how much could an evo 7 handle???
morgnum
01-23-2002, 12:20 AM
when the u.s. evo 7 gets here , if i were to put intake, headers, downpipe, highflow cat, cat-back exhaust, ball-bearing turbo, boost control, chip, and other small mods, how much hp. do you think the evo 7 would safely run, for a daily driver/racer???????
i saw that the eXtreme S evo 7 only had 350 hp (not that that isnt alot) but it seemed like i was fully modded, is that about the max, and would that even be able to hadle daily driving??????
thanks guys:)
i saw that the eXtreme S evo 7 only had 350 hp (not that that isnt alot) but it seemed like i was fully modded, is that about the max, and would that even be able to hadle daily driving??????
thanks guys:)
2evos
01-23-2002, 12:33 AM
Cx this out!
http://www.junauto.co.jp/democar/evo5/spec.html?en
The mods r valid for 7 as it is the same powerplant.
http://www.junauto.co.jp/democar/evo5/spec.html?en
The mods r valid for 7 as it is the same powerplant.
morgnum
01-23-2002, 01:10 AM
but how much horsepower do you think that would put the evo 7 at with the mods i mentioned above????
thats only like $5k of mods isnt it??? i would think it would put at least 350 hp to it. right?????
thats only like $5k of mods isnt it??? i would think it would put at least 350 hp to it. right?????
moldyhands
01-23-2002, 01:24 AM
a new turbo and remapping the ECU is gonna give you a lot of hastle. you'll have to dyno that thing quite a bit to tune in the timing and mixtures. those things don't just come plug and play, even when they're sold as a package (such as stage 1). any good tuner will tell you that you'll have to put dyno time in when you do something like that cuz every car is different. and what about suspension? i know the suspension is already great, but if the power isn't enough for you, then you're probably gonna want to lower and stiffen the car too. this will cost extra money. just chiming in.
-moldy
-moldy
2evos
01-23-2002, 01:26 AM
We have a tuning house here which is the dealer for Apexi products. A couple of months ago their Evo 7 was featured in our papers. The car was dynoed at 322 HP on A DTS 4WD Friction brake chassis dyno. The list of bolt on parts r :
1. Apexi cat back exhaust system
2. Apexi cat replacement
3. K&N open pod filter
4. An in- house heat shield
5. Apexi S-AFC
6. Apexi AVC-R
7. After market fuel pump.
The cost of the above items is about 10000 Malaysian Ringgit which is about 2650 US Dollars
1. Apexi cat back exhaust system
2. Apexi cat replacement
3. K&N open pod filter
4. An in- house heat shield
5. Apexi S-AFC
6. Apexi AVC-R
7. After market fuel pump.
The cost of the above items is about 10000 Malaysian Ringgit which is about 2650 US Dollars
BlackStripes
01-23-2002, 11:12 AM
I was wondering the same, how much can handle internals and tranny???
I'm in a debate with myself, about spending more money in my car or just save to buy a EVO. And almost everything depends on how much HP, the internals and tranny can handle in a EVO.
In my case, if i buy a turbo kit for my mustang (around $7K), i can make around 800HP, but of course i have to change transmission, internals, fuel system, brakes... etc etc......and that is about OTHER $10K ..!!!
2evos, 322HP is not bad for $2650 ... if they are 4WHP... i'm not sure how much is the loss after the crank in a AWD, but, in a RWD is about 15%, and those 322HP will be just 273HP..!!!
I'm in a debate with myself, about spending more money in my car or just save to buy a EVO. And almost everything depends on how much HP, the internals and tranny can handle in a EVO.
In my case, if i buy a turbo kit for my mustang (around $7K), i can make around 800HP, but of course i have to change transmission, internals, fuel system, brakes... etc etc......and that is about OTHER $10K ..!!!
2evos, 322HP is not bad for $2650 ... if they are 4WHP... i'm not sure how much is the loss after the crank in a AWD, but, in a RWD is about 15%, and those 322HP will be just 273HP..!!!
BlackevoVII
01-23-2002, 02:51 PM
didnt' someone say the stock evo7 could take about 400hp before changes need to be made to accomodate?
2evos
01-23-2002, 11:12 PM
The 322hp on the dyno is at the wheels not on the engine.
