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LjasonL
01-22-2002, 01:06 AM
well i got my rental car for the week while they fix my scoob, a 2001 toyota corolla. :( :( :( if this isnt the worst handling car ive ever ridden in, i dont know what is. my buddys range rover will out corner it for christs sake! not to mention a complete lack of go! on the bright side i managed to outrun an integra 4 door automatic and an 88 prelude si tonight! (wow great kills huh?) and raced a camaro ss, then we pulled up next to him and i said "congratulations u just outran A COROLLA!"

CAptynCrunch
01-22-2002, 06:39 AM
hey, easy on the corollas :) yes, although a 2001 might be a piece of crap and the worst handling car ever, the 1987's were possibly the greatest handling car ever. Ah the good old ae86 trueno. nothing will beat it done a winding moutain road.

chenZen
01-22-2002, 09:54 AM
actually, the trueno was a cross between the old corolla and celica.

LjasonL
01-22-2002, 03:59 PM
oh yeah i love the old corollas back when they were rwd those are one of my favorite cars! i should have said "modern corollas suck" i guess
btw not only does riding in it make u feel skanky, it makes u feel like a skanky girl.

luisangel166
02-28-2002, 09:18 AM
out of all cars made in the world the toyota corollas are one of the most long lasting cars ever made ,and as for racng how are you going t o race a four cylinder 1.6 vs. a 6 or 8 cylinder 2.8 or 3.0,it doesnt make sense to do that.for example take a 1980 corolla with a 3tc engine and do some slight modifications like making the car a four barrel carb and change the fywheel and clutch with a weaver sytem and a fuel mag you will be pushin 0-60 in 5 seconds or less (if you know how to race the right way)im a toyota fan the only car that toyota has that is a piece of crap is the prius ,but beside s that the toyota are the top liner cars.i have a supra that has a greddy muffler system ,a t-88 turbo with intercooler ,fluidine radiator, short cam gears,je pistons,titanium valve springs,billet connecting rods,port and polish,all upgrades on drive train,sparco torino seat with a five point harness,bomex body kit ,brombo brake system set of wheels from hr,both of my cars will take out your piece of crap subaru and the piece of crap camaro .

MaFi0s0
02-28-2002, 09:55 AM
Im an unfortunate owner of a toyota camry wich im gonna sell soon, and im reconsidering buying a toyota because the amount of body roll on this car is amazing, it leans around corners at 20kmh (~15mph)
that ontop of the poor powersteering just makes it a peice of shit for AU$5000 (my dad bought me it).
my friend crashed the peice of shit afew weeks ago, the accedent wouldnt of happened if the car wouldnt lean around corners and bends.

im really wondering wtf is the point of a car having body roll.

TatII
02-28-2002, 10:17 AM
luisangel166 whoa easy there. ldelaysionl wasn't bashing toyota. he was even givin props to the old AE86's. i mean if the new corolla is that bad of a car, then let it be. no manufacture makes every car nice. its just not possible. i tend to consider the matrix as the new corolla no the corolla. and i've driven the less recent corolla's (95) and that thing had absolutely no power~! but then again, its only a corolla. i shouldn't expect much from it.

Tom_S8
02-28-2002, 10:58 AM
My friend had one back in 97 , he took it out of the dealership , and after driving it around , the next day he went to performance parts shop and ordered a full sport suspension package... Althought the 1.4 engine hasn't got much pulling power , but it still was too much for that suspension... Then he sold it and got a supra and now he is ... :bandit:

NSX
02-28-2002, 12:01 PM
i hope toyota brings back the Trueno
only 980 kg (i think)...coupled with a FR drivetrain:)

CAptynCrunch
02-28-2002, 06:23 PM
I think they might be thinking the same thing, anyone seen the add for the new Corolla S? I don't know any specs or if there will be a rear drive version or anyhting, but hey, it's got potential :)

On another note, there's a mint condition 86 or 87 GTS parked at a house out by the mall near my house. Me and my cousin saw it when we were searching for a friends apartment and it's just been sitting there, I've only seen it move once in like 3 months. I'm thinking of getting like $2000 together and jsut knocking on the guys door and offering him it cause he doesn't seem to drive it very much. Then i could have some real fun :) 1.6L 16 valve DOHC at like 1900lbs worth of fun :)

NSX-R-SSJ20K
02-28-2002, 06:58 PM
corollas do suck

and why on earth does stylincompacts.com have a corolla with a supra wing on it

utterly gay and pointless

flylwsi
02-28-2002, 07:34 PM
well...
since i happen to work at this utterly gay place, where is it on my site?

oh, and just for clarification. the pics we have are from the manufacturers, so ask them why they are utterly gay for having the pic... anything else?

you are really stepping on toes here pal.

