Over Moderated

Well SDU, and Kiwi's. It looks as though one of our own has decided that we over post to his liking in any of the Kiwi started topics or threads. Too bad as I though AF would have been different. What I thought was a single thing has turned into one of personal dislikes.

When I first came to AF I watched for quite a while, to see how these forums are moderated. While the vast majority seem to take things at face value and let a thread go until it goes off topic for a bit, one seems to think it is his personal personal objectives to set a max post allowance. Shame.

A suggestion here and this lets leave off topic and go. The SDU forums are back up and running hence no reason to have to be over moderated outside of our circle.

Thank you Igor for the wonderful time. Thank you for allowing us a place to come to and still communitcate and have a bit of fun. For me the fun ends tonight in AF as far as Off topic and possibly AF in general. Moppie has seen to that. That is a shame it really is, that it has to come to this. Maybe one day he will relent but until then I, personally, will find forum time else where.

I have had a great pleasure being part of AF.

Take care.

Cheers

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what happened? have i missed something?

someone whom Vince has pointed has ruined, the fun and games we have in the AF forums....so we are packing our bags and heading back to the SDU forums where everyone knows you name and they are always glad you came!!

i would personally like to say a big thank you for spoiling a damn fine forum:finger:

Kiwi Crew Overlord my ass

who? :(

Originally posted by Buzzr
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what happened? have i missed something?
Moppies going around closing all the kiwi related threads for some reason.
i have no idea why http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/dunno.gifits pretty stink that we are losing all the dudes from the SDU forums because of it. http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/sad.gifnow ill shut up before i get told off or some shit.

I had no idea he was doing that. I also am not going to get into a flame war in open. I have nothing to say to Moppie, as his actions recently have said more than enough.

If I do not return any pm's then I have been banned, and that would not suprise me right now.

read the last post he made in the Its Kiwi time and Perkynana's threads which he closed. You will then understand what I am talking about.

In his signature it says "------Kiwi Crew Overlord------ " Well he is not my over lord, Igor is as Igor runs the forums, but relies on his moderators to keep things simple for him.

Last post in this thread from me.

Raz

I'm disappointed you take it so personally guys,hope to see you around again soon.This is one of the better forums around,and it's mostly good thanks to the efforts of the mods.Now if you are going to quit because you have had a disappointing day from one of the mods that's your option,but those of us who stay will miss you.As to getting banned,I've never seen anyone banned for disagreeing (in a civilised manner) with a mod.Perhaps you should PM the man and sort this out before making rash decisions.Either way,it's been good having you around and I for one would rather you stay.

They all come crawling back..........:devil:

Damn. I'm sorry to hear shit like that goes on. Perhaps you should have PM'ed Igor to take the issue to him since he's the head honcho.

This is a real shame that this has happened and its come to this.
Razor, you need to sort it out with Moppie by PM's.

It will be sad to see people leave such a good place because of this.

I actually enjoy all the Kiwi (Over Down Under Country) posting. They are my favourite (favorite).

Some people have a lot of time on their hands and post a lot...so what? Who cares? The only person who should have a say-so on post volume is the person who is paying the bill. I hear all this crap about "stop wasting the bandwidth, blah, blah, blah" -like they are paying anything?. Shaddup already! Let the Kiwis do as they please. They aren't ganging up on anybody. I say worry about ya damn self. Did ya brush your teeth today? Did you take out the garbage (rubbish)? Did you return the movie to Blockbuster on time? That's stuff you worry about. Not how many posts a person has in a day and closing a thread down the INSTANT it goes off topic. And Mods always use the old standby, " I have received complaints.." Yeah, from who? The ghost of Christmas Past? Your inner child? The brown noser with 1,680 posts? And all the "I'm telling Igor!" crap needs to stop. This is not 5th grade.

People are grown. Unless stuff in here gets derogatory or just plain stupid I do not see the harm. That is my 2 cents.

Brown nosers flame away.

Originally posted by Sham365
I actually enjoy all the Kiwi (Over Down Under Country) posting. They are my favourite (favorite).

