greddy profec B-spec 2, 60 MM boost gauge, Greddy remote switching system,Home made IC water spray syestem, and my big boy 16g turbo :smokin:

and of course,... all the DSM free mods :p

That's potentially a low 12-second car, with the right tune...

nice mods, funny you have almost the same name as 97tsi.

wow nice mods ny plans for a bigger turbo,new mainflod and external wastegate.. maybe a big 20g and some 650cc injectors.. hehe

That's potentially a low 12-second car, with the right tune...

i suck with the logger so im not that well tuned. :D

my best time since ive gotten the modds was a 12.9 with a 60ft of 1.5 with RF. and not to be concieted here but i think that pretty damn good for an automatic that ran a 15 flat when it was stock

funny you have almost the same name as 97tsi.

heh, didnt mean to rip someones name by 1 number. on another forum i use this username so i came to this one using it too

c)if you buy a all-wheel drive turbocharged car obviously you didnt buy it for the gas mileage and room for your kids......so why are you so uptight about racing people that wanna race? Especially "ego triped ford drivers"?

awd turbo-charged cars:
Subaru Outback
Lancer Evo
Subaru WRX
Subaru Legacy
Audi S4

Obviously people are buying all those to race, huh? Those 4 doors and roomy back seats aren't really there for anything, right?

drive with one hand.....so what?........i have a manual tranny......which means i'm going to drive with one hand if i ever wanna change gears.

Unless you have a 17spd manual transmission, then I dont see why you keep your hand on the gear shifter at all times.

I dont believe 96TSi said anything about 90Stangjc being an absolute cockwhore and always wanting to race and leaning back in his car like he's ghetto. Nor did he say all Mustang drivers were like that.

I've met one or two cool ones, the rest are, generally, uptight about their shit and need to be beat in the head once or twice. You get all defensive when someone mentions someone who drives a car with the same name as yours. That's fuckin lame.

thats right Mediocrity, i didnt say ALL mustang drivers are egotistic a-holes. forgot to add that in my post :D

wow nice mods ny plans for a bigger turbo,new mainflod and external wastegate.. maybe a big 20g and some 650cc injectors.. hehe

i already dumped money down on the big 16g. if i knew i would make it this far with my car, i would have went ahead for the 20g or T3/T4


already upped the manifold when i got the 16G, never saw the point in getting an external wastegate, already got Aftermarket parts for those "high boost" situations :p

and i would like to keep my car somewhat legal so ill stay away from those 18wheeler injectors :D :D :D

96TSi, nice work there on the car.
i am a mustang (well, Cobra) owner, and i did not take any offense from his post.
i still dont know why 90stangjc was being so defensive. its not like it was you or someone you know.

for the most part i usually find that mustang owners are all about image. They want to look like the coolest thing on the road. But to be honest there are so many mustangs on the road its for of a "me too" car. You know someone says what kind of car you drive, you say mustang and they say me too!
Like theirs a stupid kid down the block from me, he bought a 2001 Mustang V6, then he spent 2 months tearing it apart and putting on all kinds of cobra parts. Cobra wheels, brakes, seats, exhaust, steering wheel, dash, and bumper. I was like why the fuck are you doing this? and he never really has an answer. His best buddy also drives a v6 mustang thats rebagged as a GT. When ever he drives past my house he revs the engine like hes a badass. Makes me wanna take a drill to his exhaust and fill it with holes. But as soon as i get my SC, gonna take them both to the track and beat the shit out of them in my 4 banger auto.

In my area, most Mustangs are chick cars. I actually did a math project on it once. We counted 100 Mustangs, and of those 100, I think the final number was something like 62% were V6s. Of that 62%, 98% were being driven by a female who looked under the age of 25, and of that 98%, 100% had a second female passenger...I'll dig up the project and get the numbers out.

its not like it was you or someone you know.


heh, ya never know, it might have been him :D

seriously tho, people in most domestic sports cars automaticly think they are the shit (i know, i used to have one :D). I have nothing against mustangs or their owners just because of the car... I have things against egotistic a-holes.. and that includes the little 4 bangers who think just because they have a spoiler thats bigger than most jumbo jets', they are fast.

there is nothing wrong with taking pride in your vehicle, just dont get too concieted on what you have... save the world some misery because i dont wanna hear about some stock (example) honda civic for 3 hours just because there is a muffler the size of one from an 18wheeler on it.

ok done ranting this round... tag your it :p

96tsi your a cool guy, welcome to the boards

Quick question. Why do I always see tuners raming their engine with air? I hardly ever see someone that has actually done some engine work. Why is that?