Shrike117
03-01-2002, 02:32 PM
You can't say a car sucks just because it wasn't designed for racing. I drive a used '99 Corolla VE and considering my income I'm proud of what I got.

I didn't find any major handling problems with my car (maybe because I'm to used to it). One time I had a camaro tailing-gating me and I was about to enter an tight S-curve slick with black ice. I entered the curve at 110kph, used LFB, and (with all four wheels sliding) just sailed through that S-curve exiting at 100kph. The camaro driver would have to be a master at the Scandinavian Flick in order to keep up with me in the turns.

In roads with a lot of curves horsepower isn't the main factor. I'm confident enough to say RWDs cannot beat me in curves without heel-and-toeing (rare skill), but of course I wouldn't waste time with outclassing cars especially AWDs.

Good drivers make the best of a bad car.

LjasonL
03-06-2002, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by luisangel166
out of all cars made in the world the toyota corollas are one of the most long lasting cars ever made ,and as for racng how are you going t o race a four cylinder 1.6 vs. a 6 or 8 cylinder 2.8 or 3.0,it doesnt make sense to do that.for example take a 1980 corolla with a 3tc engine and do some slight modifications like making the car a four barrel carb and change the fywheel and clutch with a weaver sytem and a fuel mag you will be pushin 0-60 in 5 seconds or less (if you know how to race the right way)im a toyota fan the only car that toyota has that is a piece of crap is the prius ,but beside s that the toyota are the top liner cars.i have a supra that has a greddy muffler system ,a t-88 turbo with intercooler ,fluidine radiator, short cam gears,je pistons,titanium valve springs,billet connecting rods,port and polish,all upgrades on drive train,sparco torino seat with a five point harness,bomex body kit ,brombo brake system set of wheels from hr,both of my cars will take out your piece of crap subaru and the piece of crap camaro .

whoa easy there turbo... like tatII said i wasnt bashing toyotas, toyota is one of my favorite manufacturers and makes more of my favorite cars than anyone else... but the truth is the 2001 corolla i had was a slow piece of shit that cornered like crap. maybe it was just that particular car, who knows. u said both of your cars so im assuming your other car is a 80 corolla right? well as a matter of fact i like 80 corollas but please dont talk about your modified car smoking my stock subaru cuz if they were both stock i would hand u your ass. with enough mods anything can beat anything else, but from the factory my car is superior to an 80 corolla in pretty much every way... and if your doing 0-60 in 5-6 seconds i bet i could give u a good run anyways.

oh and does it make u feel good that your supra with all that crap in it can beat my stock subaru station wagon? if my car had all that stuff i almost guarantee it would outrun your supra anyway.

NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-06-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
well...
since i happen to work at this utterly gay place, where is it on my site?

oh, and just for clarification. the pics we have are from the manufacturers, so ask them why they are utterly gay for having the pic... anything else?

you are really stepping on toes here pal.

its actually in the catalog tell the manufacturer to get a clue :D they aren't going to sell those

i have a corolla and it is good for nothing except moving from A to B


the site isn't the utterly gay and pointless bit its the Car ! No offense intended :smoker:

BladesM3
04-16-2002, 02:14 AM
Boy a lot of you have fast mouths when it comes to the new corollas considering you know nothing about them. Also considering they have the same engine as the new Celica GT and MR@ Spyder, with a few modifications you can get one to beat a semi-fixed up GSR. Not like that’s super fast but I know that’s a lot better then most of the cars in here cant do. For some pictures and specs of the new Corolla go here….

