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RomainDeaMarchi
06-09-2004, 10:40 PM
i just bought a a'pexi super AFC for my 96 eclipse gs-t and i need help configuring it to my car. I want to set it good enough to get the best performance and boost out of it on my car. Iv read up on it and that it can be adjusted in so many aspects to my car that it confuses me. I dont have a BOV and the instruction manual i got isnt helping me to acutally configure it very well. Its already been installed. If anyone has the same AFC/type of car/same year or anything that can help me configure it and tell what settings they have going would be great. Thanks alot

KevinE326
06-09-2004, 10:51 PM
"my 96 eclipse gs-t" and "I dont have a BOV"

huh? are you ok?

back to your question... I have a link for a afc tuning guide linked on my work pc.. but i actually think if you search the forum on here you'll find it

lot of things determine what though.. such as what injectors you have.. fuel pump

and back to the GST BOV thing... umm... hit gas, shift, hear that noise?

RomainDeaMarchi
06-09-2004, 10:59 PM
I know what a BOV is and im just saying that i dont have one. It mentions tuning to BOV in the instruction manual so i was just nothing thats all.

RomainDeaMarchi
06-09-2004, 11:01 PM
Also, i searched and didnt find anything. Unless someone else can

BoostedSpyder
06-09-2004, 11:44 PM
uhhh... you have to have a BOV if you have a turbo...

RomainDeaMarchi
06-09-2004, 11:47 PM
i ment aftermarket

BoostedSpyder
06-09-2004, 11:52 PM
what is your mod list right now, 100% complete

KevinE326
06-10-2004, 12:13 AM
I know what a BOV is and im just saying that i dont have one. It mentions tuning to BOV in the instruction manual so i was just nothing thats all.


"i ment aftermarket"


ROFL... you got me rolling over here man!

scottsee
06-10-2004, 03:51 AM
goto dsmtuner.com and look in the tunning / tech section, they have a complete guide to tunning it on there..

RattlesnakeGST
06-10-2004, 12:28 PM
Every car is different... you cant use someone elses settings... best to take it to a performance shop so they can set it or someone who for sure knows what theyre doing... Cause you could really mess up your car

92streetgsx
06-10-2004, 08:21 PM
yea seriously man.. dont mess with it unless you knwo what yourdoing... i had to get my afc cause my bov is vented to the atmosphere, so i had to set it so that my car doesnt stall out when i clutch for a few seconds or throw it into nuetral.. you shouldnt really need one if ur still runnin a stock set up but sooner or later its good to get one...

BoostedSpyder
06-10-2004, 09:51 PM
yea seriously man.. dont mess with it unless you knwo what yourdoing... i had to get my afc cause my bov is vented to the atmosphere, so i had to set it so that my car doesnt stall out when i clutch for a few seconds or throw it into nuetral.. you shouldnt really need one if ur still runnin a stock set up but sooner or later its good to get one...

that is why i asked for a mod list, to see if he even needs the thing or not...

FourG63 97GST
06-11-2004, 01:53 PM
lotta edumacation in this thread

LandoAWD
06-11-2004, 02:14 PM
i had to get my afc cause my bov is vented to the atmosphere, so i had to set it so that my car doesnt stall out when i clutch for a few seconds or throw it into nuetral..
:lol:

92streetgsx
06-11-2004, 02:37 PM
damn, everyon got jokes.... i guess ppl who think there car is the shit think they can look down on ones who aint at that point.... i guess every forum has its asses... u laugh at me yet i luagh at ur cocky ass.. P.S. lasers are an excuse of a DSM

LandoAWD
06-11-2004, 02:40 PM
damn, everyon got jokes.... i guess ppl who think there car is the shit think they can look down on ones who aint at that point.... i guess every forum has its asses... u laugh at me yet i luagh at ur cocky ass.. P.S. lasers are an excuse of a DSM
You don't understand how an AFC works, yet you flap your man-pleasers on what it does for your car.

Shut up, noob.

A laser is identical to your car, so apparently you drive "an excuse of a DSM".

Shut up noob.

As for "looking down" on you, shit DOES fall right to the floor...thus is gravity.

Shut up noob.

:lol:

RiceRocket18
06-11-2004, 02:41 PM
calm down streetgsx, he was just messing with you. don't take it too seriously. no one here thinks less of you.