Quick question, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Quick reply.. :owned: :icon16:

Quick question, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Quick question, what the fuck does asshole mustang owners have to do with street racing?

The fact that his story was about a street race and one particular driver's poor behavior.

I don't know why you're taking this so personally. He's not talking about you, nor is he talking about all mustang owners, just a large percentage of them. Cool off, don't take it so personally. He's not talking about you specifically.

Quick question, what the fuck does asshole mustang owners have to do with street racing?

The fact that your defensive ass got all uppity because someone mentioned a few bad seeds among the mustang driving community. Obviously you're one of them or you would'nt have been so quick on the gun, buddy.

hah, i couldnt have said it better myself

Man i'm always late to these fights......but ne wayz....

It is tru that "most" mustang owners are jerks an redneck an wut not.....So it is suspicious when someone jumps to their rescue like someone is talking specifically about them. :screwy:

Come on now 90stang, all the mustang owners that are regulars here are cool as fuk.Try to be liked here, i really don't want to see yet another person banned for getting into stupid fights about this shyt.

Oh by the way, I was wondering if a mod could count up for us how many people have been banned recently, cuz i'm going through the boards an shyt man, looks like plenty of regulars are getting banned to.Layla, can you help us out with some info on it?

Aiight yall, i do apoligize. It just gets me that lately people have been talking shit about mustang owners (not saying that u were) and i admit i jumped the gun. And nah, i'm not the kind of person who thinks their the shit just because i drive a type of car. Hell i've been destroyed by my share of cars before (see sig). Anyday, sorry about going off just got a little flustrated, thought you were tryin to flame 'stang owners. Peace. :)

Quick question. Why do I always see tuners raming their engine with air? I hardly ever see someone that has actually done some engine work. Why is that?

I think it's just simply too expensive to do serious engine work... and possibly too time consuming for amateurs. A lot of people are into imports... that's just the name of the game now, and usually for younger people it's their only car. Therefore taking the car to someone who knows what they're doing will not only cost money but take away their mode of transportation.

Plus bolting stuff on or adding a k&n filter on to a car doesn't take much skill, time or money. Therefore it's a amateur friendly thing to do.

I'm just lucky enough to have another car to putt around in while I take my car apart. But I sure as shit didn't start out by taking the engine apart, I'll admit that much.

for the most part i usually find that mustang owners are all about image. They want to look like the coolest thing on the road.

Haha....no shit man! I work with this 18yr old kid who just bought a 2002 V6 Mustang. We ended up talking about eachothers cars. I went on saying that base model V6 mustang is way over rated and how people who pay so much for those cars are idiots. He obviously got mad at me and started talking shit, saying my car is ugly and calling it an erector set. He then went on to laugh because, according to him, "getting 210hp, stock, out of a turbocharger is horrible."

I hate to say it, but I'm gonna have to agree with everybody here, the majority of mustang owners are in it for the name "mustang" and the look. MOST of them are dicks and think they're the shit because they own one. :2cents:

And to keep from restarting the flaming, I just want to point out that I said MOST mustange owners.

Haha....no shit man! I work with this 18yr old kid who just bought a 2002 V6 Mustang. We ended up talking about eachothers cars. I went on saying that base model V6 mustang is way over rated and how people who pay so much for those cars are idiots. He obviously got mad at me and started talking shit, saying my car is ugly and calling it an erector set. He then went on to laugh because, according to him, "getting 210hp, stock, out of a turbocharger is horrible."

I hate to say it, but I'm gonna have to agree with everybody here, the majority of mustang owners are in it for the name "mustang" and the look. MOST of them are dicks and think they're the shit because they own one. :2cents:

And to keep from restarting the flaming, I just want to point out that I said MOST mustange owners.Haha, I know man! Next thing you know every one in a talon will think they have a fast car! :loser: 65fstbk, thanks for answering my question.

still i really hate the kid down the street from me that has covered his V6 mustang with all the cobra parts he can think. He even has a cobra bumper on it!! Cobra wheels, cobra seats, cobra dash, cobra steering wheel, cobra ehaust, every he is putting cobra on it. Why the hell would he do that? doesnt he realize people are gonna want to race him and when he does hes gonna get his ass handed to him? err i just wanna smack the shit outa him for being so stupid and gay.

Why dont i put a Z28 badge on my cavalier? or how about a porshe badge? ohh i know ill make my own brand and call it Z88. Then ill cover it with stickers and more badges and ill get like 200 WHP!! IM OFF TO BUY STICKERS, LATER SUCKERS!

