best 4banger under 10k

hey ive been around the forums a bit, havent really seen this type of thread yet. what do u guys think is the best 4cyl for 10k or under? coupes or sedans, anything is game

99 gsx all the way also might take 99tsi and 2000 type r integra in to concideration

cant forget the 3sgte (2nd gen mr2)

99' GSX

I'd personally go for an E36 3-Series for sub 10,000, but thats a 6

wow seems like everyones up for dsm, what if i said anything besides dsm because everyone in my area has one

MR2's
Miata's
240SX's
RX7's
CRX's
Civic's

its pretty damn hard to find a gsx under 10,000 dont u think? if it is less than that then it is most likely pretty messed up, in which case i would get a different car... gsx's run usually arround 15,000

id take a '92 mr2 (turbo) over a gsx.

its pretty damn hard to find a gsx under 10,000 dont u think? if it is less than that then it is most likely pretty messed up, in which case i would get a different car... gsx's run usually arround 15,000

You do know that GSX's ran from 1990-1999 right? And that there are two versions...1st Gen

http://www.strongwelding.com/~jschertz/pictures/clubdsm/ams0210.jpg

and 2nd Gen

http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/mitsubishi/1998/mitsubishi_eclipse_gsx_02_show.jpg

MR2's
Miata's
240SX's
RX7's
CRX's
Civic's

why rx7?(i am preaty sure you are aware of them not being 4bangers...

my list would be same minus rx7 and civic. but in there place I say Impreza 2.5RS and MR2(any gen tbh, they all kick ass). :evillol:

91-94 sentra with a det swap umm

Kill me now. Stupid jap cars :grinno:

What about the e30 m3? You could find a good one for under $10k if you looked...

BTW, not all e36's are sixes. the 318's were 4 cylinders.

ya u know cuz all japanese cars are stupid right?:flipa: and i do believe this was straite 4 banger not inline 6 so yes your 318 is a decent answer. mr2 turbo man the best 4 banger around

why rx7?(i am preaty sure you are aware of them not being 4bangers...

my list would be same minus rx7 and civic. but in there place I say Impreza 2.5RS and MR2(any gen tbh, they all kick ass). :evillol:

I dunno if the 2.5 RS can be found under 10k...

I said the RX7 b/c in essence it's a 1.3 liter...and they can be found for under 10k...and fit the banger mentality

Civic's w/motor swaps and turbo's can kick some serious arse!!! Beware!

Kill me now. Stupid jap cars :grinno:

What about the e30 m3? You could find a good one for under $10k if you looked...

BTW, not all e36's are sixes. the 318's were 4 cylinders.

stupid jap cars... riiiight.

an e30 is a great car, but it'd need work, and would not be as quick as the gsx

If you don't want a DSM, try a 240SX, Integra GS-R, or MR2 Turbo.

99 gsx all the way also might take 99tsi and 2000 type r integra in to concideration

What are you talking about? You can't get any of those cars for under $10K, especially the Type R. What is a 99 TSI, didn't they stop making the Eagle version in 1998, you can get the 1998 TSI for under $10K, I would say that is one of the best for under $10K or a 1998 Eclipse GSX.

I dunno if the 2.5 RS can be found under 10k...

I said the RX7 b/c in essence it's a 1.3 liter...and they can be found for under 10k...and fit the banger mentality

Civic's w/motor swaps and turbo's can kick some serious arse!!! Beware!

in actuality its a 2.6 liter, and thats more than the average 4 banger, you probably just assumed it was a 4 banger and said it lol

Nope, the RX-7 is a 1.3-liter, 2-rotor engine.

Nope, the RX-7 is a 1.3-liter, 2-rotor engine.well take a look at this ok, the rx8 won the new new engine of the year + the best 2.5-3.0 liter engine, it still says its a 1.3 liter engine, if you did a little research you would know that its 1.3 liter per rotor, the jdm rx7 engine has 3 rotors effectively making 3.9 liters, mazda uses the "1.3 liter" thing as marketing to tell everyone how muchpower they can push out of a small engine, but in fact its just another way to cheat

2003 Winners
Best New Engine: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
Best Fuel Economy: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
Best Performance Engine: Mercedes-AMG 55 (CL55, E55, S55, SL55)
Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
1-litre to 1.4-litre: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: MINI Supercharged 1.6-litre (Cooper S)
1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
2-litre to 2.5-litre: BMW 2.5-litre (325i, 525i, Z4)
2.5-litre to 3-litre: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
Above 4-litre: Volkswagen 5-litre V10 TDi (Touareg, Phaeton)
International Engine of the Year 2003: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)

http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/ieoty.html
http://motortrend.com/features/news/news_030604_ieoty/

there you go even proof from motor trend

actually, not really (not all of it)
the rotary is 1.3 liters, yes.
not 1.3 per rotor.
1.3 total for 2 rotors.

it's basically a 2 stroke motor though, meaning that in conventional terms, it's a 2.6 (this is how it's classified in racing situations, such as circuit racing, etc.)

