Bible Bashing.
primera man
01-22-2002, 04:43 PM
Got a knock on the door 10mins ago which has made me post this thread.
Now i dont want to piss any people here that are religious...thats your bussiness, but what really pisses me off is when bloody MORMON'S turn up at your house and want to start ramming there bloody veiws down ya throat. If i wanted to be a Mormon or be religious i'd go to church on a frickin Sunday :mad: :mad: So i very nicely asked them to piss off.
Maybe i should go knocking on there doors with all my family and bro's and tell them to became a petrolhead like me and start ramming my veiws down there throats.
Pissed off PMan. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Now i dont want to piss any people here that are religious...thats your bussiness, but what really pisses me off is when bloody MORMON'S turn up at your house and want to start ramming there bloody veiws down ya throat. If i wanted to be a Mormon or be religious i'd go to church on a frickin Sunday :mad: :mad: So i very nicely asked them to piss off.
Maybe i should go knocking on there doors with all my family and bro's and tell them to became a petrolhead like me and start ramming my veiws down there throats.
Pissed off PMan. :mad: :mad: :mad:
nick89escort
01-22-2002, 04:46 PM
I keep getting knocks at the door from these people aswell, they are to fast, and have there foot in the door before I can close it :eek: :mad:
darkness
01-22-2002, 04:52 PM
yeah I have no problem with people being religious but I hate being preach to and told I'm going to hell because I don't believe in god.
As far as they are concerned, they are preaching to the devil himself because I'm not going to join them.
As far as they are concerned, they are preaching to the devil himself because I'm not going to join them.
KatWoman
01-22-2002, 04:54 PM
I am Christian and I agree with you. I know I have my flaws and am not perfect, so I have no room to tell everyone 'Turn or burn'. The Bible says to "spread the good news" but it does not say shove it down people's throats and knock on every door.
My way of "witnessing" if ya wanna call it that, is if someone is interested in the way I believe, I will let them come to me and ask questions and do my best to answer. But I cannot go telling people how they should live when I have my own sins :devil:
The other hard part is that Mormons (and other religions) want to get into a debate on why they are right. And a lot of them cut you off, interupt and just become more of a thorn in the side. I guess many believe if you are aggressive and pushy enough it will convince people you are right.
But with the way some people (any religion) push their beliefs and get too pushy, I can see why others don't want to respond to it.
<zippping on flame-proof suit>
My way of "witnessing" if ya wanna call it that, is if someone is interested in the way I believe, I will let them come to me and ask questions and do my best to answer. But I cannot go telling people how they should live when I have my own sins :devil:
The other hard part is that Mormons (and other religions) want to get into a debate on why they are right. And a lot of them cut you off, interupt and just become more of a thorn in the side. I guess many believe if you are aggressive and pushy enough it will convince people you are right.
But with the way some people (any religion) push their beliefs and get too pushy, I can see why others don't want to respond to it.
<zippping on flame-proof suit>
MattyG
01-22-2002, 04:55 PM
Yeah thats a pet hate of mine too.
Actually had quite a good visit from the local minister once, he had a survey for me to fill out. It asked sorts of question like what sort of activities would get me along to the local church, and what currently puts me off going to the church. Stuff like that. It was a nice change from having books waved in my face.
Actually had quite a good visit from the local minister once, he had a survey for me to fill out. It asked sorts of question like what sort of activities would get me along to the local church, and what currently puts me off going to the church. Stuff like that. It was a nice change from having books waved in my face.
Spec2 Girl
01-22-2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by primera man
Maybe i should go knocking on there doors with all my family and bro's and tell them to became a petrolhead like me and start ramming my veiws down there throats.
Pissed off PMan. :mad: :mad: :mad: What a great idea Pman!! Maybe I’ll try that one next time they come knocking!! :hehehe:
The other option is to wear Megadeth and Slayer T-shirts. That’d scare ‘em off! :p :hehehe:
Maybe i should go knocking on there doors with all my family and bro's and tell them to became a petrolhead like me and start ramming my veiws down there throats.