http://www.cthreeracing.com


2002 Turbo Corolla passing you…. ::psssssssst::

ImportScene
04-16-2002, 03:27 AM
http://www.superstreetonline.com/cms/editorial/media/p141676_image_large.jpg
http://push2play.home.mindspring.com/DSCN0692.JPG http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/2daf31ff/bc/cars/front---1.jpg?bc.NRB9AUVXG0_Tl http://bapo.homestead.com/files/H3RO_2.jpg
http://www.calpoly.edu/~nto/rolla.JPG
http://www.hardwarecomp.homestead.com/files/c3logo3.jpg
http://www.hiplick.com/hkcorolla/images/star200109/2a.jpg http://munky.org/citrus/cthreesig.jpg http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/6836e08d/bc/My+Photos/c3meet16+copy.jpg?bceUW88AbOCkozpT
http://www.corolla-racing.com/images/eric_andree_4.jpg

COROLLA for you guys!

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by ImportScene
http://www.superstreetonline.com/cms/editorial/media/p141676_image_large.jpg
http://push2play.home.mindspring.com/DSCN0692.JPG http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/2daf31ff/bc/cars/front---1.jpg?bc.NRB9AUVXG0_Tl http://bapo.homestead.com/files/H3RO_2.jpg
http://www.calpoly.edu/~nto/rolla.JPG
http://www.hardwarecomp.homestead.com/files/c3logo3.jpg
http://www.hiplick.com/hkcorolla/images/star200109/2a.jpg http://munky.org/citrus/cthreesig.jpg http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/6836e08d/bc/My+Photos/c3meet16+copy.jpg?bceUW88AbOCkozpT
http://www.corolla-racing.com/images/eric_andree_4.jpg

COROLLA for you guys!

those cars are pretty gay dude. not cuz theyre corollas, but cuz most of them are kinda (by kinda i mean pretty) ricey. if i were u i would find some classier cars to represent your beloved corolla. :) the black one next to the "toy rolla" looks kinda nice, but the rest of them? :apuke: tasteless

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by BladesM3
Also considering they have the same engine as the new Celica GT and MR@ Spyder

oh thats the same engine that propels the corolla s to an 8.8 second 0-60 and a 16.6 second quarter mile at 88mph? :hehehe: and the 95 corolla dx to a 10.2 second 0-60 and a 17.6 second quarter? :spit: youre right, that corolla IS a powerhouse! :rolleyes: the corolla s is only 0.1 seconds faster through the 1/4 than a civic dx!

a 95 integra gsr has a 6.5 second 0-60 and a 15.2 second quarter youre gonna need more than
Originally posted by BladesM3
a few modifications
to beat a
Originally posted by BladesM3
semi-fixed up gsr

TRD
04-16-2002, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by luisangel166
......piece of crap subaru and the piece of crap camaro .


you tell me!:D

ldelaysionl
what do you have in your SUBARU anyways??? your stock right? :o

Neutrino
04-16-2002, 04:22 AM
Ok what the heck is this a newbie fest or someone keeps re-registering with af?

TRD
04-16-2002, 04:23 AM
ImportScene

those are pretty hooked-up corollas...nice ;)

TRD
04-16-2002, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by Neutrino
Ok what the heck is this a newbie fest or someone keeps re-registering with af?

something wrong with a newbie ???

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 04:28 AM
well its official, this thread has been raised from the dead.

im sorry neutrino, i think ive attracted the international corolla defense committee :p

Neutrino
04-16-2002, 04:39 AM
I see corollas... All the time. And they don't even know they are slow.

Neutrino
04-16-2002, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by ldelaysionl
im sorry neutrino, i think ive attracted the international corolla defense committee :p

Corolla boys are here!!! Everybody RUN......


