ZTT engine swap! why?

I had my 96ztt for about 4months know and it drives great. so far my upgrades are an under drive pulley and the pop charger from JWT. is fast for me but in the future i plan to do and exhaust and chip. but my question is, so far in this forum i read of people wanting to do engine swaps. why would some one try to get rid of their ztt engine a get a diffent engine like and RB or even the 350Z engine. isn't the ZTT engine better since its twin turbo in stock form or am i missing something here. let me know what yall think.

i would never swap a different engine for a vg. i guess people want a bigger engine with the vq and i guess people have seen more rb's with higher horsepower so they think that the rb is better than the vg. but i will stick with my vg.

Mostly its the guys with Non-Turbos...

I almost went RB20DET for my first Zed back when the VG went... I didnt feel like throwing in the fabrication hours. So I just repaired the VG, and sold it.

-Wes

eww swap a VG, that should be outlawed (unless its taking out your N/A VG to replace with TTVG)

What the hell are you talking about?

-Wes

i think he is talking about swapping a vg30de for a vg30dett.

... *ackward Silence* ....

His statement just made no sense at all... Just read it. Slowly. It still doesnt make any sense.

-Wes

It still sounds reasonably complicated to swap the NA for the TT, not to mention the car is not original anymore. Surely you can still get good numbers out of an moded NA.

to TT or not TT

Well frankly, no matter what you do to an NA (pulleys, intake, exhaust, chip, nothing too extreme or expensive) and barring supercharging you won't get the numbers that a stock TT does.

Besides with an intake, exhaust and chip a TT can get close to 400 at the crank.

And its a hell of alot less work for the basic TT mods rather then half rebuild your NA.


But whatever...toys are meant to be enjoyed so do what you wish :)


A modded NA with a good shot of nitrous would be pretty quick.

Twin Turbo is just way too much nut for me... And any other kid in my opinion. I've driven both, and trust me kids... Twin Turbo is WAY too much Horse Power for an under experienced driver.

I love my Non-Turbo, it still moves quick as hell, and insurance doesnt kill me. Perfect car in my opinion.

-Wes

AAhhh, but there inlies the beauty, if you have a NA ZX like me, then swap it for a turbo, your insurance doesn't go up! As long as you don't tell them.

Bogy

why would some one try to get rid of their ztt engine a get a diffent engine like and RB or even the 350Z engine. isn't the ZTT engine better since its twin turbo in stock form or am i missing something here. let me know what yall think.

Some people just have their own preferences.

The RB is available with twin turbos in stock form as well, but it does like to rev more than the VG. Again, some might prefer the revs, feeling that it is more sporty.

The 350Z's VQ V6 is much lighter than the VG. A 300ZX with one would probably have a similar or better power to weight ratio than a stock turbo model, and better handling/weight distribution. The VQ can be boosted as well, and will have a torque advantage due to the extra displacement. A sleeved VQ could probably exceed even a built VG as far as outright power potential goes.

I like the VQ35DE idea.

What else would we expect from VQuick... Straight info, to the point, haha.

I would say swap in RB26DETT, but emissions is where you run into problems.

RB25DET would be PERFECT for a Z32. But VQ's would be a much better weight to power ration.

Pesonally... VQ would be much more effecient, and MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to work on than VG.

In my opinion, of course.

-Wes

Pesonally... VQ would be much more effecient, and MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to work on than VG.


After the countless hours and dollars of custom fab and trial and error of course...and provided none of those custom parts break...and nothing in the wiring and programing decides to act up...then it might be easier after that...maybe...

Umm... Ok.

It would be no more difficult than an RB into a 240 swap.

It has been done, and without many problems. I like VQ's for their major efficiency plus over the VG's.

VQ's are not that hard to work on... VG's on the other hand... N'uff said.

Anyone who has ever torn down a VG knows how incredibly hard they are to work on.

I think if it came down to it... RB25DET, or VQ35DE would be a tough choice. Personal preference is what it would basically come down to.

Granted, RB's can produce power a lot more easily. But VQ's have much greater low-end, more consistant power.

Just my opinion.

-Wes

A RB in a 240 is practically bolt in. If you are going to swap in a RB26 then you have to go to a single turbo instead of a twin but other than that it will pretty much mate up with the 240.

I have both a 240 and a 300. They aren't all that much alike under the hood.

Swapping a I6 into a I4 car is much different then swapping it into a V6 car.

VGs aren't that bad to work on. Not for the power they provide and being the stock motor in a 300Z, they are a damn sight easier to work on in a 300Z then anything else you source. Even if you upgrade turbos, chip, intake, exhaust, clutch, pistons, connecting rods, and etc in a VG...its still 80% stock. Stock is always easiest to work on. Atleast with stock I can look in one book and figure out what the hell is wrong because everything is where is should be. I don't have to be going back and forth between an engine book and car book, trying to hunt down a problem that will most likely be a compatablity issue.

And yes, I just pulled the VG out of my Z and am getting the new one in once I get money for some go fast parts. It isn't that bad.

I despise working on VG's... Haha. HATE, I am using HATE correctly here.

And Inline6 is much easier to swap into an Inline4, you have that correct.

But I have seen motors such as RB26 in a Zed... Get this one... CA18DET in a Zed (What the hell?)... 1UZ GTE in a Zed... Countless engines.

No clue why I even put up with my Zed... But man there is just something about that engine winding up... Haha

-Wes

If I were to swap out my engine and I had the money.... I would go RB26DETT... FULL SKYLINR GTR POWER!

I am new to this discussion but if you have an NA which I do you could not go past the Z1 motorsports stage 3 perf package.

http://www.z1motorsports.com/PDFs/Z1RebuiltMotors.pdf

I know its 10g's but that would be one tough NA. and it would be original.

I want 400hp from an NA is that too much to ask for?

Not at all... Non-Turbocharger power is always at your foot... Why not?

-Wes

that is one good thing about n/a power, it is always there. you don't have to wait for the turbos to spool up.

Or you can just get a 12.5 lbs flywheel and ball bearing turbos like me :D

(spool up)
zzzooooo

(1.23 seconds later)
VRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!