I drive a mustang, but it's a cobra, and it's much different. I hate 6cyl. mustangs and personally think they should be givin a different name. I agree that they are cocky because I have had a few try to race me until they hear my blower. They just don't realize things and think they are cool by trying to race and burnout in a mustang. At least get a v-8 people.

still i really hate the kid down the street from me that has covered his V6 mustang with all the cobra parts he can think. He even has a cobra bumper on it!! Cobra wheels, cobra seats, cobra dash, cobra steering wheel, cobra ehaust, every he is putting cobra on it. Why the hell would he do that? doesnt he realize people are gonna want to race him and when he does hes gonna get his ass handed to him? err i just wanna smack the shit outa him for being so stupid and gay.

Why dont i put a Z28 badge on my cavalier? or how about a porshe badge? ohh i know ill make my own brand and call it Z88. Then ill cover it with stickers and more badges and ill get like 200 WHP!! IM OFF TO BUY STICKERS, LATER SUCKERS!

Cobra exhaust? You shouldn't go over the edge with things. Plus how does cobra exhaust work on an engine with 2 less cyl. Do they just hang the extra part of the headers off the engine?

Haha, I know man! Next thing you know every one in a talon will think they have a fast car! :loser: 65fstbk, thanks for answering my question.

Hey, I didn't say my car was fast, did I? I know it's not a corvette or anything. There's no need for you to imply anything here, i was just commmenting on my experience, and I made sure to mention afterwards that MOST mustang owners fall under the type of driver most people here are discussing.

Hey, I didn't say my car was fast, did I? I know it's not a corvette or anything. There's no need for you to imply anything here, i was just commmenting on my experience, and I made sure to mention afterwards that MOST mustang owners fall under the type of driver most people here are discussing.
I just think its great you can talk down on a mustang, yet you own a talon! Hey are you from texas? if so where from?

Here's how i think it is. I think the people that are dicks automatically go out and buy a mustang just because they think ALL of them are quick. I really dont think owning a mustang makes you a penis wrinkle, its just if you already are a penis wrinkle then you car of choice would be a inexpensive, slow, sporty looking car that you can brag to all your other penis wrinkled friends about who also are like that. Anybody share this opinion?

HEHEHHe........he said penis wrinkle..... :icon16:

I just think its great you can talk down on a mustang, yet you own a talon! Hey are you from texas? if so where from?

Jon Shepherd owns a Talon and can talk down on Mustangs. Says 8.87 timeslips.

I just think its great you can talk down on a mustang, yet you own a talon! Hey are you from texas? if so where from?

I wasn't talking down to mustangs. I have 2 friends who own very quick mustangs. But in my opinion, the base model v6's are overrated. I'm sure many people would agree with me. If you feel differently then that's your opinion, no need to talk shit. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding, I was in no way trying to talk down to mustangs.

And what's wrong with owning a talon, as mediocracy said: Jon Shepherd owns a Talon that posts 8.87 timeslips.

And no, i'm not from TX. I'm from WA

Haha....no shit man! I work with this 18yr old kid who just bought a 2002 V6 Mustang. We ended up talking about eachothers cars. I went on saying that base model V6 mustang is way over rated and how people who pay so much for those cars are idiots. .Then what would you call this. You told a guy he was an idiot for buying a v6 mustang! Where is this 8.87 talon that you speak of?

Alright... enough with the generalizations.

8 second Talons don't represent all Talons
Assholes who drive Mustangs don't represent every Mustang owner
Snotty women who are hot don't represent... er nevermind... :icon16:

I know i'm cutting into something here, but:

I personally like the V6 Mustang. It handles like a GT, i think it's more practical then a Sunfire GT and it's easier on gas. Plus it has the look and the name to it.

That's specifically why most of my customers that bought the V6 bought it.

Just my :2cents: , you can carry on now. :smile:

PS: more fuel efficient then the V8 is what i meant ^

Alright... enough with the generalizations.