AAAAAH(screaming like a girl)
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by TRD



you tell me!:D

ldelaysionl
what do you have in your SUBARU anyways??? your stock right? :o

is your point that, in stock form, my base model impreza is easily more than a second faster on a drag strip than a top of the line corolla? and infinately faster on a road course? i dont understand what youre getting at here... :confused:

anyways no im not stock, performance wise, ive only got about $200-$300 in her, but ive got some stuff in there. enough to win me a "1st place centerville dragway street import class" trophy and a "1st place modified car golds gym annual car show" plaque, so yeah... :o yawn away.

jhbhatia
04-16-2002, 11:15 AM
I can easily tell you all that the corolla’s are sweet. BladesM3 is the mod at www.cthreeracing.com and he has his corolla turbo’ed and he ran a ¼ mile at approx 12 seconds! Not many people pay that much attention to modding a rolla, but please don’t get confused with the fact that it can’t be modded. I have a full line up of cars at my driveway…..Celica All Trac (GT Four), Lexus ES300, Camry V6 XLE, and a Toyota Solara. I was once a very proud owner of a Toyota Corolla. Corolla may not be the best car out there, but it’s a whole lot more to offer than its competitors, No wonder it is the “NUMBER ONE SELLING CAR IN THE WORLD FOR LIKE 13 YEARS IN A ROW”

H8aHONDA
04-16-2002, 12:39 PM
:flipa: TALK ALL THE SHIT U WANT BOUT COROLLAS, LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR CARS THEY "MIGHT" BE FAST BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT FUNKY ASS LOOKING WAGON SHIT???? AND IDELAYSIONL YOUR SUBRU AINT ALL THAT!!! AND A WHOLE SECOND YOUR TALKING ABOUT SHIT, THE DRIVER CAN MAKE UP SECONDS NOT THE CAR AND YEAH YOU HAVE UPSET SOME OF US WITH THIS BULL-SHIT FORUM...AND YEAH IT IS THE COROLLA ALIENCE WERE
"C-THREE RACING " BEYOTCH

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by H8aHONDA
:flipa: TALK ALL THE SHIT U WANT BOUT COROLLAS, LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR CARS THEY "MIGHT" BE FAST BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT FUNKY ASS LOOKING WAGON SHIT???? AND IDELAYSIONL YOUR SUBRU AINT ALL THAT!!! AND A WHOLE SECOND YOUR TALKING ABOUT SHIT, THE DRIVER CAN MAKE UP SECONDS NOT THE CAR AND YEAH YOU HAVE UPSET SOME OF US WITH THIS BULL-SHIT FORUM...AND YEAH IT IS THE COROLLA ALIENCE WERE
"C-THREE RACING " BEYOTCH

i never said my subaru was all that, what i said is that the BASE MODEL impreza is over 1 second faster through the 1/4 mile and tons faster through a road course than the TOP OF THE LINE corolla. and those are facts. give me some facts to support why corollas are good. i still havent heard any. not a single one of u corolla people have given me a reason WHY the corolla is so good. the reason its the number one selling car in the world is its a good commuter and economy car, but thats where it ends, in commuter and economy. theyre NOT drag cars, obviously with the 16 and 17 second stock 1/4s. theyre NOT road race cars, with the crap ass suspension and 130hp. theyre NOT rally cars, once again with the crappy suspension. when is the last time u saw a corolla raced competitively in ANY type of race series?

like i said, give me ONE reason the corolla is such an awesome car. the only thing any of u can come up with is economy, because thats the ONLY thing the corolla is good at.

and if the cars posted above are what u people call looking good, im glad u dont think my car looks good. the corollas posted above would be right at home in the highschool parking lot with a lot of dumb kids standing around talking about the fast and the furious, but i bet you 99% of the drivers on the road think they look rediculous.

fastrThanU
04-16-2002, 03:56 PM
the corrolla, according to you, is the best selling car for 13yrs because it has more to offer than its competitors.........

let me finish that thought...... it's becasuse they are a family economy car. this is a street race forum, and a corrolla is by no means a performance car. you wanna post about corrollas? go to a family car forum. don't hate on ldelaysionl's subaru... it's a nice ride- a lot more to offer than a corrolla

CAptynCrunch
04-16-2002, 04:40 PM
Ok, this has gotten out of hand, again!

Now, I was the first one to come to the corolla's defense, but I was referring to the older model that hasn't been produced in over a decade. The current models of corolla(from the early 90's on) are just plain crap from a performance point of view. As Idelaysion just said, sure the corolla is a great commuter, and it has longevity. Properly cared for one will last a decade easily. however, they are in no way a performance car.