JDM rx7 NEVER had a 3 rotor.
only the japanese market Cosmo, a 3 rotor powered luxo coupe.

no rx7 ever had a stock 20b.
20b meaning 2.0 liters with 3 rotors.

and i do believe this was straite 4 banger not inline 6 so yes your 318 is a decent answer.

Umm... does this mean you think the e30 m3 isn't? :screwy:

Let me explain...
3 versions of the e30 m3 made it to the US. The highlight of these was the 1990 m3 evoIII, powered by a 2.5 liter inline 4 producing 238 hp. The engine of the standard e30 m3 (the S14, a DOHC 2.3 liter 4-cylinder producing 195 hp @ 6750 RPM and 166 lb-ft of torque @ 4750 RPM) was a direct descendent of the BMW m10 F1 engine. Oh, and as a sidenote, the standard m10 engine (found in early e30 318 models) is regarded by many as the best engine ever made by BMW. It is not unheard of for this engine to make it past 400,000 miles without a rebuild.

So you probably are right about the e30 m3 being slower in a straight line, but it could definetely keep up in the twisties. And if we are talking about not just speed, but the classic-ness of a car (yes I just invented a new word :loser: ) I would spring for the m3 for sure.

ya i know u meant e 30 nice car, but it will get smoked by alot of the other cars up there as well as with handling. now if we were talkin the 36, or46 thats a whole different story

id still go with the 2nd gen mr2 turbo

wow good responses here,

heres a question, does the rx7 engine have a head in the true sense of a head, as in being able to install new valves and cams? i have no idea how rotors work.

actually, not really (not all of it)
the rotary is 1.3 liters, yes.
not 1.3 per rotor.
1.3 total for 2 rotors.

it's basically a 2 stroke motor though, meaning that in conventional terms, it's a 2.6 (this is how it's classified in racing situations, such as circuit racing, etc.)

JDM rx7 NEVER had a 3 rotor.
only the japanese market Cosmo, a 3 rotor powered luxo coupe.

no rx7 ever had a stock 20b.
20b meaning 2.0 liters with 3 rotors.

i c i c, good info i jus know it wasn't really 1.3 liters

ya i know u meant e 30 nice car, but it will get smoked by alot of the other cars up there as well as with handling. now if we were talkin the 36, or46 thats a whole different story

Alright, lets see some numbers. Post the factory specs from these other cars. And what makes the e36 or e46 so superior? (other than more hp :rolleyes: ) The e30 m3 is a legend in bmw circles. Only 5000 were ever imported to the US, and 16 years later there are even fewer. I live in the richest city in my state, and have only ever seen 2.

wow you must really be cool for living in the richest city in your state. i live in chicago im pretty sure thats the richest there. guess what my friend the newer m3's cost more and are now believe it or not better. ok u want the other specs here u go

mr2- 200hp, 200torque 2650 pounds
eclipse gsx- 210 hp 214 torque 2767 lbs
rx-7- 255hp 217 torque 2826 lbs

now your m3 also isnt cheap 5000 made come on man you think he will actually find one for 10 grand then? doubtful plus the japanese cars are so much less money to fix if something goes wrong, but i forgot mommy pays for you because your so rich

Mr2... at least the old one not the new Mr2 spyder is way lighter than 2600lb... it was the lightest car on the raod, lighter than the CRX, which was 2100 or 2200.

the 2nd generation was a lil over 2600 sorry man
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2356

still light as all hell hence i chose it

255hp rx7?? isnt that the tt? gl finding that for under 10,000...

i also found that the 1995 - 1999 gsx came with 210hp which i earlier said is really hard to find for under 10,000

the earlier model came with 195...

so once again, im still leaning twards teh mr2 turbo

you really think u can find a mr2 turbo for under 10k?

edit: just looked at some classifieds, i guess you can!

most mr2 turbos are under 10,000 unless it has less than 100,000 miles or it is highly modified... trust me, its not very hard to find one for that much :screwy:

my concern is reliability....

obviously a gsr in the 100k mile range will last longer than a mr2 with 100k or more

i seen 4 eclipses, 2nd gen in the adds today for under 10grand.

how long do gsr's last? im pretty sure it cant be that much longer than an mr2

wut kind of eclipses? it makes a difference

i dunno how the feck my friend got his.. but a 93 mr2 turbo for 5500! ASSHOLE!! Leather, ttops.. ah man it's sweet.. 5 speed.. i've never been in car that can take 90 degree turns at 45mph. BTW.. something much different that the other cars mentioned.. the engine is located in the middle giving much better equilibrium and the car is rear wheel drive. Bad thing about those cars is that tires go out after 15-20000 miles.. no matter what kind u put on

btw my friend bought his with 53k miles!

I say a 1g eclipse gsx or awd Talon for around 3kish . spend those extra $$$ on mods and youll have a nice rocket in no time. I dont know about an mr2 but the gsx is an easy 12 sec car with 2k in mods. Before you rant, dont forget you only paid 3k MAX for the car, ive seen afew 92 gsxes with 80,000 miles on em running $1800. Not trying to say that just because I own a dsm, but the already equipt 14b in the light weight awd 1gen has gotten into the low 12's with bolt ons(this matters based on how tuned the car is). So weigh your options buy the mr2 may your first death be to a dsm hehe kidding.