Ford Software
augustorm
06-14-2004, 11:32 PM
Every now and then when I go to one of the local tracks, I see owners (just a few serious ones) of Gm and various imports tuning their rides with a laptop....However, I have never seen Ford (Particularly Mustang) owners with the setup. I'm wondering if software exists for Ford models and in fact have had conflicting stories from both Ford and students from a local technical institute....The dealerships say they don't know what I'm talking about...and the students say it IS available but only sold to certified technicians....Anyone know if tuning software is available for my '03 stang because I would really like to learn more about it and start using it.
Thanks
Thanks
Integra06
06-14-2004, 11:49 PM
Every now and then when I go to one of the local tracks, I see owners (just a few serious ones) of Gm and various imports tuning their rides with a laptop....However, I have never seen Ford (Particularly Mustang) owners with the setup. I'm wondering if software exists for Ford models and in fact have had conflicting stories from both Ford and students from a local technical institute....The dealerships say they don't know what I'm talking about...and the students say it IS available but only sold to certified technicians....Anyone know if tuning software is available for my '03 stang because I would really like to learn more about it and start using it.
Thanks
Probably just a data logging program, but I've never heard of it before. Next time you're at the track and see a person with it, don't be afraid to ask them about it.
Thanks
Probably just a data logging program, but I've never heard of it before. Next time you're at the track and see a person with it, don't be afraid to ask them about it.
augustorm
06-15-2004, 12:06 AM
Probably just a data logging program, but I've never heard of it before. Next time you're at the track and see a person with it, don't be afraid to ask them about it.
Well actually I have asked....but not being ford owners they are not sure if similar software is available....and the software they use does quite a bit...just to name a few....advances or retards timing, adjust f/a mix, shift points for autos, calibrates gearing....etc. It just connects from the laptop into a terminal in the car and I am assuming reflashes the onboard computer. If i remember correctly, one guy told me it was an obdi terminal...he said there were two generations of the terminals....and he was sure that mine had the second generation as do all cars after a certain year.
And thanks for your input
Well actually I have asked....but not being ford owners they are not sure if similar software is available....and the software they use does quite a bit...just to name a few....advances or retards timing, adjust f/a mix, shift points for autos, calibrates gearing....etc. It just connects from the laptop into a terminal in the car and I am assuming reflashes the onboard computer. If i remember correctly, one guy told me it was an obdi terminal...he said there were two generations of the terminals....and he was sure that mine had the second generation as do all cars after a certain year.
And thanks for your input
Integra06
06-15-2004, 12:10 AM
Well actually I have asked....but not being ford owners they are not sure if similar software is available....and the software they use does quite a bit...just to name a few....advances or retards timing, adjust f/a mix, shift points for autos, calibrates gearing....etc. It just connects from the laptop into a terminal in the car and I am assuming reflashes the onboard computer. If i remember correctly, one guy told me it was an obdi terminal...he said there were two generations of the terminals....and he was sure that mine had the second generation as do all cars after a certain year.
And thanks for your input
Like I said, I don't know much about it, but glad to help. You might try contacting the company that makes it just to see if it would work for a Ford. If it won't work for a Ford, I'm sure they could always tell you where to find software that would work.
And thanks for your input
Like I said, I don't know much about it, but glad to help. You might try contacting the company that makes it just to see if it would work for a Ford. If it won't work for a Ford, I'm sure they could always tell you where to find software that would work.
landyacht
06-15-2004, 06:11 PM
There ought to be something out there...where have you tried looking?
GTStang
06-15-2004, 07:05 PM
There are plenty of things made for Mustangs that do what you are talking about and they have been out since the EFI 5.0 days.
LjasonL
06-15-2004, 09:41 PM
I don't know if it's the same thing that you're talking about, but a stand alone ECU would do all that, and they're pretty much universal if you can do some wiring
augustorm
06-15-2004, 11:06 PM
There ought to be something out there...where have you tried looking?