A lot better then most cars here? Ok, lets look at the corolla from a performance point of view. Oh yes, and Blades, i do know about the new corolla, so don't tell me i don't. You say it has the same engine as the new celicas and MRS's? Big no it doesn't. It has the same BLOCK, not the same engine. If it had the same engine they would both produce the same ammount of power.

Celica, lets see, it runs 11.5:1 compression and produces 180HP. This is with the help of much higher grade engine components then those used in the corolla, and, most inportantly, a special cam system. So no, your car does not have the same engine as a celica.

MR2 Spyder, hell, who gives a damn if you've got the same engine as this thing, it's jsut as pussy as a corolla engine. The thing only produces 138HP. Thats a pathetic disgrace compared to what the older MR2's used to make. Sure the MRS is a better handling car then teh old MR2's, but it's got no power, and your car shares nothing in common with an MRS as far as handling is concerned.

Finally, the corolla it's self. The type S and every other model have 130HP, and at 2500lbs. thats not fast at all. Hell, like Idelaysion already pointed, it's only 0.1 seconds faster then a BASE model civic through the 1/4. And as we all know, the civic is a pathetic piece of crap that is not meant for performance use, so something that is only a tenth of a second faster then the BASE model of a civic is not meant for performance use either.

Oh yeah, and would you care to explain this magical 130HP corolla that "with a few modifications" could beat a GSR with it's 180HP and far, far, superior handling?(and don't give me any crap about a corolla being able to out handle a GSR, cause it can't).

Oh, and TRD, yes Idelaysion's Impreza is pretty much totally stock performance wise, It's a wagon(an extra 80lbs.) it has a fairly large stereo, and a playstation(or is it a PS2?). All of these things would in fact slow him down(no offense bro, just the matter of the extra weight). And you know what? His stock, Naturally aspirated, Not even top of the line Imprezza would still kick the piss out of ANY stock corolla on teh road, or for that matter, any corolla with any besides either an engine swap or some form of forced induction. And he could do it in either the 1/4 or in a street course.

Finally, for H8aHonda, a suggestion. Don't type in all capitals, it doesn't make you look cool, loud, forceful, or anything good. It jsut makes you look like a dumbass who can't work a keyboard. Oh yeah, and there's no "Might" aout toehr cars being fast when they are being compared to a corolla. You say that It's not the speed of the car but the looks? thats just fucking retarded. You want to talk about looks goto an art museum, cars are about speed. And even if you do prefer cars for they're looks then their performance, you can't argue whether your car looks better then someone elses because thats based on opinion, not fact. But just for the record, makeing a car look nice is not about renting fast and the furious with your friends then seeing who can fit the biggest strut wing on tehy're piece of crap FWD car before it creates to much down force and just lifts they're front wheels off teh ground. Oh yeah, and no car should have those stupid ass stickers and graphics on them. It doesn't look cool, it just looks tacky. And since when the hell does a corolla look good? the new ones are too damn chunky to look good, they look like something halfway between a camry and an echo.

Oh yeah, and the driver can make up seconds in a 1/4? Bullshit, the only way that applies is if your a godly launcher/shifter and the person your racing can't drive. And in real competition the other person is going to be just as good as you, maybe not quite as good, but also possibly a bit better. So yes the car matters in teh 1/4. In fact it's pretty much all that does matter.

And bullshit forum? I somehow doubt this "C3Racing" has that great, or popular of a forum(s) as AF does.

Oh yeah, and finally, Blades, i'd like to see some specs for your car. because unless your blowing at least like 15psi of boost, theres no way your car can run 12's.

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 05:42 PM
wow captyncrunch, those are exactly the points that i was trying to get them to realize, but i didnt wanna type such a long post. nicely said! :jump:

"c-three", consider yourself:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/733803owneddomo2.jpg


i just found that pic, and this seemed a fitting opportunity to use it
:cwn27: :hehe: :hehehe: :silly2:

CAptynCrunch
04-16-2002, 05:51 PM
Thanks Idelaysion, Yeah, it didn't take to long to type, the third time. My damn computer locked up TWICE! while i was trying to post that message. Damn computer isn't getting the better of me:D

And by the way, what the HELL is that thing in the picture? Cause i keep seeing that guy/thing/whatever everywhere on the forums.

