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VQuick
05-14-2001, 11:05 AM
There will be two models of the production RSX. The base model(like the LS and RS) will have the 2L in a 160hp, 141lb-ft version, and there will be a hotter 200hp, 142lb-ft version(like the GS-R). I was kinda puzzled why there was only a 1lb-ft difference in torque. They should have been able to squeeze out more than that.
A long time ago, the word was that an S2K-based sedan would replace the 4-dr 'Teg in order to compete with the Lexus IS. There was a possibility that the Prelude would either be discontinued or be based on the S2000 platform as well. But I read that in an issue of SCC from '99, so I'm sure there might be different plans by now.

VQuick
05-14-2001, 11:16 AM
I meant to post this as a reply in the RS-X thread.:o

But I guess this really could start a new topic, though. I'm not a Honda/Acura guy, I'll admit it. I think they're nice cars, but they don't do anything for me. The dealers here know they're nice cars, and charge too much. A local Honda dealer wanted $13k for a bare-bones 2k Civic hatchback, when I could have easily gotten a Focus ZX3 for $12,800 with almost all the options, missing only a sunroof. The Civic HB didn't even have as options some of the things the Focus had standard! I just wish the Civic's price would have been lower. I heard that they could be as low as $10-11k.

I have a Maxima now, and still kinda want a Civic. The payments are about double what the Civic HB woudl have been.:( I wanted the better handling and the tunabilty, but didn't want to sacrifice on the size, seating, etc. And there's tons of Civics here, so I'll stick with my Maxima.:cool:

Chris
05-14-2001, 11:40 AM
THe hot version revs much higher, , and must have more torque that high up, but less low down. So the base version is 'normal', the big engine is a screamer.
Good choice with the Maxima, and jap cars are getting more expensive (the new civic really shows this, and it is boring, doesn't make a good ricer)

VQuick
05-14-2001, 05:31 PM
I had so many plans for a Civic until I saw the sticker at the dealer. I'd have tricked out my HB with a B16 swap, stroked it to 2 liters, gotten Spoon's magnesium wheels, carbon fiber chin spoiler, close-ratio gearing, you name it.

Nothin' like that for a Maxima.hehe

Chris
05-15-2001, 09:34 AM
I don't lik enew Civics. Go with an old one (like, a 99) Hell, you could get used, 160hp Si for the price of a new one!

VQuick
05-15-2001, 04:43 PM
I don't like the '01s. There's no HB, and I wouldn't be able to do a B16A swap, because there's nothing with that engine for '01. Can't use an engine older than the car, y'know?
I just heard that the next Si will still have the B16A. What's up with that? That old SCC had said that it would get the B18 from the GS-R. It would make sense, since the standard Civics have a 1.7L. Why have the go-fast version use a smaller engine?:confused:

Oh yeah, scratch the B16 swap. I'd rather have an LS B18, so I can do the LS/VTEC head conversion for more torque. Then I'd stroke it to 2 liters.:frog:

johnny
05-15-2001, 10:58 PM
NO! The RSX is EVIL. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet. Blech. I need to see them out in the open. But, man... I wish they could have just kept the Integra name.

Jay!
05-16-2001, 03:10 AM
In Japan, it still is an Integra. They're only changing the name in America, for the Acura version (which is the same, mostly). The same way the TL is an Inspire (with red/white taillights!)...
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/photo_lib/image/photo4.jpg

...or maybe the TL is a Saber (I'm confused again*)...
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/saber/photo_lib/image/photo6.jpg

...and the RL is still a Legend (which most Americans think is dead!)...
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/legend/photo_lib/image/photo4.jpg

I guess we'lll know the real Integra fans when they rip off Acura's B.S. and put the new Integra scripts on along with Honda logos. :sun:

*I thought the Inspire was the CL, but maybe they introduced the new body style in the U.S. first. Anybody know better?

johnny
05-16-2001, 05:08 AM
If I ever get an RS-X, I'm gonna make sure to order the japanese integra emblems.

Chris
05-16-2001, 09:00 AM
I also like the Integra name better. But the car is improved. (styling is subjective- I pregfer the old one)
But hey, Acura is here to make money.

JD@af
05-16-2001, 11:37 AM
I'm going to move this into the RSX forum where it rightly belongs. But please, carry on :)

Jay!
05-16-2001, 08:06 PM
So which one is the TL?

BTW, congrats on 100 posts, johnny! we hit it right about the same time!

Adam
07-27-2001, 07:54 PM
the TL is the one right below where he says TL. I think it looks great. so did the previous gen CL. the the RL....well.. the Legend looked MUCH better

Chris
07-29-2001, 05:10 PM
You gotta love the RSX commercial with the chick going down the road on a surf-board thing.
This car will be quite good, a real drivers car (with the power so high up, grandma wont go for it)

RiceRocket
08-31-2001, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by VQuick
I don't like the '01s. There's no HB, and I wouldn't be able to do a B16A swap, because there's nothing with that engine for '01. Can't use an engine older than the car, y'know?
I just heard that the next Si will still have the B16A. What's up with that? That old SCC had said that it would get the B18 from the GS-R. It would make sense, since the standard Civics have a 1.7L. Why have the go-fast version use a smaller engine?:confused:

Oh yeah, scratch the B16 swap. I'd rather have an LS B18, so I can do the LS/VTEC head conversion for more torque. Then I'd stroke it to 2 liters.:frog:

I too am looking into getting a civic, except for that they are so expensive.... maybe i can get a new hyundai accent for like 7K....with the 100k mile warranty... :flash:

F20C
09-01-2001, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by VQuick
There will be two models of the production RSX. The base model(like the LS and RS) will have the 2L in a 160hp, 141lb-ft version, and there will be a hotter 200hp, 142lb-ft version(like the GS-R). I was kinda puzzled why there was only a 1lb-ft difference in torque. They should have been able to squeeze out more than that.
A long time ago, the word was that an S2K-based sedan would replace the 4-dr 'Teg in order to compete with the Lexus IS. There was a possibility that the Prelude would either be discontinued or be based on the S2000 platform as well. But I read that in an issue of SCC from '99, so I'm sure there might be different plans by now.

Type S also reach 141 lbs-ft at 4000 RPM as base model do. 1 extra torque reach at 6000RPM is for advertisement use. The torque line for Type S is flat past 3000RPM where it receives 95% of it's torque already.

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