Well, I've approached some of the peeps I've seen using laptops at particular tracks that I race, and I have even tried some ford dealerships....the dealerships tell me there is no such software and that their onboard computers cannot be directly manipulated...dunno if that is true because a couple of students at a local technical institute tell me that there is software however it is only sold to certified techs. Right now I have the Diablo sport chip installed...and they wont sell me a writer because they don't sell them to individuals...they only supply their dealers with them...and Diablo tells me that the chips can only be reflashed a certain amount of times anyway. Right now I don't really need one....I'm running a 100 shot wet system from NX....but I plan on installing a Procharger from ATI and with their 11 lb. pulley (the one I want) I will need to tweak the computer a bit. ATI swears the 7 lb. pulley is just a "Install and go" system....but who wants small when the engine will handle BIG lol.
Integra06 had some good advise earlier...and when i go back to the track and see these guys using their shit, I should just ask who the maker is and contact them directly to see if they know anything....
just seems that some of you peeps are knowledgeable and since I stumbled onto this forum during a search....I thought I might as well use the resource.
Thanks for your response any and all help is appreciated.
Well, I've approached some of the peeps I've seen using laptops at particular tracks that I race, and I have even tried some ford dealerships....the dealerships tell me there is no such software and that their onboard computers cannot be directly manipulated...dunno if that is true because a couple of students at a local technical institute tell me that there is software however it is only sold to certified techs. Right now I have the Diablo sport chip installed...and they wont sell me a writer because they don't sell them to individuals...they only supply their dealers with them...and Diablo tells me that the chips can only be reflashed a certain amount of times anyway. Right now I don't really need one....I'm running a 100 shot wet system from NX....but I plan on installing a Procharger from ATI and with their 11 lb. pulley (the one I want) I will need to tweak the computer a bit. ATI swears the 7 lb. pulley is just a "Install and go" system....but who wants small when the engine will handle BIG lol.
Integra06 had some good advise earlier...and when i go back to the track and see these guys using their shit, I should just ask who the maker is and contact them directly to see if they know anything....
just seems that some of you peeps are knowledgeable and since I stumbled onto this forum during a search....I thought I might as well use the resource.
Thanks for your response any and all help is appreciated.
augustorm
06-15-2004, 11:14 PM
I don't know if it's the same thing that you're talking about, but a stand alone ECU would do all that, and they're pretty much universal if you can do some wiring
Well I have been told that the ECU from the factory cannot be written to....If you are suggesting replacing mine with an aftermarket ECU, well I'm game....can you do it (lol) because wires and me do not get along...I can use a computer....I know basic principles of mechanics...and I can drive.....Electrical....F---that =)
Well I have been told that the ECU from the factory cannot be written to....If you are suggesting replacing mine with an aftermarket ECU, well I'm game....can you do it (lol) because wires and me do not get along...I can use a computer....I know basic principles of mechanics...and I can drive.....Electrical....F---that =)
LjasonL
06-16-2004, 01:17 AM
Well I have been told that the ECU from the factory cannot be written to....If you are suggesting replacing mine with an aftermarket ECU, well I'm game....can you do it (lol) because wires and me do not get along...I can use a computer....I know basic principles of mechanics...and I can drive.....Electrical....F---that =)
You should be able to find a shop that will tackle it. They're not cheap, but they give you far more control than some added on to factory mess.
You should be able to find a shop that will tackle it. They're not cheap, but they give you far more control than some added on to factory mess.
GTStang
06-16-2004, 01:17 AM
I own a 2003 Mustang I want info about Ford/Mustang stuff yet I post here in street Racing Forum. Strike 1
Diablo, Autologic, Superchips can all make chips that alter the computer's functions. But yet you insist on people at a Ford Dealership who tell you the exact opposite... LoL Strike 2!
There are plenty of things made for Mustangs that do what you are talking about and they have been out since the EFI 5.0 days.