Pissed off PMan. :mad: :mad: :mad: What a great idea Pman!! Maybe I’ll try that one next time they come knocking!! :hehehe:
The other option is to wear Megadeth and Slayer T-shirts. That’d scare ‘em off! :p :hehehe:
enginerd
01-22-2002, 04:57 PM
Let me first say that I'm a Christian. But for giggles, one time I expounded on the virtues of atheism for about 30 minutes to two Jehovah's Witnesses. They left, somewhat bewildered.:)
KatWoman
01-22-2002, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by FTO Girl
The other option is to wear Megadeth and Slayer T-shirts. That’d scare ‘em off! :p :hehehe:
That......or it may just open up the doors for even more debate.
The other option is to wear Megadeth and Slayer T-shirts. That’d scare ‘em off! :p :hehehe:
That......or it may just open up the doors for even more debate.
darkness
01-22-2002, 05:00 PM
i had bright orange hair once and a "Sex is the best drug" T shirt and some mormons came to the door. The look on their face was classic.
Heep
01-22-2002, 05:17 PM
I have to agree with Kat. I'm Christian, and yes, our beliefs are quite a lot different from Mormon's/JW's, despite what they try to lead you to believe. Like Kat, I'll do my best in the way I act to let people realize I'm different, and if they have questions, I'm certainly open to them. But I get pissed off at the Mormon's/JW's as well. I've already looked into their religion and seen what they believe, and decided against it. To me, they are just like people that would come and literally push me into buying a Lada, when I've already decided against it. I also would have no problem at all with them if they simply knocked on the door, asked if I would like to know more about their religion, and depending on my answer, continued, or politely said "Thanks for your time", turned around and walked away. Instead, they shove their foot in your door, and refuse to leave. I swear, one of these days I'm going to report them for harrassment, or even trespassing if even half of their foot comes into my house unwelcome.
Problem is, it's always a win win situation for them. If they convert you, hooray. If they get shuned, they are being persectued for their beliefs, which to them also = hooray.
The only way you can really win is to do what my pastor does: politely invite them in, give them coffee, then stump them/prove them wrong :p:p Most of them REALLY know their stuff though, so you basically have to be a pastor/missionary in order to know enough to stump them...
Problem is, it's always a win win situation for them. If they convert you, hooray. If they get shuned, they are being persectued for their beliefs, which to them also = hooray.
The only way you can really win is to do what my pastor does: politely invite them in, give them coffee, then stump them/prove them wrong :p:p Most of them REALLY know their stuff though, so you basically have to be a pastor/missionary in order to know enough to stump them...
Sham365
01-22-2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by primera man
Got a knock on the door 10mins ago which has made me post this thread...
Man, till this day every time I see two dudes coming my way on mountain bikes wearing black slacks, white shirts and black ties I suddenly become very interested in the cracks on the sidewalk - across the street.
LOL!
Got a knock on the door 10mins ago which has made me post this thread...
Man, till this day every time I see two dudes coming my way on mountain bikes wearing black slacks, white shirts and black ties I suddenly become very interested in the cracks on the sidewalk - across the street.
LOL!
ales
01-22-2002, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by KatWoman
That......or it may just open up the doors for even more debate.
Then a Marilyn Manson T-shirt, just to make sure :)
That......or it may just open up the doors for even more debate.
Then a Marilyn Manson T-shirt, just to make sure :)
Heep
01-22-2002, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by ales
Then a Marilyn Manson T-shirt, just to make sure :)
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
Then a Marilyn Manson T-shirt, just to make sure :)
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
darkness
01-22-2002, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Heep
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
no a bloody sacrificial knife:D
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
no a bloody sacrificial knife:D
S Brake
01-22-2002, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by primera man
bloody MORMONS*snowboarder very quietly tip toes out of the thread*
bloody MORMONS*snowboarder very quietly tip toes out of the thread*
ales
01-22-2002, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Heep
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
Hell yeah! :):):)
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
Hell yeah! :):):)
Heep
01-22-2002, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by snowboarder927
*snowboarder very quietly tip toes out of the thread*
Lol, I was wondering what you'd think...sorry, just giving my honest opinion :(
*snowboarder very quietly tip toes out of the thread*
Lol, I was wondering what you'd think...sorry, just giving my honest opinion :(
Jimster
01-22-2002, 06:09 PM
I can't stand them barstards and to my knowledge they don't like me either, mainly because I constantly make a mockery out of them, every time they come (And that is often :mad::()
YogsVR4
01-22-2002, 06:41 PM
I can see you getting ticked like you would a telemarketer. I try and be nice the first time and ask them never to come back (or call). If they stop by (or call) a second time. They will learn what a mean and nasty bastard I can really be.