92streetgsx
06-11-2004, 03:23 PM
as far as noob.. im a noob to this forum im not no noob to dsm's.... ild rather drive a mitsubishi gsx thana laser w/ those nasty front bumpersn ghetto wings.. i seen ur car, nothin special.. ild show u pics of my car but i wouldnt want to make u jealous and put your dsm to shame.... 60-1 baby 458 whp on relativly low boost... NOOB

LandoAWD
06-11-2004, 03:26 PM
as far as noob.. im a noob to this forum im not no noob to dsm's.... ild rather drive a mitsubishi gsx thana laser w/ those nasty front bumpersn ghetto wings.. i seen ur car, nothin special.. ild show u pics of my car but i wouldnt want to make u jealous and put your dsm to shame.... 60-1 baby 458 whp on relativly low boost... NOOB
Timeslips, mod-lists, dyno graphs,or pics or you are just another internet bitch who thinks an AFC can change the way metered air is read.

92streetgsx
06-11-2004, 03:30 PM
call me a liar but im not gonna bring myslef donw to ur level of comparsison by showin u jack squat... u started with me first so now sit here n think to urself if you just got clowned by someone who has a car thats better than yours by a long shot n knows more bout dsm's than you do.. as far as me this forum blows and so do the ppl in it.. MY last post is your an ASSHOLE with a p-o-s CAR that has stock engine with nothin but a front mount to look fast... so enjoy ur car and update pics when u go BIG.... PEACE

RiceRocket18
06-11-2004, 03:41 PM
DUDE!!... don't stereotype. that's not cool!!

RiceRocket18
06-11-2004, 03:43 PM
look what you've done lando, scared another one away :slap:

FourG63 97GST
06-11-2004, 03:43 PM
:smile:

LandoAWD
06-11-2004, 03:44 PM
call me a liar but im not gonna bring myslef donw to ur level of comparsison by showin u jack squat... u started with me first so now sit here n think to urself if you just got clowned by someone who has a car thats better than yours by a long shot n knows more bout dsm's than you do.. as far as me this forum blows and so do the ppl in it.. MY last post is your an ASSHOLE with a p-o-s CAR that has stock engine with nothin but a front mount to look fast... so enjoy ur car and update pics when u go BIG.... PEACE
:rofl: I bet you are 12 and your mommy drives you to "special school".

Good luck with your imaginary car. Perhaps you should consider a career a a psychic since you can see under my hood. ;)

LandoAWD
06-11-2004, 03:46 PM
look what you've done lando, scared another one away :slap:
I'm not here to make friends, though I like alot of you, I'm here to make sure incorrect information is not spread furthur, and to help with problems where I can.

I posted " :lol: " and this fucking joker comes at me guns blazing.

So be it.

92streetgsx
06-11-2004, 03:55 PM
no one likes cocky car enthusiasts... accordin to rice rocket u do this to alot of ppl.. maybe u should be a lil more considerat for the next "noob" to join this forum.. or keep this up and stay unliked by many ppl. good luck with ur car... im out.. maybe ill see you at an event or something, and if we race, ill make sure i slow down after i pass u so u can kiss my ass
<^>(-_-)<^>

LandoAWD
06-11-2004, 03:58 PM
no one likes cocky car enthusiasts... accordin to rice rocket u do this to alot of ppl.. maybe u should be a lil more considerat for the next "noob" to join this forum.. or keep this up and stay unliked by many ppl. good luck with ur car... im out.. maybe ill see you at an event or something, and if we race, ill make sure i slow down after i pass u so u can kiss my ass
<^>(-_-)<^>
Nobody like knoobie fucking idiots who spread false info. I give respect where respect is due, and the statement I laughed at you for deserved NONE. Do you understand how a Karmann MAS works? An AFC? Surely you must with 400+ Hp (bullshit), so why make statements that will confuse others?

You can find me in NC anytime.

Edit: At most, I have "scared off" 3 morons...you included.

92streetgsx
06-11-2004, 04:03 PM
yea yea yea.. u suck at life.. i quit this forum, dont got time to fight withsomeone over stupid shit.. my car has 92 hp ur right..... but ur a clown who has a way to big of an ego wiht an ugly ass car.. find a clif.. build up boost n drive that pos right off it... harness in while ur at it.... im done.. lata