His name is GTStang he writes this fun little snippet of info but yet I do not inquire further..... Strike 3.... Your outta there!!!!!!
Diablo, Autologic, Superchips can all make chips that alter the computer's functions. But yet you insist on people at a Ford Dealership who tell you the exact opposite... LoL Strike 2!
There are plenty of things made for Mustangs that do what you are talking about and they have been out since the EFI 5.0 days.
His name is GTStang he writes this fun little snippet of info but yet I do not inquire further..... Strike 3.... Your outta there!!!!!!
96TSi
06-16-2004, 01:31 AM
you can get programmers for your car thru many websites and or performance shops.
maybe they are just curving some simple aspects of their cars
maybe they are just curving some simple aspects of their cars
augustorm
06-16-2004, 01:54 AM
I own a 2003 Mustang I want info about Ford/Mustang stuff yet I post here in street Racing Forum. Strike 1
Diablo, Autologic, Superchips can all make chips that alter the computer's functions. But yet you insist on people at a Ford Dealership who tell you the exact opposite... LoL Strike 2!
His name is GTStang he writes this fun little snippet of info but yet I do not inquire further..... Strike 3.... Your outta there!!!!!!
Ok...
1. It has been my experience that street racers are quite serious about their rides and very knowledgeable....that is why I post here among other places. If i may only post recent races i have witnessed or been apart of....then my bad and you're right "strike 1"
but not everyone here is following your strict protocol.
2. I do run a Diablo Delta Sport at present and it is the only chip i can run with the bottle....because i can retard my timing on the fly (at least the only one I have found) when i want to use the nitrous. And Diablo has told me personally that it can only be reflashed a few times before a new chip is needed. I want to stay away from having to buy new chips continuously. In addition...I was pointed to Ford by a couple of students that are studying to be mechanics or "Technicians" as they are now called. So that "Strike" is negated heh.
3. And lastly....I made the terrible mistake in assuming that if you knew anything other than that are several products out there since the efi 5.0 days that you would offer up some specifics...but you did not. If anything that would be a "strike" against you.
And btw....I truly hope that your LS1 info is regarding stock vehicles against stock vehicles....in that instance, I would tend to agree with you....otherwise....you would be incorrect.....then again almost anything that has been modified could beat any stock ride...if modified correctly right?
Actually I like the LS1....and I like GT's.....funny thing is....I'm always looking at them (when they are stock) from my rear view mirror lol.
Peace.
Diablo, Autologic, Superchips can all make chips that alter the computer's functions. But yet you insist on people at a Ford Dealership who tell you the exact opposite... LoL Strike 2!
His name is GTStang he writes this fun little snippet of info but yet I do not inquire further..... Strike 3.... Your outta there!!!!!!
Ok...
1. It has been my experience that street racers are quite serious about their rides and very knowledgeable....that is why I post here among other places. If i may only post recent races i have witnessed or been apart of....then my bad and you're right "strike 1"
but not everyone here is following your strict protocol.
2. I do run a Diablo Delta Sport at present and it is the only chip i can run with the bottle....because i can retard my timing on the fly (at least the only one I have found) when i want to use the nitrous. And Diablo has told me personally that it can only be reflashed a few times before a new chip is needed. I want to stay away from having to buy new chips continuously. In addition...I was pointed to Ford by a couple of students that are studying to be mechanics or "Technicians" as they are now called. So that "Strike" is negated heh.
3. And lastly....I made the terrible mistake in assuming that if you knew anything other than that are several products out there since the efi 5.0 days that you would offer up some specifics...but you did not. If anything that would be a "strike" against you.
And btw....I truly hope that your LS1 info is regarding stock vehicles against stock vehicles....in that instance, I would tend to agree with you....otherwise....you would be incorrect.....then again almost anything that has been modified could beat any stock ride...if modified correctly right?
Actually I like the LS1....and I like GT's.....funny thing is....I'm always looking at them (when they are stock) from my rear view mirror lol.