Dustin_S
01-22-2002, 07:20 PM
agree w/ Katwoman here.
I play in a christian band, and that band has earned me a pretty good living and more than a few friends.
I believe, but I know a lot of people don't believe or don't want to believe. My best friend is a non believe, and we both know where the other stands.
I play in a christian band, and that band has earned me a pretty good living and more than a few friends.
I believe, but I know a lot of people don't believe or don't want to believe. My best friend is a non believe, and we both know where the other stands.
Polygon
01-22-2002, 08:25 PM
Well as long as they don't shove their belives down my throat or make fun of my believes then I don't mind. As long as they go packing when I tell em' I don't have a problem.
Being LDS, they should have asked if you had any interest and you said no they should have thanked you for your time and left. I hate it when people give other people a bad name.
Being LDS, they should have asked if you had any interest and you said no they should have thanked you for your time and left. I hate it when people give other people a bad name.
Gonthrax
01-22-2002, 08:45 PM
I think that it's great that they have somthing to believe in and believe in it strongly. I think it's even greater that they want to spread that belief to others. But the way in which they do it goes agianst everything that any book of any god says. That said I must digress into somthing funny that me and my old collage room mate did. We had some vietnamese people living in the apartment below us and they were unbeleavable assholes. They would come up and knock on our door at like 7:30 in the evening saying that our TV/Music was to loud when it really wasn't, then one day one of their relitaves came to the door wanting to talk to us about Budda, I politely told them that we were not interested. The very next day I heard a knock at the door and when I look through the peephole it was the same people. Now you know the little elephant bowls that they feed elephants out of? Well I have one of those so I come to the door... Naked, eating frosted mini-wheats out of the bowl and say in the nicest tone of voice ever, "May I help you?"
Rofl, the look on their face as the looked from the bowl in my hand to my face to my crotch was the funnies thing I have ever seen. I wish I had had a camera:D
Rofl, the look on their face as the looked from the bowl in my hand to my face to my crotch was the funnies thing I have ever seen. I wish I had had a camera:D
S Brake
01-22-2002, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Polygon
Being LDSI didn't think that people knew us by LDS or even know what that stands for.
Being LDSI didn't think that people knew us by LDS or even know what that stands for.
2001 AE
01-22-2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by KatWoman
I am Christian and I agree with you. I know I have my flaws and am not perfect, so I have no room to tell everyone 'Turn or burn'. The Bible says to "spread the good news" but it does not say shove it down people's throats and knock on every door.
My way of "witnessing" if ya wanna call it that, is if someone is interested in the way I believe, I will let them come to me and ask questions and do my best to answer. But I cannot go telling people how they should live when I have my own sins :devil:
The other hard part is that Mormons (and other religions) want to get into a debate on why they are right. And a lot of them cut you off, interupt and just become more of a thorn in the side. I guess many believe if you are aggressive and pushy enough it will convince people you are right.
But with the way some people (any religion) push their beliefs and get too pushy, I can see why others don't want to respond to it.
<zippping on flame-proof suit>
Very well put :)
I am Christian and I agree with you. I know I have my flaws and am not perfect, so I have no room to tell everyone 'Turn or burn'. The Bible says to "spread the good news" but it does not say shove it down people's throats and knock on every door.
My way of "witnessing" if ya wanna call it that, is if someone is interested in the way I believe, I will let them come to me and ask questions and do my best to answer. But I cannot go telling people how they should live when I have my own sins :devil:
The other hard part is that Mormons (and other religions) want to get into a debate on why they are right. And a lot of them cut you off, interupt and just become more of a thorn in the side. I guess many believe if you are aggressive and pushy enough it will convince people you are right.
