Ferrari Stratedale VS Noble M12 !!

Ferrari Stratedale VS Noble M12 ?? What do u think Personally I think the noble wins in almost ever aspect of performance and most IMPORTANT price!! 56,000 usd 0-60 3.9 5 speed manual! wow Y can ferrari make bargains like that? :banghead:

Personally, I like the Ferrari. Ferrari's are not about the numbers.

BTW, it's "Stradale." :)

I prefer V8 NA power.

I prefer V8 NA power.

V8 cant argue with that thats for sure. How ever weight :uhoh: the noble weighs 2133 pounds thats less then the Mclaren F1!

The toyota MR-2 spyder also weighs less than a McLaren F1. The McLaren is still a better car, though.

tHE MR2 doesnt have a supercharged six does it now or 360 hp 360 tq or a full body aerodynamics!! Not to mention a 5 speed racing trans and twin turbos.

or ford mondeo parts....

or ford mondeo parts....

True true did u c the video??

the thing is, in terms of quality of product, ignoring all of the figures, the noble has a long way to go until it reaches the standards of ferrari and the rest (the prices of which, ferrari especially are a little suspect in the first place)

if noble were to produce their own parts instead of raiding available parts bins, the cost of their cars would rise accordingly.

i would say the ferrari stradale comparison, is a bit unfair as you are comparing a car that has gone through a further stage of production from the standard road car that is rather high tech to begin with.
i think a more suitable comparison would be that of the noble vs a tvr (take your pick).
my reasoning is that tvrs are also british made, small volume, has bespoke parts made in house AND YET is still in the same price bracket as the noble.

I c but if you ask me ferrari does need a wake up call and this is jus the car to do it. But noble should stop lookin through other people trash lol. That does have a big part in price cut. I would still take a noble over a tvr anyday unless its a cerebra speed 12 hehe I wish.

For all you who havent seen the video here it is the link.
www.1clubspeed.com (http://www.1clubspeed.com) Click the noble m12 link.

i wouldn't pick the speed12 (either of them).
if i was to go fora tvr i think it would have to be the old 4.5 v8 cerbera just cos it's so bloody brutal in execution.
also, it has four seats just to add to the madness!

Ferrari can pretty much charge whatever they want for their cars - people will still buy them since to most buyers they are much more than supercars, they are priceless works of art.

The Noble is incredible. I've read a few roadtests and they all praise the cars handling. I honestly don't mind the Ford Mondeo parts as long as it works and apparently it works very well.

Personally I love the Stradale, not because it's a Ferrari but because it's an awesome car. If it was made by Yugo I would still buy it, I wouldn't care about the badge. I would also drive it within an inch of it's life at the track without feeling guilty about it.

well, the thing with cars such as ferrari, lamborghini, tvr, porsche, bmw, lotus etc etc is that they are 'complete' cars.
everything about them feels right; from the outside design to the materials used inside.
even when that interior is over-designed as it is in a cerbera with it's bespoke hand machined controls, it still feels right.
i really hate to say this but i can see how the interior, and some of the exterior details of the m12 (especially the gto3) need a lot of work.

sometimes, a fantastic drive isn't enough.
but then, the fact that noble aren't charging anything like ferrari prices for their cars shows that they are fully aware of their place.
i like to think of them as being very similar to where lotus were fifteen /twenty years ago.
just imagine where they would be in ten years.

that's what ferrari should be thinking about.

well, the thing with cars such as ferrari, lamborghini, tvr, porsche, bmw, lotus etc etc is that they are 'complete' cars.
everything about them feels right; from the outside design to the materials used inside.
even when that interior is over-designed as it is in a cerbera with it's bespoke hand machined controls, it still feels right.
i really hate to say this but i can see how the interior, and some of the exterior details of the m12 (especially the gto3) need a lot of work.