8 second Talons don't represent all Talons
Assholes who drive Mustangs don't represent every Mustang owner
Snotty women who are hot don't represent... er nevermind... :icon16:

Look, erricer, he's right, enough with the generalizations. I completely understand where you thought I was talking down to mustangs, because after I read what you pasted back it sounds like it. But that isn't what I was attempting to do. Sorry if I came off the wrong way. I guess I should have just worded it differently....my bad.

oh and about snotty women who are hot...lol

Here are some DSM videos. If you own a domestic I dont recommend looking at the dsm vs domestic vids unless your mature enough to know that yes a vs can loose to a 4 cyl. Other than that, near the bottom are some 8 sec dsm runs. Most the others are just some plain ol awd ass whoopins. http://www.its-over.net/videos.htm

Here are some DSM videos. If you own a domestic I dont recommend looking at the dsm vs domestic vids unless your mature enough to know that yes a vs can loose to a 4 cyl. Other than that, near the bottom are some 8 sec dsm runs. Most the others are just some plain ol awd ass whoopins. http://www.its-over.net/videos.htmI saw one Talon run a 8.80, from what the video said it was the only 8 sec talon. And that was no street legal talon! It was practically a funny car! I know I can loose against a 4 banger! But only about 5% of them!

um did you not read the BANNER??? 3 dimonds are better than 5 lieters. Nough said. Oh and no the buscler racing dsm is NOT the only 8 sec talon. J shepard is in the mid 8's on a dsm he DRIVES to the track. WWW.DSMTALK.COM its under dsm pick select the vid links. and check out when it goes DSM vs T/A. The T/A team DIDNT EVEN PAY UP. But I cant say that some imports havent lost and not paid up. But when its caught on video, its PROFF, 1 up for the RICERS

As much as people hate V6 Mustangs I have to give you a fair warning. That engine reacts abnormally well to boost. I believe 300 whp is easily had on stock internals and a centrifugal blower. I read about it somewhere online. Anyways some guys modify those V6 stangs fairly well, but they are few and far between. Most of them just add an exhaust system, cold air intake, and gears and think they are the shiznit. Don't think all of them are a joke though.

um did you not read the BANNER??? 3 dimonds are better than 5 lieters. Nough said. Oh and no the buscler racing dsm is NOT the only 8 sec talon. J shepard is in the mid 8's on a dsm he DRIVES to the track. WWW.DSMTALK.COM its under dsm pick select the vid links. and check out when it goes DSM vs T/A. The T/A team DIDNT EVEN PAY UP. But I cant say that some imports havent lost and not paid up. But when its caught on video, its PROFF, 1 up for the RICERS

:1:

As much as people hate V6 Mustangs I have to give you a fair warning. That engine reacts abnormally well to boost. I believe 300 whp is easily had on stock internals and a centrifugal blower. I read about it somewhere online. Anyways some guys modify those V6 stangs fairly well, but they are few and far between. Most of them just add an exhaust system, cold air intake, and gears and think they are the shiznit. Don't think all of them are a joke though.

:1: I read that somewhere myself actually...don't remember about the 300whp, but i've read that NOS and that engine basically stock are a very good combination.

From what I've noticed, Ford tends to overbuild their newer Mustang motors quite a bit. They don't put out much much HP stock, but without too much trouble, they can be made into powerhouses. Just look at the cobra motor... stock, it gets what, 390 crank(its actually more, I have seen them dyno 380 at the wheels, and no way the drivetrain only sucks 10hp), but the stock block and internals can take upwards of 800hp. Slap a big turbo, good intake, and some heads on a cobra shortblock and you're well north of 600hp. Obviously the v6s dont have this kind of ability, but still.. they're nothing to be scoffed at for a 6cyl. Mustangs are somewhat heavy though, so a 300hp v6 still isn't a god of a car.
check out this dyno page:
http://www.bristoldyno.com/info/database.htm
another nice dyno pull on that site, look at the dodge ram 2500 diesel... look at the torque. 892ft/lbs... god DAMN.
There is a stock 2003 cobra on there, 380hp.. then one with a chip, intake, exhaust, and underdrive pullies, 450hp/473tq. I think thats pretty damn good, imagine if he put new cams in it.
And by the way, I'm a mustang owner, a young one too(I'm 19). I'm hardly cocky about my car. Right now its a piece of shit since its in a million pieces and hasn't run in ages(too many projects...), I know it is crap at the moment and don't have any reservations about admitting it. I don't know many cocky v6 mustangs around here, most of the mustang owners I know drive heavily modified 80s-90s 5.0s or newer modded GTs, and are generally nice guys, although they are harsh on the imports.. I respect people who mod imports and do a good job of it, its just not my cup of tea. I'd rather have the v8 and RWD to start with and mod that. Guys who can get 250 or 300hp to the ground in their honda/mitsu/whatever is impressive, and I give them props. But I'll take my mustang anyday. A big v8, that lovely rumble, and body styling to kill! Soon to have twin turbos :)
http://www.turboslut.net/stang.jpg
I'm sorry, but I think that is one of the most beautiful and badass cars of all time. Call me cocky, but just look at it...

why have a mustang cobra with 450 hp to the rear wheels weighing 3000+ lbs costing $15k+ when you can have a 500 hp AWD dsm for 6k weighing 2500lbs. Yeah Ill take a AWD 4 cyl, 500 hp, turbo spoolin, winning races from the first chirp of tires import anyday.