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 06:10 PM
haha, thats "domo" i just found a few pics of him and hes cool!

oh btw after a little investigating i found the thread about us on "c-three", the funny thing is they even admit on there that the 2001 corollas have weak handling but still they come in here and defend its handling to us. and somebody said something about "of course his wrx will beat a stock corolla" i guess they dont realize i dont drive a wrx... they also talk about my "photochopped" speedometer, guess they think that cuz a corolla will barely hit 100mph (the 2001 i drove would only get 100 downhill) that no other car can get to 125 and still be stable and smooth enough to allow me to take a picture...

http://www.cthreeracing.com/vbull/showthread.php?threadid=8156

C3 Rollin
04-16-2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by ldelaysionl
wow captyncrunch, those are exactly the points that i was trying to get them to realize, but i didnt wanna type such a long post. nicely said! :jump:

"c-three", consider yourself:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/733803owneddomo2.jpg


i just found that pic, and this seemed a fitting opportunity to use it
:cwn27: :hehe: :hehehe: :silly2:


Hey dude dont get mad that you spent alot more money for a car....With the money I save from buying a corolla I can spend to smoke your Suburu...:devil: :smoker2: :devil: :smoker2:

93speed
04-16-2002, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by ldelaysionl
http://www.cthreeracing.com/vbull/showthread.php?threadid=8156

I see H8Honda or whoever he was still can't work his keyboard :bloated:

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by C3 Rollin



Hey dude dont get mad that you spent alot more money for a car....With the money I save from buying a corolla I can spend to smoke your Suburu...:devil: :smoker2: :devil: :smoker2:

okay this is directly from the toyota website in the "build a toyota" section.

2003 corolla LE 5 speed manual. $15,205
anti lock brakes (standard on impreza) $300
driver and passenger airbags (standard on impreza) $250
extra mile pkg a (which includes carpeted floor mats and 3 yr/36000 mile warranty, standard on impreza) $487
security system upgrade (not standard on impreza, but on my impreza) $389
15 inch wheels (standard on impreza) $390
am/fm/cd combo with 6 speakers (not standard on impreza, but on mine) $40

total price: $17061, not including destination charges.
total price of my impreza: $17845, not including destination charges

there is about a $700 difference when u price comparably equipped models. u cant just say the corolla is such a better value cuz there is a "stripped" model corolla and not a stripped impreza, if u wanna compare them give the corolla the same equipment the impreza has.



also things i have that ARENT options on the corolla:
full time awd
165hp and 167lb/ft torque
viscous coupling limited slip differential

sounds like a hell of a value for the extra $700. NOW tell me whos getting the better deal?

Polygon
04-16-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by C3 Rollin



Hey dude dont get mad that you spent alot more money for a car....With the money I save from buying a corolla I can spend to smoke your Suburu...:devil: :smoker2: :devil: :smoker2:

Just give it up man.

Look at it this way. My car cost me $3,000. It is in near perfect condition, gets about 40 MPG on the freeway at 75 MPH, it has almost 150,000 on the odometer with the original turbo that still puts out over 14 PSI of boost.

So lets recap here.

My car costs less.
I get better gas mileage.
Damn reliable.
And I'll tear you a new asshole in a race without even trying.
And I think it looks a hell of a lot better than a Corolla.

So just give it up, it is a Corolla. It is slow, and besides everyone knows that Subaru is a better company and doesn't make extreemly ugly cars like Toyota.

CAptynCrunch
04-16-2002, 07:42 PM
$700 for Subaru AWD, and LSD? shit, I'd love to know where they get their work done :p

And polygon, although i don't totally agree with you on Toyotas being ugly(although yes all they latest ones are) you are most definitly right about your car being better, faster, and much nicer looking. I gotta say, your s is by far the best looking LeBaron I've ever seen. I love the flip-ups on it, and i gotta compliment you on the rims, they're perfect for that car.

