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What created everything around us? THINK BIG


TheScientist
06-10-2004, 10:51 PM
WHat exactly created everything around us, besides stars, emmitting gases and elements, and gravity compressing them forming planets? How about thinking bigger, like, who or what ever created energy, what created space, absolutely nothing, no matter or mass, what created the thing, space, what is it actually besides nothing? WHat put space where it is right now? This is when science is does not become a factor in this. What ever created the materials that formed the first stars? I mean, these are things that we will never be able to answer. Almost everything we were educated on, about our existence is only in the perspective of us, human beings. We are too conservative on how to propose how everything came to existence, and we havent thought on a larger scale, of our much larger surroundings. WE never looked at the bigger picture, farther than the stars creating our planets.

We are educated, on what only human beings believed brings us to where we are today. Im not saying theres another source of finding all the answers. I was just thinking big,

Ill come up with more thoughts later, as i gather them because half of them were lost when my mom began bitching.

Please forgive if i may have contradicted my own thoughts, and used wrong vocab, cuz i just thought of this when i was takin gmy 20 min shower.

2strokebloke
06-10-2004, 10:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that it was Big Boy (the burger guy) who created everything.
http://www.vonsattic.com/images/Big_Boy_doll.jpg
Mmmmmmm, delicous ground beef based universe.
But seriously folks...

lazysmurff
06-10-2004, 11:57 PM
im going with an "i dont know" followed bya very quick "i couldnt care less"

brianneves
06-11-2004, 12:44 AM
i will have to take a religious standpoint and say that i think god is quite litterally everything. he is all matter all energy and all knowledge that could ever exist. think of it this way. all the stars in the universe will eventually burn out and all matter will eventually release all of its energy and everything would be in caos and disorder just floating around (the end of the universe). this would also insinuate that there was a beginning where everything was ordered perfectly. the odds of the entire universe being ordered perfectly is impossibly high. this is how the bible states it that the universe was created perfect and over time it will lose all order and be destroyed and in the book of revalations god said that he will make a "new heavens and a new earth"

i am open to discussion on this subject if you have questions or propositions......

TheScientist
06-11-2004, 01:53 PM
i will have to take a religious standpoint and say that i think god is quite litterally everything. he is all matter all energy and all knowledge that could ever exist. think of it this way. all the stars in the universe will eventually burn out and all matter will eventually release all of its energy and everything would be in caos and disorder just floating around (the end of the universe). this would also insinuate that there was a beginning where everything was ordered perfectly. the odds of the entire universe being ordered perfectly is impossibly high. this is how the bible states it that the universe was created perfect and over time it will lose all order and be destroyed and in the book of revalations god said that he will make a "new heavens and a new earth"

i am open to discussion on this subject if you have questions or propositions......

Still under a beliefs of human beings. What about the, truth and logic of the stand point? thats the part thats tough.

Little_Stang87
06-11-2004, 10:50 PM
It would take forever for me to type what i really think about this. It could be god...it could have been a few tiny particles out in space and BOOM life was birthed.

ghetto7o2azn
06-11-2004, 11:25 PM
im with the "big boy theory"

if god created the universe, then where did god come from? im not a religious person, so maybe it says it in the bible, and wherever god came from, where did that come from... it never ends does it... i tend to save me the trouble of these types of questions that we will never figure out in my life time... we havent even sent anything out of our solar system yet (actually i dont think we have sent anything past neptune), and then there are billions of solar systems in our galaxy, and then u look even further, and there are billions of galaxies with billions of other solar systems and already ur asking where it came from...

Jimster
06-11-2004, 11:26 PM
Who fucking cares???


No-one is ever going to be right about human creation and what we don't know can't hurt us...

youngvr4
06-11-2004, 11:42 PM
either mass or god or both is so far beyond us, we simply can't understand because as humans all we know is beggining and end. we all seek reason wich seperates us from god and or mass, gasses and elements that go on. our little brains arent strong enough to really understand how something could always be here, ALWAYS. wether science or relegion is your beleive, you'll never be able to understand its works form beggining to end. :2cents:

Jay!
06-12-2004, 08:07 PM
This thread presupposes creation. What if nothing was created, ever? What if everything there is, always has been, just in different forms?