Turbo442
01-26-2002, 05:10 PM
A turbo kit for your mustang that puts out 800 hp and costs $7000! Why are you even wasting your time on this EVO forum? Everyone here must seem like a bumbling buffoon for wasting his or her time considering a car as slow as the EVO with its meager 280 hp. It seems like a clear-cut decision. Buy the turbo for $7000 and slap on a set of drag tires for another $300. Another $3000 in accessories to support the 800hp turbo and you should be all set. You will not need to worry about the tranny or drive train since you will have so much wheel spin any time you touch the throttle. After you get things tuned and streetable you should consider finding a wrecked Mercury Mountaineer for its AWD tranny and drive train. ($2000) I am sure that its tranny will handle the 800 hp your car is now putting out as well as bolt up to your ford block. I am not sure if the front drive shafts will slide in but a man with your genius should have no problems getting it to work. Please post pictures to this forum when you complete this project.
Matt
Matt
BlackStripes
02-01-2002, 01:53 PM
Hey Matt very sarcastic guy...,
Don't get this wrong, but, just, in case, if you think i'm a redneck driving a domestic car... you are wrong.
i love sport cars, period, i don't care about if is a Mitsu or Ford. I just want keep open my options.
The chances to get $7000 for the stage 2XX of a turbo for my car (www.turbodrivenconcepts.com) are not good for now.
Because, besides the $2000 for install that thing, the basic problem is that i have to change almost all transmission, actually, ALL the transmission, clutch, carbon composite driveshaft, rear, brakes etc etc. Not talking about billet rods, pistons, a new crank. Total cost, around $15,000 or more. The new modular engines not are very easy to work in. Just to get my heads ported and polished, one shop is charging me $1500 for labor !!!
So, another option is buy a car that can handle a lot of power (like the Supra Turbo) and keep installing new mods little by little. Therefore, i asked how much can handle a Evo VII, is a lot cheaper and if is like the Sti, is a heck fun car to drive..!! :)
I just want to learn, I drove a Sti in Argentina about one year ago and that's it... remember there are not dumb questions... only dumb answers..
peace.
Don't get this wrong, but, just, in case, if you think i'm a redneck driving a domestic car... you are wrong.
i love sport cars, period, i don't care about if is a Mitsu or Ford. I just want keep open my options.
The chances to get $7000 for the stage 2XX of a turbo for my car (www.turbodrivenconcepts.com) are not good for now.
Because, besides the $2000 for install that thing, the basic problem is that i have to change almost all transmission, actually, ALL the transmission, clutch, carbon composite driveshaft, rear, brakes etc etc. Not talking about billet rods, pistons, a new crank. Total cost, around $15,000 or more. The new modular engines not are very easy to work in. Just to get my heads ported and polished, one shop is charging me $1500 for labor !!!
So, another option is buy a car that can handle a lot of power (like the Supra Turbo) and keep installing new mods little by little. Therefore, i asked how much can handle a Evo VII, is a lot cheaper and if is like the Sti, is a heck fun car to drive..!! :)
I just want to learn, I drove a Sti in Argentina about one year ago and that's it... remember there are not dumb questions... only dumb answers..
peace.
90CRXZCSi
02-05-2002, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by 2evos
The 322hp on the dyno is at the wheels not on the engine.
Yea which puts it at almost 350HP to the flywheel. pretty impressive for a Lancer.:D
The 322hp on the dyno is at the wheels not on the engine.
Yea which puts it at almost 350HP to the flywheel. pretty impressive for a Lancer.:D
85toyrunner
02-12-2002, 12:53 PM
1/2 the horsepower and a good driver are better then twice the horsepower and a bad driver. Save your money the cars gonna be pritty quick on its own. Never forget you'll never be the fastest one on the street, there's always someone who's faster. Just my 2 cents cause thats all I got!!!!:D
BlackStripes
02-14-2002, 10:36 AM
Of course there are someone faster than you.... but, put it in this way, everytime we (Mustang club) have challenges with the Corvette or Viper clubs, they kick my a$$, SO bad that i want a little more power.. :)
kevwithoutacorrado
02-19-2002, 04:58 PM
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kevin
kevin
BlackStripes
02-20-2002, 08:27 AM
Somebody knows what's the lost in drivetrain in a AWD?? In a rear wheel drive, after the flywheel, we say that is a 15% in a stick shift and about 18% in an automatic... somebody knows??
kevwithoutacorrado
02-20-2002, 11:48 AM
It also depends on the car. I would like to see these compared regarding effeciency / power loss / traction performance disregarding other aspects of the cars.