Import2nr99
06-11-2004, 04:18 PM
such hostility. why can't we all just be freinds? well, we can't... cause then I"d be out of a job. Just out of morbid curiousity, why do people find it necessary to threaten online? when I say "I'll kick your ass" or, "I'll beat you in a race" or even "I'll cut your throat and pull your tongue out the hole" I highly doubt anyone feels the slightest bit frightened. why you ask? because they are words, text, nothingness. So, on the same note, when someone makes a pretty little face laughing at you, why get pissed? it's a face... laghing at a comment you made. there's no reason to go apeshit and get into a cock measuring contest. It's just plain dumb. the forum is here to spead intelligence, not retardation. While Lando's car may not be the most cosmetically appealing ride out there, he still knows his shit. read any of his posts and you will find a wealth of knowledge that vastly exceeds my own. You, are new here. so, when you spout off with false information, we expect that you are a noob to the car world and you are scoffed and scorned. Comming back with "my car has 6 bazillion trillion HP and does the 1/4 in mach 27... but I"m not showing you any pics" is not the way to gain respect. You brought it on yourself. Don't get pissy. if you don't like us, or the forum. start a better one. But as for now, if you could simply take a chill pill, stop the roids, or remove the dead carcass from your ass and become a civil human being and spread YOUR amazing wealth of knowledge you claim to have... then we'd be more than happy to have you. There you have it. My take on the subject. Feel free to make scary threats and tell me I'm an assclown. I need a good laugh anyway

guitarXgeek
06-11-2004, 04:22 PM
:owned:

LandoAWD
06-11-2004, 04:26 PM
such hostility. why can't we all just be freinds? well, we can't... cause then I"d be out of a job. Just out of morbid curiousity, why do people find it necessary to threaten online? when I say "I'll kick your ass" or, "I'll beat you in a race" or even "I'll cut your throat and pull your tongue out the hole" I highly doubt anyone feels the slightest bit frightened. why you ask? because they are words, text, nothingness. So, on the same note, when someone makes a pretty little face laughing at you, why get pissed? it's a face... laghing at a comment you made. there's no reason to go apeshit and get into a cock measuring contest. It's just plain dumb. the forum is here to spead intelligence, not retardation. While Lando's car may not be the most cosmetically appealing ride out there, he still knows his shit. read any of his posts and you will find a wealth of knowledge that vastly exceeds my own. You, are new here. so, when you spout off with false information, we expect that you are a noob to the car world and you are scoffed and scorned. Comming back with "my car has 6 bazillion trillion HP and does the 1/4 in mach 27... but I"m not showing you any pics" is not the way to gain respect. You brought it on yourself. Don't get pissy. if you don't like us, or the forum. start a better one. But as for now, if you could simply take a chill pill, stop the roids, or remove the dead carcass from your ass and become a civil human being and spread YOUR amazing wealth of knowledge you claim to have... then we'd be more than happy to have you. There you have it. My take on the subject. Feel free to make scary threats and tell me I'm an assclown. I need a good laugh anyway
:dogpile: :bigthumb:

FourG63 97GST
06-11-2004, 05:06 PM
that was great :bigthumb: :iceslolan

teh post of teh day :grinno:

ashah000
06-11-2004, 09:24 PM
such hostility. why can't we all just be freinds? well, we can't... cause then I"d be out of a job. Just out of morbid curiousity, why do people find it necessary to threaten online? when I say "I'll kick your ass" or, "I'll beat you in a race" or even "I'll cut your throat and pull your tongue out the hole" I highly doubt anyone feels the slightest bit frightened. why you ask? because they are words, text, nothingness. So, on the same note, when someone makes a pretty little face laughing at you, why get pissed? it's a face... laghing at a comment you made. there's no reason to go apeshit and get into a cock measuring contest. It's just plain dumb. the forum is here to spead intelligence, not retardation. While Lando's car may not be the most cosmetically appealing ride out there, he still knows his shit. read any of his posts and you will find a wealth of knowledge that vastly exceeds my own. You, are new here. so, when you spout off with false information, we expect that you are a noob to the car world and you are scoffed and scorned. Comming back with "my car has 6 bazillion trillion HP and does the 1/4 in mach 27... but I"m not showing you any pics" is not the way to gain respect. You brought it on yourself. Don't get pissy. if you don't like us, or the forum. start a better one. But as for now, if you could simply take a chill pill, stop the roids, or remove the dead carcass from your ass and become a civil human being and spread YOUR amazing wealth of knowledge you claim to have... then we'd be more than happy to have you. There you have it. My take on the subject. Feel free to make scary threats and tell me I'm an assclown. I need a good laugh anyway

That was awesome :lol2:

92streetgsx
06-12-2004, 01:17 AM
yea, ok, as far as me bein a dick was wrong but the fact is i didnt spread one bit of false information. i was just stating that when i was new wiht my car and all i had done was a after market bov that wasnt revented i 1st got my afc and said but later on down the road after bigger mods ur gonna need one "true information", i said he wouldnt need one if his car was boen stock, n most cars that still have stock bov's mostly have just exhausts done or pretty much nothing at all, so it just pisses me off that some guy had to put a luaghin face casue i todl the kid dont mess wiht it unles he knows what it does cause he could mess somethign up, simpel answer to the guy who didnt knwo how to work it, no sense in gettin all technical with him if its just gonan turn out gibberish to him, right or wrong? so as far as u go for laughin at me makes no sense wut so ever, its just dumb in my opinion and on ur behalf, yea ok u meant nothin by it but there was no reason for it wutso ever n im quick to fly off the handle to ppl who try to be better than others simply by whats they drive and what they know... take what u want of it but i aint tryin to add more fuel to the fire.. thats all...