Some people have a lot of time on their hands and post a lot...so what? Who cares? The only person who should have a say-so on post volume is the person who is paying the bill. I hear all this crap about "stop wasting the bandwidth, blah, blah, blah" -like they are paying anything?. Shaddup already! Let the Kiwis do as they please. They aren't ganging up on anybody. I say worry about ya damn self. Did ya brush your teeth today? Did you take out the garbage (rubbish)? Did you return the movie to Blockbuster on time? That's stuff you worry about. Not how many posts a person has in a day and closing a thread down the INSTANT it goes off topic. And Mods always use the old standby, " I have received complaints.." Yeah, from who? The ghost of Christmas Past? Your inner child? The brown noser with 1,680 posts? And all the "I'm telling Igor!" crap needs to stop. This is not 5th grade.

People are grown. Unless stuff in here gets derogatory or just plain stupid I do not see the harm. That is my 2 cents.

Brown nosers flame away.


You need to be more specific when you say 'The mods'. :rolleyes:

I hate to see everyone leave just because a couple threads were closed. :( But guessing by the sudden tension, I'm gonna take it that I don't have a snowball's chance in NZ of keeping people here... Best of Luck, and we hope to see you back here soon!

~tangie

Originally posted by saturntangerine
I hate to see everyone leave just because a couple threads were closed. :( But guessing by the sudden tension, I'm gonna take it that I don't have a snowball's chance in NZ of keeping people here... Best of Luck, and we hope to see you back here soon!

~tangie Wispers in Tangie's ear..........it may be safe to come out again now that it looks like Razor may have gone for good

I've left AF pretty much too......... i still post occasionaly but barely anymore

I just don't enjoy it much anymore, seems like everyones out to get me, especially moppie...... i can't say one thing without him making some stupid ass comment

everybody is still cool, there are just a couple people that ruin it

I don't know the situation, nor have I personally had a problem with Moppie. I know it's the internet, but if people are gonna leave because of 1 or 2 people, why not try to resolve it..whether by PMing/AIMing the person you have a conflict with or take it to Igor if all else fails? If I don't like someone's topic or post then I just move on to the next one.

G$ and everyone ele thinking of leaving...I hope you change your minds about leaving...but I want you to know I have enjoyed reading your posts.


:(

It will take ALOT for me to leave this place. I've thought about doing it later on, but I doubt it. Nothing can make me leave. NOTHING.

well Spectre and Razor are 2 of my best mates and I know they wouldn't do this if something wasn't up, but I'm not leaving so far unless I am booted, and I don't see why I don't misbehave.

Man, I disappear for 12 hours and it looks like more stuff has turned to custard :(

Razor I’m sorry to see you go, I could always be guaranteed of a laugh when I log on in the morning after you’ve been on at night. I’ll miss ya! :(

Please reconsider and start posting again!!

Originally posted by FTO Girl
Man, I disappear for 12 hours and it looks like more stuff has turned to custard :(


Yea really, I was talking to him last night and he seemed just a tad peved, not nearly this much. Well, I say he's an adult and he can make his own decisions. I do hope he changes his mind though, now who will harass Tazdev with me!? :D
Now as to why the kiwi threads were gettin locked... I don't have a clue, I was posting in the Perky Nanas thread and I don't think there was any logical reason for it to get locked.... Any explinations are welcome....

Originally posted by Gonthrax

Now as to why the kiwi threads were gettin locked... I don't have a clue, I was posting in the Perky Nanas thread and I don't think there was any logical reason for it to get locked.... Any explinations are welcome.... My guess is that the threads got WAY off-topic (i.e. the Perky Nana one) and that’s why they were locked. Just my guess though, I could be totally wrong.

Originally posted by FTO Girl
My guess is that the threads got WAY off-topic (i.e. the Perky Nana one) and that’s why they were locked. Just my guess though, I could be totally wrong.

Who knows, I'm sure vince had some reason for gettin ticked. He does't strike me as a rash type of person.

Originally posted by Gonthrax


Who knows, I'm sure vince had some reason for gettin ticked. He does't strike me as a rash type of person.

he's not. and there really wasn't a reason the threads should have been closed. I mean "off-topic" , let the conversation go where it goes. this is the off-topic section.

Originally posted by kbslacker



You need to be more specific when you say 'The mods'. :rolleyes:

Sorry, dawg. Can't get specific about people on top when you are on the bottom, ya know? Many know who exactly comments are referring to regardless, but I understand what you are saying. I will start using "some", "most" "a few" and "99.9%" before the word "Mods" so as not to label some of the Mods who things don't apply to.