Audi Quattro
VW 4Motion
Evo VII ACD / AYC / (does the AWD have a name??)
Subaru STi (whatever they call it)
BMW 330xi (whatever they call it)
Porsche (whatever they call it)
does the subs and evos being more rally than the others make it different in efficiency?
anyone know???
Audi Quattro
VW 4Motion
Evo VII ACD / AYC / (does the AWD have a name??)
Subaru STi (whatever they call it)
BMW 330xi (whatever they call it)
Porsche (whatever they call it)
does the subs and evos being more rally than the others make it different in efficiency?
anyone know???
lancerz
02-22-2002, 08:05 AM
I've seen photos of 550bhp EVO VI's no shit, and i speak to someone who is aiming to get his EVO VI TME at 550bhp, which the car is now at 430bhp. :D
BlackStripes
02-22-2002, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by lancerz
I've seen photos of 550bhp EVO VI's no shit, and i speak to someone who is aiming to get his EVO VI TME at 550bhp, which the car is now at 430bhp. :D
I guess that you can get that and maybe more, if you change pistons and rods for forged or billet ones.
But the question was, with stock internals and transmission, how much the Evo can handle? Nobody wants to destroy your car or buy new engines .. well... i guess, if i win the lotery i can do that .. :rolleyes:
I've seen photos of 550bhp EVO VI's no shit, and i speak to someone who is aiming to get his EVO VI TME at 550bhp, which the car is now at 430bhp. :D
I guess that you can get that and maybe more, if you change pistons and rods for forged or billet ones.
But the question was, with stock internals and transmission, how much the Evo can handle? Nobody wants to destroy your car or buy new engines .. well... i guess, if i win the lotery i can do that .. :rolleyes:
lancerz
02-22-2002, 10:37 PM
It's hard to say what it can handle, it depends on what equipment was added and how it was tuned. Im sure the EVO VI can handle more then the EVO VII (i will stand corrected when i see a EVO VII over 550bhp).
But the EVO VII could handle some what mod's. With the price that was stated, there wouldnt be much power increase, and im sure it could handle that.
But the EVO VII could handle some what mod's. With the price that was stated, there wouldnt be much power increase, and im sure it could handle that.
morgnum
02-23-2002, 02:01 PM
I know the evo 7 is a little heavier but isnt it the same motor, so why wouldnt it have as much potential as the 6????
also, i know there have been alot of debates of the evo vs. sti, but you seem like you know alot, so which actually has better street performance, and which engine has more potential???? i mean i never hear about 550 hp sti's.
also, i know there have been alot of debates of the evo vs. sti, but you seem like you know alot, so which actually has better street performance, and which engine has more potential???? i mean i never hear about 550 hp sti's.
morgnum
02-25-2002, 01:45 AM
ANYONE???:confused: :help: :confused:
Turbo442
02-25-2002, 12:55 PM
The only difference between the VI and VII motor that I know of is the turbo. It is a simple swap between the two. 550 hp and up is possible on these motors but anything over 400 really becomes unstreetable. What do I mean by unstreetable? Very loud, wont pass emissions, race gas only, parts wearing out and constant maintence to keep the car running correctly.
With a lot of hard work a 4G63's can make over 700 hp.
http://www.extrememotorsports.com/
How much HP can the EVO VII handle stock? What do you plan on doing with it? There is a big difference between playing around on the street, running 1/4 mile times at the strip or running a 30 min road course event. If you want to keep your EVO running with as little problems as possible keep the stock internals and shoot for 350-400 hp.
Matt
With a lot of hard work a 4G63's can make over 700 hp.
http://www.extrememotorsports.com/
How much HP can the EVO VII handle stock? What do you plan on doing with it? There is a big difference between playing around on the street, running 1/4 mile times at the strip or running a 30 min road course event. If you want to keep your EVO running with as little problems as possible keep the stock internals and shoot for 350-400 hp.
Matt
Focal_M3
02-26-2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by kevwithoutacorrado
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kevin
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kevin
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