Peace.
augustorm
06-16-2004, 02:07 AM
You should be able to find a shop that will tackle it. They're not cheap, but they give you far more control than some added on to factory mess.
Cool...now all I need are some names of companys making these products. Thanks for the input....the shop that does all my work hasn't offered-up any aftermarket ecu ideas....then again I havent asked...they only agree that the factory ecu cannot be written to ergo the chip....even diablo says that.....and they havent mentioned other companies (possibly because they want to sell me more chips lol)....only that their predator will only write to GM and I believe possibly dodge...I may be incorrect with the dodge.
Thanks alot! the search continues.
Cool...now all I need are some names of companys making these products. Thanks for the input....the shop that does all my work hasn't offered-up any aftermarket ecu ideas....then again I havent asked...they only agree that the factory ecu cannot be written to ergo the chip....even diablo says that.....and they havent mentioned other companies (possibly because they want to sell me more chips lol)....only that their predator will only write to GM and I believe possibly dodge...I may be incorrect with the dodge.
Thanks alot! the search continues.
augustorm
06-16-2004, 02:21 AM
you can get programmers for your car thru many websites and or performance shops.
maybe they are just curving some simple aspects of their cars
Thanks for the input but all so far (that I have found) say that they cannot write to the stock ecu.....I may have to do what ldelaysionl suggests and replace mine with an aftermarket unit....then get software for it....then again....perhaps the aftermarket companies making these ecu's write software for their units....hmmmm.
Thanks
maybe they are just curving some simple aspects of their cars
Thanks for the input but all so far (that I have found) say that they cannot write to the stock ecu.....I may have to do what ldelaysionl suggests and replace mine with an aftermarket unit....then get software for it....then again....perhaps the aftermarket companies making these ecu's write software for their units....hmmmm.
Thanks
ruralrebelracing
06-16-2004, 02:47 PM
I own a 95 MUSTANG GT. If you want to run nos and play with the stock settings there is the VENOM nitrous company. they have after market chip that comes with it, that lets you change some of the stock configurations of the car, such as adjust the red line system so you can go faster. And you have the nos wet or dry shot. 50 100 150 200 250.
If you go to www.jcwhitney.com, they might have a controller you hook up to wear the engine check system is and you can change idile, how much fuel is allowed in the chamber and some other stuff.
If you go to www.jcwhitney.com, they might have a controller you hook up to wear the engine check system is and you can change idile, how much fuel is allowed in the chamber and some other stuff.
augustorm
06-16-2004, 08:32 PM
I own a 95 MUSTANG GT. If you want to run nos and play with the stock settings there is the VENOM nitrous company. they have after market chip that comes with it, that lets you change some of the stock configurations of the car, such as adjust the red line system so you can go faster. And you have the nos wet or dry shot. 50 100 150 200 250.
If you go to www.jcwhitney.com, they might have a controller you hook up to wear the engine check system is and you can change idile, how much fuel is allowed in the chamber and some other stuff.
LMAO...I never dreamed J.C.Whitney would have shit like that...thanks.
I'll check out Venom and see what they presently have....thanks again.
If you go to www.jcwhitney.com, they might have a controller you hook up to wear the engine check system is and you can change idile, how much fuel is allowed in the chamber and some other stuff.
LMAO...I never dreamed J.C.Whitney would have shit like that...thanks.
I'll check out Venom and see what they presently have....thanks again.
GTStang
06-16-2004, 11:59 PM
Ok...
1. It has been my experience that street racers are quite serious about their rides and very knowledgeable....that is why I post here among other places. If i may only post recent races i have witnessed or been apart of....then my bad and you're right "strike 1"
but not everyone here is following your strict protocol.
2. I do run a Diablo Delta Sport at present and it is the only chip i can run with the bottle....because i can retard my timing on the fly (at least the only one I have found) when i want to use the nitrous. And Diablo has told me personally that it can only be reflashed a few times before a new chip is needed. I want to stay away from having to buy new chips continuously. In addition...I was pointed to Ford by a couple of students that are studying to be mechanics or "Technicians" as they are now called. So that "Strike" is negated heh.