Polygon
04-16-2002, 10:02 PM
Thanks CAptynCrunch, I actually tried painting the stock alloys gold first, which did it for me for a while. Then I came upon these and thought they would look damn good. And you are the first person that has said they look good besides my dad. Everyone else says "why didn't you get chrome?' :rolleyes:

Also that is what I meant by ugly Toyotas, all the new ones are just plain ugly. But the supra has always look GREAT!

Nutly Nuts
04-16-2002, 10:11 PM
http://www.munky.org/images/specialolym.jpg

PLZ STOP ALL DA FIGHTIN!!?! :smoka: :bandit: :smoka:


Yeah well in my defense, I represent the old, and like to thank CAptynCrunch for the props for the old. The early Rolla's are RWD and the GTS's have the same motors as the MR2. Besides the only Rolla that can compete against the Subaru is the WRC Rolla. Even Japan J-Spec Rolla are far superior to the modern Rollas North America sells. I know it ain't much but we do what we do to make it better than stock and some of us are even more dedicated and put the Rolla onto another level. Too bad the modern Rolla has lost some of its racing roots!!?! :( :( :(

Polygon
04-16-2002, 10:19 PM
Yeah, Nuts you have a great point there. I have to say that my comments were directed at only the new Rollas. The older ones could actually get up and go pretty good and they looked a lot better than the new ones.

LjasonL
04-16-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Nutly Nuts
The early Rolla's are RWD and the GTS's have the same motors as the MR2. Besides the only Rolla that can compete against the Subaru is the WRC Rolla.

all the cars u metioned here (older rwd corollas, mr2, wrc corolla) are very cool cars.

however none of them have anything important in common with the type of corolla i was referring to when i made the origional post, and that is the modern usdm corolla.

Nutly Nuts
04-16-2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by ldelaysionl

however none of them have anything important in common with the type of corolla i was referring to when i made the origional post, and that is the modern usdm corolla.

Sorry dawg, didn't mean to come off that way, I've always been a fan of the old personally!!?!

I heard you were playin Tokyo Extreme Racin when they took the 120mph shot and you have pics, I'd like to see those!!?! :D :cool: :D

Post the pic here and/or on C3, LATER!!?!

:smoka: :bandit: :smoka:

LjasonL
04-17-2002, 12:40 AM
alright u asked for it so heres the whole series of my "fast" pictures. it all started when i was just gonna take a pic of my screen somebody wanted to see, and i took it at 40mph, and i was looking at it and thought "wow, that would be a cool picture if i was doing like 120" and yes, i actually took these myself while i was driving.

this 1st pic is the one i cut and zoomed in to make the pic in my signature. thats why the one in my sig looks finda messed up and fake.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/5218721.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/8935092.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/9271743.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1012854.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/8389795.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1603606.JPG
these last 2 are my friend driving not me, i took these pictures too. this time its daylight so u can see the rushing scenery better!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1640817.JPG
note the sign: "speed limit 40", weve just reached about 115.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1882278.JPG

Nutly Nuts
04-17-2002, 02:15 AM
SICK!!?!

:eek: :eek: :devil: :eek: :eek:


That's pretty cool man!!?!




:smoka: :bandit: :smoka:

chebbiesux
04-17-2002, 02:55 AM
hahahah, i just read the post on their board
hahah, they all know about as much about cars as my guppy.
'cars are meant stock not to max out d3wd'
yeah meign, 'rollas be da shiznit !

hahaha i f'in hate those little sh*tboxes hahaha

Nutly Nuts
04-17-2002, 10:42 AM
What do you have??!?
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Polygon
04-17-2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Nutly Nuts
What do you have??!?
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Here is a link (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t39336.html) to see some pics of his cars.

CivicEater
04-17-2002, 02:19 PM
Here's my question.. and yes.. i own a corolla...

QUESTION: WHY WOULD YOU BITCH ABOUT BODY ROLL IN A STOCK CAR? there is NO stock commuter car that doesn't have weak springs.. in fact, i'll venture that even a stock SUBARU would not reach my tastes for body roll..