But with the way some people (any religion) push their beliefs and get too pushy, I can see why others don't want to respond to it.
<zippping on flame-proof suit>
Very well put :)
MBTN
01-22-2002, 11:53 PM
I'm just WAITING for them to come to my door...:devil:
darkness
01-23-2002, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by MBTN
I'm just WAITING for them to come to my door...:devil:
hehe me too.:devil: :devil:
I'm just WAITING for them to come to my door...:devil:
hehe me too.:devil: :devil:
Jeepguy01
01-23-2002, 12:54 AM
I live in a city (not in Utah) with a higher-than-average Mormon population, and some of my close friends are Mormons.
The way I see their missionary work is that they are insecure. Think about it--if you were secure and sure about your religion and way of life, would you care what other people felt? Do you see the Amish going on missions? No, because they are very content within themselves and their way of life. The Mormons ("Latter-Day Saints") and other religions that do aggressive missionary work obviously need reinforcement from people outside their church.
The way I see it, the LDS church is one of the most successful pyramid schemes in the history of the modern world. For those of you that don't know, a missionary pays for his own mission--not the church. The expense for a mission easily goes into the thousands of dollars. They (Mormons) are also required to pay 10% of their income to the church. Those of you that are familiar with the way pyramid schemes work see how the Mormon church applies. A missionary uses his own money to get other people to join the church so that the church can get more money from the converts. Meanwhile, the fat cats (the Mormon "prophets") are getting rich at the top. And trust me, they're RICH! Supposedly they can forsee the future, but if they could, they would have obviously forseen the unfortunate events of September 11.
My other beef with the Mormon church is the fact that they're racists (they wouldn't let African-Americans or Africans into the church until missionaries started doing work in Africa recently--they saw the money in it) and that their sexists (those of you that know a typical Mormon family know what I'm talking about). But, I think I've talked enough...
The way I see their missionary work is that they are insecure. Think about it--if you were secure and sure about your religion and way of life, would you care what other people felt? Do you see the Amish going on missions? No, because they are very content within themselves and their way of life. The Mormons ("Latter-Day Saints") and other religions that do aggressive missionary work obviously need reinforcement from people outside their church.
The way I see it, the LDS church is one of the most successful pyramid schemes in the history of the modern world. For those of you that don't know, a missionary pays for his own mission--not the church. The expense for a mission easily goes into the thousands of dollars. They (Mormons) are also required to pay 10% of their income to the church. Those of you that are familiar with the way pyramid schemes work see how the Mormon church applies. A missionary uses his own money to get other people to join the church so that the church can get more money from the converts. Meanwhile, the fat cats (the Mormon "prophets") are getting rich at the top. And trust me, they're RICH! Supposedly they can forsee the future, but if they could, they would have obviously forseen the unfortunate events of September 11.
My other beef with the Mormon church is the fact that they're racists (they wouldn't let African-Americans or Africans into the church until missionaries started doing work in Africa recently--they saw the money in it) and that their sexists (those of you that know a typical Mormon family know what I'm talking about). But, I think I've talked enough...
taranaki
01-23-2002, 01:13 AM
I just love this subject....it was the first thread I ever posted on !
here's my post again!:p
How to get revenge on door knocking god-botherers!
This one takes balls,spare time and a deaf ear,but it's worth it!When some nutter,"joey",norman" or other misc. Bible basher comes to your door,invite them in!
Sit them down,be friendly,(you must be worn out, have a cup of tea,yada yada) let them bang on for as long as you can stand (ask the odd quesion,the sillier the better, they lap it up!)be supportive and act interested.If you can stand it ,keep them going for at least two hours .Finally when you have had enough bullshit for one day ,look them straight in the eye and say 'well,thats my good deed for the day '.They will be puzzled.Explain that by holing them up at your place for 2 hours you have prevented them from annoying about 100 of your neighbours.Explain that they are about as popular as haemorrhoids an just as close to an asshole.Wish them good day and thank them for 2 hours of the most entertaining satire you've ever heard.If they are true believers they will be forgiving you before they reach the sidewalk!
here's my post again!:p
How to get revenge on door knocking god-botherers!