3. And lastly....I made the terrible mistake in assuming that if you knew anything other than that are several products out there since the efi 5.0 days that you would offer up some specifics...but you did not. If anything that would be a "strike" against you.
And btw....I truly hope that your LS1 info is regarding stock vehicles against stock vehicles....in that instance, I would tend to agree with you....otherwise....you would be incorrect.....then again almost anything that has been modified could beat any stock ride...if modified correctly right?
Actually I like the LS1....and I like GT's.....funny thing is....I'm always looking at them (when they are stock) from my rear view mirror lol.
Peace.
I don't know what street racing has to do with a Ford Mustang specific question but ok. But street racers are a joke compared to people who actually go to the track on a regular basis.
I worked for an official diablo dealer for over a year where we burned chips in house. That may have been what they told you but that is definetly not true at all. That's not how Diablo's "Tick" system works. Being a Ford mechanics or Technicians just means you know about stock nothing bout modifiying.
These things are not very hard to find and maybe I felt my comment would encourage you to look a lil harder and maybe learn more about what your looking for. There is knowledge to be had in the journey.
As for my sig I truly hope you can learn to detect a joke when it's quite obvious.
The venom stuff is useless and not what your are talking bout. And now after all this you still are no closer to your answer. But you may countinue to debate with me instead of getting your answers.
1. It has been my experience that street racers are quite serious about their rides and very knowledgeable....that is why I post here among other places. If i may only post recent races i have witnessed or been apart of....then my bad and you're right "strike 1"
but not everyone here is following your strict protocol.
2. I do run a Diablo Delta Sport at present and it is the only chip i can run with the bottle....because i can retard my timing on the fly (at least the only one I have found) when i want to use the nitrous. And Diablo has told me personally that it can only be reflashed a few times before a new chip is needed. I want to stay away from having to buy new chips continuously. In addition...I was pointed to Ford by a couple of students that are studying to be mechanics or "Technicians" as they are now called. So that "Strike" is negated heh.
3. And lastly....I made the terrible mistake in assuming that if you knew anything other than that are several products out there since the efi 5.0 days that you would offer up some specifics...but you did not. If anything that would be a "strike" against you.
And btw....I truly hope that your LS1 info is regarding stock vehicles against stock vehicles....in that instance, I would tend to agree with you....otherwise....you would be incorrect.....then again almost anything that has been modified could beat any stock ride...if modified correctly right?
Actually I like the LS1....and I like GT's.....funny thing is....I'm always looking at them (when they are stock) from my rear view mirror lol.
Peace.
I don't know what street racing has to do with a Ford Mustang specific question but ok. But street racers are a joke compared to people who actually go to the track on a regular basis.
I worked for an official diablo dealer for over a year where we burned chips in house. That may have been what they told you but that is definetly not true at all. That's not how Diablo's "Tick" system works. Being a Ford mechanics or Technicians just means you know about stock nothing bout modifiying.
These things are not very hard to find and maybe I felt my comment would encourage you to look a lil harder and maybe learn more about what your looking for. There is knowledge to be had in the journey.
As for my sig I truly hope you can learn to detect a joke when it's quite obvious.
The venom stuff is useless and not what your are talking bout. And now after all this you still are no closer to your answer. But you may countinue to debate with me instead of getting your answers.
augustorm
06-17-2004, 12:13 AM
All that and you still don't have a real answer to ya question and no the Venom is not even close.
Dude...make a mental note....go back to school....learn something....make sense when you post....and....ruralrebelracing I think might be hooking me up with what i want so your ignorance is no longer required.
Peace
Dude...make a mental note....go back to school....learn something....make sense when you post....and....ruralrebelracing I think might be hooking me up with what i want so your ignorance is no longer required.
