Bah!
korndogg
06-11-2004, 12:42 AM
ok heres the deal. ive been looking online at summit and jegs and i cant find a non lockup torque converter with a 2200-2400 stall. if anyone would be able to find this online for me let me know. its for a 327 and a 1988 700r4. i dunno if im just not seeing them on the sites or what. i would really appreciate it if someone could find it for me though.
DaMoNe6969
06-11-2004, 02:11 AM
You can try
http://www.dpconverters.com/Site-B/B2A.php
You need a non lock up transmission I think.. Or you can get a conversion valve..
But I think I seen one on that site
http://www.dpconverters.com/Site-B/B2A.php
You need a non lock up transmission I think.. Or you can get a conversion valve..
But I think I seen one on that site
korndogg
06-11-2004, 02:23 AM
whats a conversion valve? sorry..im not good with trannys at all.
DaMoNe6969
06-11-2004, 02:30 AM
Its a converter conversion valve.. It allows you to put your non-lock up converter into a lock-up transmission.. It corrects the fluid flow
korndogg
06-11-2004, 02:31 AM
ah corrects fuid flow...thats what i needed to know! okay cool...so i take it a 700r4 is a lock up right?
DaMoNe6969
06-11-2004, 02:46 AM
Im pretty sure it is? someone correct me if im wrong.. I know the TH-350's were a non-lockup tranny.. but im just about positive the 700's are lock-up
DaMoNe6969
06-11-2004, 02:53 AM
The guys at B&M have a kit to control your lock-up, should you use a lock-up converter.. theres an electrical sending unit that goes on the trans, where the speedo cable is hooked up, that monitors vehicle speed (the speedo cable then hooks up to it). There is also a wire that gets spliced into the brake light switch. Then a little panel gets mounted under your dash that has a control switch where you can set the desired speed where the lock-up occurs (between 30 and 90 MPH). There is an led that indicates when the trans is "locked up".
But, Should you choose to use a non-lock up, Ive been told the conversion is very simple.. (compared to doing a shift kit in a TH-350) And if you dont do it, Your tranny will tend to run hot.. (heat is the killer of 9 out of 10 trans'!)
But, Should you choose to use a non-lock up, Ive been told the conversion is very simple.. (compared to doing a shift kit in a TH-350) And if you dont do it, Your tranny will tend to run hot.. (heat is the killer of 9 out of 10 trans'!)
korndogg
06-11-2004, 02:55 AM
well its got the lockup wiring harness on it...i just figured if you wired it up then it was lockup and if you didnt then it was a nonlockup.
sykotic1
06-11-2004, 11:42 AM
can anyone explain the difference between lockup and nonlockup and what it does? i have a 91 z with the 700r4, and ive heard that a performance TC can free up some decent power depending on the application..
korndogg
06-11-2004, 12:28 PM
And if you dont do it, Your tranny will tend to run hot.. (heat is the killer of 9 out of 10 trans'!)
Thats what a tranny cooler is for :)
Thats what a tranny cooler is for :)
89IROC&RS
06-11-2004, 07:31 PM
um, why dont you want lockup???????????
DaMoNe6969
06-11-2004, 07:49 PM
can anyone explain the difference between lockup and nonlockup and what it does? i have a 91 z with the 700r4, and ive heard that a performance TC can free up some decent power depending on the application..
The advantage of the lock-up is it is more efficient on the highway. When you are in third gear and the RPMs get to a certain level, the distributor triggers the torque converter. This makes the transmission work at a straight 1:1 with no lost power from torque converter slippage. These transmissions are considered to have 3 1/2 gears because of the lock-up.
The down side to the lock-up is the torque converter is not any larger than the non-lock-up version. The clutches take up a lot of space in the converter and so the converter tends to generate more heat. The non lock up is also sposda last a lot longer
The advantage of the lock-up is it is more efficient on the highway. When you are in third gear and the RPMs get to a certain level, the distributor triggers the torque converter. This makes the transmission work at a straight 1:1 with no lost power from torque converter slippage. These transmissions are considered to have 3 1/2 gears because of the lock-up.
The down side to the lock-up is the torque converter is not any larger than the non-lock-up version. The clutches take up a lot of space in the converter and so the converter tends to generate more heat. The non lock up is also sposda last a lot longer
89IROC&RS
06-11-2004, 07:56 PM
um....... you mean 4th gear lockup????? at least in the 700R4, although technicly the converter can lockup in any gear but first.
DaMoNe6969
06-11-2004, 07:57 PM
my bad.. I was thinkin about the later th-350's...
korndogg
06-11-2004, 10:37 PM
i dont wanna lock up cause its cheaper and damone i was told today that i dont need a conversion valve....
89IROC&RS
06-11-2004, 11:16 PM
well, if you do highway driving, the cost of gas in the longrun is going to far surpass the price of the lockup converter. especially with the price of gas nowadays, i personally recomend the lockup. but thats just my two cents.
korndogg
06-12-2004, 12:54 AM
see thats the thing though...im not gonna be doing hwy driving. its mostly around the city cruisin around.
68chevelle
06-12-2004, 01:54 AM
well im getting into this one late cuz i was gone all night. you dont need a conversion valve, if its wired then it will work and if its not wired then it wont work. as far as i know. and im with 89iroc on the chice between lockup and non-lockup. aside from the price there is no reason to not have the lockup. there are however some aplications that it is not needed, sutch as drag only car. and yes a non-lockup will create heat and you will need to make sure you have a big enough trans cooler to take care of that. yeah if you go the lockup rought you will need to spend more money for the converter and the wiring and stuff but i think its the better way to go for a street car.
P.S. you do know everything about the TV cable setup right. it must be done corectly and with the proper parts.
P.S. you do know everything about the TV cable setup right. it must be done corectly and with the proper parts.
korndogg
06-12-2004, 01:59 AM
yeah i know how to adjust it....however im still not sure what parts i need...i was told i just need a tv cable and the bracket for the carb...
and the reason i dont think i need a lockup is cause i just cruise around in it every once and a while. its all stop and go. only hwy driving that ill be doing is going to the strip.
oh and with the tranny cooler, its like 3/4 the size of my radiator (the radiator isnt that big in the first place) and im running it through the radiator and the tranny cooler so i figure itll be plenty cool.
and the reason i dont think i need a lockup is cause i just cruise around in it every once and a while. its all stop and go. only hwy driving that ill be doing is going to the strip.
oh and with the tranny cooler, its like 3/4 the size of my radiator (the radiator isnt that big in the first place) and im running it through the radiator and the tranny cooler so i figure itll be plenty cool.
68chevelle
06-12-2004, 06:02 PM
yeah you need the correct brackets and a TV cable, but dont get a TV cable for a 700R4 and a 2004R confused with a detent cable cuz they are not the same. just make sure its actualy a TV cable and your set. if you want a link to a palce where you can get all that stuff that you will need hit me up and ill give it to you.
korndogg
06-12-2004, 06:42 PM
i think you gave me a link...mayb it wasnt you. but it was a whole kit for 130 bucks.....i was told all i need is a bracket and a tv cable...this kit had all kinds of stuff other than a bracket and tv cable.
68chevelle
06-13-2004, 02:28 AM
yeah i think it was me. but you have to have the stuff to attach the cable to your linkage and it has to be in the right spot. you can buy a little thing that will go through one of the holes and then has a nut on the other side to hold it in and the cable would attach but if you have the money or cna get it i would strongly sugjext getting the kit. it is not worth trying to barly/maybe get it right and spend 1500 in a month to fix your trans. the TV cable system can take out your trans in probably a matter of hours if its not setup right. but if you know how to adust it then you should probably be fine.
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