92streetgsx
06-12-2004, 01:27 AM
also... to stick up for the ppl who are new to the car world.. no one is born with the information and knowledge of cars, all of you started out from knowin jack shit as well as myself, but if i was a noob and joined this forum to learn i woudl think twice cause i see the car world as a bunch of cocky ppl who think their rides way exceeds others... so for future "noob" have a lil respect for them casue they gotta start out somewhere too, theres no need to make fun...

LandoAWD
06-12-2004, 12:00 PM
Glad to see you found my point.

92streetgsx
06-12-2004, 02:00 PM
its funy how this forum is supposed to be about the afc and wut not and the past 30 posts have been us fightin bout garbage, so lets just cut the bs n forget it.. agree??

kjewer1
06-12-2004, 02:11 PM
Damn, someone couldve just told the guy he needs a datalogger to properly set the AFC :lol:

Its hard to figure out what the actual question was in all that noise, but with a datalogger you can set up an AFC. Running at the track or the dyno will help you know if you are indeed going in the right direction or not. Kyle T wrote up a decent article on AFC tuning. You should be able to find it on tuners, or www.racingknowledge.org. Ah, here it is:

http://www.racingknowledge.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1011

But its going to assume you have a logger. Most poeple do www.pocketlogger.com, but there are others. TMO logger for 1Gs, and other OBD2 loggers for 2Gs. I used pocketlogger for years. If you have an EPROM ECU (you have a 96 if I remember, so you wont unless you buy one) go with www.dsmlink.com. Even if you dont use these things, check out the websites anyway, lots of good info there.

If you went to larger injectors, let me know what they are and I can get you some rough settings to make the car run right. Also, I think there was something about venting BOVs? Be aware that the AFC can not help with venting BOVs on Karmen vortex type cars. So it wont help you there. Leave it dumped back in for now, there are other solutions you can learn about later.

IF you are having toruble understanding the manual (often in japanese), I Can try to give you the setup information off the top of my head. I havent used an AFC in years though, so I may forget some. Metering type is Karmen Vortex. 4 cylinder of course, TPS voltage rises (arrow up and to the right). Set low/high throttle points to 30 and 80%. There may be more in the link I posted above at RKO.

Good luck.

RomainDeaMarchi
06-14-2004, 10:12 AM
Haha..glad to see my post got so much feedback..i guess :p. ANYWAYS..as i was saying, haha. Here is the mod list. I forgot to check back on this post, sorry guys. If anyone could still help that would be great. Thanks for the links too everyone, i'll take a look.

Extreme D.I.S. Filter
Extreme Stainless Upper Intercooler Pipe
1G BOV
2.5" downpipe
Thermal Research and Development 3" Stainless Cat-back exhaust
Dime Store Fuel Cut Defencer
K&N Crankcase Breather
Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch
Short Throw Shift kit
NGK BPR6ES Plugs
Magnacor 8.5mm Plug Wires
Extreme XBC boost controller
16G TD05 turbo
Apexi Super AFC
RC Engineering 550cc injectors
Digital Boost Gauge
Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge (tells how rich and lean im running)
+ numerous Handling mods (ask if needed)

The rest is basically stock.

RomainDeaMarchi
06-14-2004, 03:02 PM
The link says you need a PDA..can you use the PocketLOGGER for OBDII on a laptop for my 2g?

guitarXgeek
06-14-2004, 03:41 PM
Yes I think you can, but you have to get some kind of linking device that will hook up to the laptop. Someone around here I'm sure knows what it is.

RiceRocket18
06-14-2004, 05:57 PM
dsmparts sell those cables, as well as dsmlink's website.

RomainDeaMarchi
06-14-2004, 10:36 PM
Alright, sounds good. I guess ill have to get that datalogger. I could probably have the previous owner over..he doesnt live far away..to help me tune it. Maybe he has a datalogger i can borrow. Thanks for the help. I'll post back asap when i get it to work. Pictures too

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