Sometimes threads are locked simply due to their length. The odds of someone posting for the first time in a 15-page thread are slim to none, and that becomes a barrier to the open communication here. For example, I didn't post in the Perky Nanas thread simply because I never had the time to read it all...

As for threads about postwhoring... well, no one should really be surprised when they're closed.

If any of you have a problem with any particular moderator, please feel free to approach Igor or any other moderator you fell comfotable with so any issues can be addressed.

Originally posted by jay@af
Sometimes threads are locked simply due to their length. The odds of someone posting for the first time in a 15-page thread are slim to none, and that becomes a barrier to the open communication here. For example, I didn't post in the Perky Nanas thread simply because I never had the time to read it all...
Ok, thats a logical reason. It makes sense to me:)
Originally posted by jay@af
As for threads about postwhoring... well, no one should really be surprised when they're closed.

But then were will the PWs go? I think a SINGLE thread for it is a good idea so that people (who will remain nameless:D) don't go all over posting and replying to themself and mucking up the conversation that is going on.

What a happy way to start the fucking day. :huh: :huh:



Jay explained pretty well why I closed the threads,

Sometimes threads are locked simply due to their length. The odds of someone posting for the first time in a 15-page thread are slim to none, and that becomes a barrier to the open communication here. For example, I didn't post in the Perky Nanas thread simply because I never had the time to read it all...

As far as I was concerned I was simply doing my job based on those reasons.

And besides the Kiwi threads get a little boring after about 4-5 pages, so to make it easier to include everyone here at AF in the convo's then I close them, and allow another one to open and start again.
Look at all the sheep threads we have. Each is differnt, and each involves a variety of differnt members, and each is bloody funny. But after a few pages they all desecend into a private conversation between a few members.

If you want to have a private conversations then try AIM or ICQ or some other chat program, try picking up the Telephone (local calls are still free in NZ, and I know most of the SDU members are Auck based) or get in your cars and go vist each other.
If that is to hard then maybe ask Igor for a Kiwi BS chat forum.


The Kiwi Crew Overlord in my Sig is a JOKE you know, theres a whole lot of Kiwis here, and only two of us are mods? hahaha funny get it? :rolleyes:

I had hoped to prehaps create a NON-serious funy Kiwi Army on AF.
Just for a laugh, give the long time and high posting members high ranks, make P-Man Mt T and Razor FTO-Girl etc comanding officers.
It would only be a joke, and bring some Kiwi type Humor to the Forums.
However it seems some people take the online world a little to seriously, so I'll forget about entertaining people.



Razor it would have been nice if you had PM'd me with your concerns, or if you had just gone straight to Igor or another mod, we dont need personal problems discussed in public forums.
Im really a very aprochable person I am happy to discuss any problem you may have. you can email me [email protected] or PM me or im on AIM as Moppienz



AF is a BIG place, and has a huge variety of differnt members from all over the world, its important to cater to all of them, and allow all of them to have thier say. A Forum filled with topics that are all driven offtopic into personal discussions bewteen a minority of members is not an inviting place to new members.
New Zealanders often pride themselves on being friendly out going people, and a look around will show that we often the first to welcome new members, and the first to offer comfort and advice to other members. Lets not let this interfer with that.

Now if you take an objective look around its quite clear that the forums here at AF are not over moderated, we all spend a lot of time keeping the forums clean from rubbish, spammers, and helping all members become involved in the goings on. We strive hard to allow the freedom to express your own opinion, and none of us get anything for it other then the satisfaction of knowing we've helped.

If anyone is unhappy with that then tell us. No member has ever been banned for disagreing with a mod, and I know that if it ever happened Igor would ban the mod in question with out thinking about it.
Its disagreements and differing of opinions and the freedom to express them that attracted me to AF in the first place, and I hope that is allowed to continue.





Now that Iv got my little rant out of the way, you'll have to excuse me. I have a life in the real world I need to attend to.

:cool:

Yeah, I'm with Gangstar- I have Slim to NONE to contribute to this forum, unless someone wants to know about Drums...I just hang around in hopes of Catching some of Yog's Or DVS' humor, or in case either of my cars has a problem I can't figure out. I hate to have to say it, but if Yogs goes, I probably wouldn't hang around for long, at least until my cars broke down again. But Right now, I'm perfectly happy for the time being.

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