Fully_Sick
06-12-2004, 10:33 PM
If your so curious take some LSD, then figure it out!





peace
p.s: advice given by this person may be bullshit.

raysoh8
06-13-2004, 02:08 AM
You think too much..

DGB454
06-13-2004, 05:57 AM
This thread presupposes creation. What if nothing was created, ever? What if everything there is, always has been, just in different forms?

If that's true then shouldn't that be observable somewhere else in the universe. Shouldn't scientist be able to test it under controlled conditions?

Jay!
06-13-2004, 07:59 PM
If that's true then shouldn't that be observable somewhere else in the universe. Shouldn't scientist be able to test it under controlled conditions?Is that not what we already observe? Do we have any evidence of something coming from nothing? Or vice versa?

MunG35
06-13-2004, 08:01 PM
it was the big bang... the mass orgy of gods and the matter of our universe is made up of well... u get the idea...

Soyo
06-14-2004, 12:41 AM
who is big boy? never seen that little fella in my life

DGB454
06-14-2004, 04:45 AM
Is that not what we already observe? Do we have any evidence of something coming from nothing? Or vice versa?

Then what other form did life have?

lamehonda
06-15-2004, 01:16 PM
God, if you think that you could have created the universe please feel free to question this. otherwise, put the puny human brain down before someone gets hurt.

RSX-S777
06-15-2004, 05:19 PM
Life. Spend more time enjoying it and less time trying to pin it's supposed meaning and unfathomable origin under your finger.

Jay!
06-15-2004, 06:56 PM
Then what other form did life have?
Is life a thing?

DGB454
06-16-2004, 05:14 AM
Life is a state of a thing. Life had to have come from somewhere. I was under the understanding that only life could beget life.

lazysmurff
06-16-2004, 08:53 AM
so your saying God is alive?

CarSuperfreak
06-16-2004, 08:59 AM
yea.

Since there is a lot of assumed evidence about the end of the universe, and since the 2nd law of thermodynamics states that all things tend towards a state of decay, that immediatly assumes that there was a beginning as well, when all things were not decayed at all. Such a beginning could have only been brought about by the supernatural, a Supreme God.

DGB454
06-16-2004, 09:07 AM
so your saying God is alive?

I didn't mention God. (yet) Don't jump ahead of me. :)

lazysmurff
06-16-2004, 10:08 AM
gah.....

*waiting*

Jay!
06-16-2004, 02:28 PM
Life is a state of a thing. Life had to have come from somewhere. I was under the understanding that only life could beget life.I think that's off the topic of this thread. At least, as I understood the topic, it was about the source of all the "stuff" (matter and/or energy, or perhaps the sum total of both) in the "universe" (and beyond?), regardless of whether it was "alive" or not.

TheScientist
06-16-2004, 07:02 PM
I think that's off the topic of this thread. At least, as I understood the topic, it was about the source of all the "stuff" (matter and/or energy, or perhaps the sum total of both) in the "universe" (and beyond?), regardless of whether it was "alive" or not.

Life in our eyes, is only in belief and perspective of our eyes. but it's partially related to the topic.

DGB454
06-17-2004, 10:31 AM
so your saying God is alive?

Ok I won't jump off topic too much. Am I saying God is alive?
I'll just say He's not dead.

Jay!
06-17-2004, 12:25 PM
Life in our eyes, is only in belief and perspective of our eyes. but it's partially related to the topic.
Okay, what? :wtf:

Draw me a picture, please.

tacoma man.
06-17-2004, 04:42 PM
i now some one who thinks this is the matrix.
he is a damn dumb ass. he psyced out after
seeing that movie. he thinks we live in a computer
generated world. he started talking that yesterday
and i told him if he didnt shut up i was going to slap
the piss out of him

Soyo
06-18-2004, 01:09 AM
this is just totally confusing... BAH!!!!!!!!!! make it stop!!!

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