This one takes balls,spare time and a deaf ear,but it's worth it!When some nutter,"joey",norman" or other misc. Bible basher comes to your door,invite them in!
Sit them down,be friendly,(you must be worn out, have a cup of tea,yada yada) let them bang on for as long as you can stand (ask the odd quesion,the sillier the better, they lap it up!)be supportive and act interested.If you can stand it ,keep them going for at least two hours .Finally when you have had enough bullshit for one day ,look them straight in the eye and say 'well,thats my good deed for the day '.They will be puzzled.Explain that by holing them up at your place for 2 hours you have prevented them from annoying about 100 of your neighbours.Explain that they are about as popular as haemorrhoids an just as close to an asshole.Wish them good day and thank them for 2 hours of the most entertaining satire you've ever heard.If they are true believers they will be forgiving you before they reach the sidewalk!
Sanchi
01-23-2002, 01:26 AM
:D :D :hehe: :spit: :cwn27: :jump: :lol2: hAHAHAHAHAH thats a good one taranaki.
I just feel sorry for the ppl walking on the street or waiting at a bus stop, and get approched by em bikers. I drive by and im happy im in my car :D :D
I just feel sorry for the ppl walking on the street or waiting at a bus stop, and get approched by em bikers. I drive by and im happy im in my car :D :D
Jeepguy01
01-23-2002, 01:34 AM
LMAO!! I had a music teacher once that invited representatives from all of the major religions to his house. Of course, some people couldn't talk to others, etc...but it turned into a whole big fiasco and everybody was pissed at my music teacher. Kinda hilarious, I think.
-cy-
01-27-2002, 03:41 PM
Religion is something that i don't mind, i believe it is something some people need or want, and some DON'T need it or want it (like me). I was brought up by my parents for me to choose whether i want a religion or not, and i deicded not, and i am happy with that choice. I don't need to believe in a god. The one part of religions i dislike is how closeminded they are (in general). All of my friends are religious (well, almost all) and one day we got to talking about religion. After we discussed it for a bit, and after a bit i got told by 2 or so of them that i was going to hell after i died. That stuff pisses me off. Luckily for me, in my area no one ever goes door to door (b/c its sorta a nice neighborhood, and it would be inappropriate).
tazdev
01-27-2002, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Heep
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
A friend of mine was cleaning his hunting rifle after a weekend in the Kaimanua Forest when some Jehovas Witnesses (spelling?) knocked at his door. He was still in his full hunting kit and had forgotten to put down the rifle. He opened the door, they saw him, shat themselves, and left very very fast.
Needless to say he has never had a problem with them since:D :flipa:
...and a shotgun in your hand :D
A friend of mine was cleaning his hunting rifle after a weekend in the Kaimanua Forest when some Jehovas Witnesses (spelling?) knocked at his door. He was still in his full hunting kit and had forgotten to put down the rifle. He opened the door, they saw him, shat themselves, and left very very fast.
Needless to say he has never had a problem with them since:D :flipa:
MBTN
01-27-2002, 07:49 PM
If they ever come, I'll tell them to get real jobs.:)
Darkwing
01-27-2002, 08:36 PM
well, I don't like the way JW and LDS try to push you around, but they are not all like that. The JW in our area left peacefully when my dad said we were already Catholic believers.
What I simply can't understand though, and I have gotten into a few arguments, is HOW someone can truly believe that there is no God, and that when you die, that's it. Pure finality. I cannot see how that could possibly occur to someone to be correct. I just see far too many clues to the contrary. Can a local athiest here please explain? It is beyond me!!
What I simply can't understand though, and I have gotten into a few arguments, is HOW someone can truly believe that there is no God, and that when you die, that's it. Pure finality. I cannot see how that could possibly occur to someone to be correct. I just see far too many clues to the contrary. Can a local athiest here please explain? It is beyond me!!
MBTN
01-27-2002, 10:09 PM
Let me tell you this. Before you were born, before you physically existed, did you have a spiritual existence? Did you think, have feelings et cetera? No. Before you were born, you were nothing. After you die, why wouldn't the same thing happen? You don't exist anymore.
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