Peace
augustorm
06-17-2004, 12:18 AM
I don't know what street racing has to do with a Ford Mustang specific question but ok. But street racers are a joke compared to people who actually go to the track on a regular basis.
I worked for an official diablo dealer for over a year where we burned chips in house. That may have been what they told you but that is definetly not true at all. That's not how Diablo's "Tick" system works. Being a Ford mechanics or Technicians just means you know about stock nothing bout modifiying.
These things are not very hard to find and maybe I felt my comment would encourage you to look a lil harder and maybe learn more about what your looking for. There is knowledge to be had in the journey.
As for my sig I truly hope you can learn to detect a joke when it's quite obvious.
The venom stuff is useless and not what your are talking bout. And now after all this you still are no closer to your answer. But you may countinue to debate with me instead of getting your answers.
So now you want to come out and teach me something....
Thank you.....disregard my last post. Perhaps you are not the kid I once thought you were....my apologies.
Now lemme go read your post and if you are still willing to teach me something I would appreciate it.....and in case you are wondering...ruralrebelracing has pm'g me about something entirely different than the venom. The thing sounds like an ordinary chip to me...and i have one of those.
Thanks finally for your love.
I worked for an official diablo dealer for over a year where we burned chips in house. That may have been what they told you but that is definetly not true at all. That's not how Diablo's "Tick" system works. Being a Ford mechanics or Technicians just means you know about stock nothing bout modifiying.
These things are not very hard to find and maybe I felt my comment would encourage you to look a lil harder and maybe learn more about what your looking for. There is knowledge to be had in the journey.
As for my sig I truly hope you can learn to detect a joke when it's quite obvious.
The venom stuff is useless and not what your are talking bout. And now after all this you still are no closer to your answer. But you may countinue to debate with me instead of getting your answers.
So now you want to come out and teach me something....
Thank you.....disregard my last post. Perhaps you are not the kid I once thought you were....my apologies.
Now lemme go read your post and if you are still willing to teach me something I would appreciate it.....and in case you are wondering...ruralrebelracing has pm'g me about something entirely different than the venom. The thing sounds like an ordinary chip to me...and i have one of those.
Thanks finally for your love.
GTStang
06-17-2004, 12:27 AM
So now you want to come out and teach me something....
Thank you.....disregard my last post. Perhaps you are not the kid I once thought you were....my apologies.
Now lemme go read your post and if you are still willing to teach me something I would appreciate it.....and in case you are wondering...ruralrebelracing has pm'g me about something entirely different than the venom. The thing sounds like an ordinary chip to me...and i have one of those.
Thanks finally for your love.
Fair enough I will disregard that post...
I'm 22 I don't know how old you are but regardless please refrain from calling me kid it has a condescending feeling it we don't need that. :grinno:
Try this to get you started "Tweecer"
Thank you.....disregard my last post. Perhaps you are not the kid I once thought you were....my apologies.
Now lemme go read your post and if you are still willing to teach me something I would appreciate it.....and in case you are wondering...ruralrebelracing has pm'g me about something entirely different than the venom. The thing sounds like an ordinary chip to me...and i have one of those.
Thanks finally for your love.
Fair enough I will disregard that post...
I'm 22 I don't know how old you are but regardless please refrain from calling me kid it has a condescending feeling it we don't need that. :grinno:
Try this to get you started "Tweecer"
augustorm
06-17-2004, 12:32 AM
Fair enough I will disregard that post...
I'm 22 I don't know how old you are but regardless please refrain from calling me kid it has a condescending feeling it we don't need that. :grinno:
Try this to get you started "Tweecer"
39 and i have to tweak on something....it relaxes me....I'm a pilot for christs sake!
I'm 22 I don't know how old you are but regardless please refrain from calling me kid it has a condescending feeling it we don't need that. :grinno:
Try this to get you started "Tweecer"
39 and i have to tweak on something....it relaxes me....I'm a pilot for christs sake!
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