Here's my car.. It's lowered.. that's the way we get rid of bodyroll.. Simple physics..

http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/members/CivicEater/Dsc00490.jpg http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/members/CivicEater/Dsc00491.jpg http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/members/CivicEater/Dsc00495.jpg

now, tell me that ain't a decent car!!!

more pix at: http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/

enjoy

Joel

CAptynCrunch
04-17-2002, 02:50 PM
*I hate! fancy rims on cars with drum brakes* its ugly as hell. And you think no stock commuter car has little body roll? Your right, which is why i stated that a corolla is NOT a PERFORMANCE car. it's an economy based commuter, its not meant to be raced, which shows when it is, through the fact taht it's slow as hell. And do you really think a stock subaru has any where near the ammount of body roll a corolla does?

Ok, thats it, I'm calling it quits(hehe, like I've never said that before). I give up. I mean i looked around their site and they were talking about 1/4 times. They were all rpoud of 16.4 and were talking about what a challenge and accomplishment it would be to get 15s N/A. Then someone said that new chips, engine bores, and new cams would increase power. And then i saw something that just ended it for me. They said that an ECHO was fast:eek: And somewhere they were talking baout asking the guys at their local toyota if TRD is planning on making a supercharger for the corolla and how annoying it was when the guy laughed in their face. They we saying how they think TRD is going to develope a SC for the corolla and the echo because they're making one for the celica and they "have the same engine".

CivicEater
04-17-2002, 02:57 PM
I never said that a subaru has the same bodyroll. what i said was.. if i had a subaru, i'd want to decrease the bodyroll..

and you call those rims fancy? WTF?? If you were an enthusiast, you'd realize those are only 15" rims, off an MR2 Spyder.. they're not fancy.. they're functional..

damn..

LjasonL
04-17-2002, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by CivicEater
Here's my question.. and yes.. i own a corolla...

QUESTION: WHY WOULD YOU BITCH ABOUT BODY ROLL IN A STOCK CAR?

i wasnt really bitching so much about just the body roll, but the entire suspension just sucked. i mean it was literally one of the worst handling cars ive ever driven.

but yes, your car does look nice. very clean. keep it that way. i would lower mine but then i wouldnt be able to do any off roading.

LjasonL
04-17-2002, 04:35 PM
and just lowering your car doesnt get rid of body roll, u need a stiffer spring rate, it doesnt even have to be lowered just stiffer. but then the cars all bouncy unless u get better shocks to go with it.

Nutly Nuts
04-17-2002, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Polygon


Here is a link (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t39336.html) to see some pics of his cars.

:eek2: DAAAAMMMN!!?! :eek2:



SWEEEET, those look ruff!!?!

:smoka: :bandit: :smoka:

GTS-4 Ben
04-17-2002, 08:58 PM
Ill get some pics of one of our cars, with a 200MPH speedo, getting close to the end ;)

Neutrino
04-18-2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by ldelaysionl
this 1st pic is the one i cut and zoomed in to make the pic in my signature. thats why the one in my sig looks finda messed up and fake.
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http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/8935092.JPG
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Ok please keep the hands on the whells when doing over 130 because that is just freaky.

CAptynCrunch
04-18-2002, 05:15 AM
neh, you only need one hand to keep the wheel straight, and one hand to work the camera. I'll bet a bag of doritos his left hand was on the bottom part of the wheel :)

Bishamon
04-18-2002, 03:03 PM
Actually, at least in Canada, the base model Altima is a better buy than the base Impreza. :D Mind you, I'd still rather have the AWD Impreza. ;)


I like my Corolla because a) it's one of the most reliable cars ever made, b) it was inexpensive, c) it's faster than the base model Focus, Civic, Accent and Rio, c) it's more reliable than the Civic, Focus, Neon, Accent, Rio, Cavalier, Sunfire, etc., and d) I think it looks good. :)

In Canada, the base model Impreza 2.5TS costs $21,995 vs. $15,290 for the base Corolla; that's a significant difference. Sure, I would have loved to get the Subaru, but after having purchased a condo less than 3 months before, I frankly couldn't afford it.

You can't compare the 1ZZ-FE VVT-i based Corollas with cars that easily outclass them, but they will outperform the other cars in their class, including the 127HP VTEC equipped 2002 Civics.

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