It will cost much more than six grand to get a DSM with 500 HP. And the mustang, as he said, can handle well over 450 HP. And I doubt a 500 HP DSM would make a very good street car anyways, much less street legal.

:werd:

It will cost much more than six grand to get a DSM with 500 HP. And the mustang, as he said, can handle well over 450 HP. And I doubt a 500 HP DSM would make a very good street car anyways, much less street legal.


Err you think so. well darn. You showed me didnt you. I just need to look no further than where I work. the mechanic there is parting out his 1g gsx thats over 500 hp that he drove EVERYDAY( he got sideswiped by a drunk driver). Let alone already hooked up a 95 talon tsi somwwhere in the low 11's. I hate to say it, but its not that expensive to slap on a t3/t04 turbo that BOLTS RIGHT ON and add fuel controlto a dsm to get over 400hp. actually the 1g dsms can get 500hp before needing to upgrade ANY internalls. Hell on saturday night I see the cobra or mustang drivers asking everyone to race, hondas,acuras,subs,evos, without even asking about mods etc etc, but when it comes to a DSM saying, YEAH ILL RACE, the driver takes one good look at the front mount then IMMEDIATLY askes, well err umm...what do you have done?

Are you saying you could buy and mod an eclipse to reliably get 500hp to the wheels for 6 grand? I mean, I only found 1 turbo eclipse under $6k buy-it-now on ebay, and that was $5900. And I found none on cars.com within a 100 miles of me. I'm not saying they can't be found for cheap, and surely cheaper than a mustang cobra, but just the upgrades would cost 6 grand. I mean, new turbo, $1200, you'd probably want a new/better exhaust manifold, $600 if you get it cheap, new injectors $500?, new fuel management $500, you'd probably need a new intercooler, $400, boost controller $300... what about new internals for the engine? new intake? cams? new/bigger wastegate? can the trans handle 500hp? Surely a new clutch to handle the power. transfer case? axles? driveshafts? do you need new tires to handle the power? Which probably means you need new and wider rims... It adds up. I'm particularly skeptical about the motor's internals and drivetrain being able to hold up to that power. A turbo eclipse puts out what, 210hp stock? I doubt you can more than double its power without some serious mods to the drivetrain. I don't mean to start a flame war, but I think its total BS that you can start from scratch with 6 grand in your pocket and build a reliable daily driver 500hp mitsubishi eclipse. Sorry. Just not buyin it. I respect mitsus and think they're one of the best imports, I seriously considered buying one before I got my car. I'm not saying you can do that with a cobra or anything, but I'm just sayin.. in a few years, when the price of a 2001 cobra is down to like 9-11grand, and you spend another grand putting an intake, chip, and exhaust on it to get 450hp to the ground, thats gonna be hard to beat. Plus you have an awesome 6 speed tranny that'll easily take it, a very stout rear end with a huge aftermarket, and a block thats ready for 400hp more if you ever need it. For around $2500 you can upgrade the T-56 tranny to take 900hp. It shouldn't be too hard or expensive to get the rear to take that much.. new moser axle shafts are around $300 for a pair, a new driveshaft is $400, new race gears $225, and a spool $170. With a turbo, you can have a near-1000hp daily driver... lets say $2500 for the whole turbo setup if you put it together yourself.. That comes to 16 grand for a 800hp turbocharged Mustang. Throw on a good set of rims and tires on the back(although the stocks are already like 9" wide..) for another $800 and you're good to go.
Right now for my car I'm at around the $10,000 mark(including the car), and that includes a lot of interior stuff, guages, etc, and I'm gettin close to completion. I'm hopin to be around 12 grand for the entire car, 13 including paint, and should be around 600-650hp and equivalent torque to the wheels. I saved a lot of money by fabricating a lot of my own stuff and doing all the work myself.
Again, I'm not raggin on mitsus, I just find it hard to believe the $6000 500hp eclipse.

yoooooo one just caught me off guard at a light... he acted like he wasnt gonna do anything and then just took off...!!!!!!!!! they get on my nerves!!!!!!