sometimes, a fantastic drive isn't enough.
but then, the fact that noble aren't charging anything like ferrari prices for their cars shows that they are fully aware of their place.
i like to think of them as being very similar to where lotus were fifteen /twenty years ago.
just imagine where they would be in ten years.

that's what ferrari should be thinking about.
However give noble time I think they might have a shot at being a dominant factor in gt class racing (ect le mans or lower level racing) + I think there quality and reputability will go up over the years as time progresses. I think were seeing a supercar company in its early stages of forming. I have a feeling we ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. :biggrin:

Ferrari Stratedale VS Noble M12 ?? What do u think Personally I think the noble wins in almost ever aspect of performance and most IMPORTANT price!! 56,000 usd 0-60 3.9 5 speed manual! wow Y can ferrari make bargains like that? :banghead:

Man, edit that ''stratedale'' in the title! It hurts my eyes! We are the ones people who come here expect to be informed from! :biggrin:

Personally I would never ever buy that Noble. It looks like a badly assembled kit. And for that, 56000 US is almost too much. AND YES I know how it goes and handles but let's not forget you buy these toys (cause this is what they are - they don't serve any practical purpose) for your pleasure and pleasure is not only in the numbers.... So if not a Ferrari because of the price something cheaper but more pleasing to the eye than this!

:2cents:

it's not early.
they've been in business for quite some time now.

anyway,
let's not forget you buy these toys (cause this is what they are - they don't serve any practical purpose) for your pleasure and pleasure is not only in the numbers
that's why i mentioned the TreVoR cerbera.
despite being madder than a bulldog in heat with no ladies present, it's also quite a practical car!

see, you can have your cake and eat it.

in case you haven't guessed, i'm quite a fan of the cerbera.
i like the fact that there's a little button that you can press that lets the cpu to switch to a different fuel map when you use 97 octane instead of boggo unleaded.

I think the noble is damn good lookin. and Isn't the Cerebra computer like the r34 GTR in that sense.

i have no idea about the r34.
not sure if it means much to you guys in the states cos i'm not sure of you have two grades of petrol at the pump.
you might've guessed by now that we do...

the first m12 was ok....
but nothing special.
i quite liked the simplicity of the nose.
not too sure about the new headlight treatment on the GTO3.

in any case, if you haven't seen the insides of a cerbera, go find some pics of the interior.
no other car in the world comes close.
it really puts noble to shame.

i have no idea about the r34.
not sure if it means much to you guys in the states cos i'm not sure of you have two grades of petrol at the pump.
you might've guessed by now that we do...

the first m12 was ok....
but nothing special.
i quite liked the simplicity of the nose.
not too sure about the new headlight treatment on the GTO3.

in any case, if you haven't seen the insides of a cerbera, go find some pics of the interior.
no other car in the world comes close.
it really puts noble to shame.


We have 3 different petrols hehehe:iceslolan

octane grades i mean.
here the typical is 95 and another 97 is offered at most stations.

like i said.
i have no idea what you have in the states.

octane grades i mean.
here the typical is 95 and another 97 is offered at most stations.

like i said.
i have no idea what you have in the states.

No only 1 because of emission aka EPA!! :angryfire ~ I hate them.

tHE MR2 doesnt have a supercharged six does it now or 360 hp 360 tq or a full body aerodynamics!! Not to mention a 5 speed racing trans and twin turbos.

The noble i believe has a TWIN TURBO inline 6

The noble i believe has a TWIN TURBO inline 6

Nah cause I read a thing on it and it has the turbo's glued on by somecheap adheasive. Its a ford supercharged v6. inline is too long too long. look at the pics.

Wait nvm its is an inline im thinkin of a staig six silly me. But its still supercharged :evillol: heres a pic ~
http://www.mindlink1.freeserve.co.uk/M12/vw_10.jpg

Wait your right it is a an inline six im thinkin of a strait six silly me. But its still supercharged:evillol: heres a pic ~ http://www.mindlink1.freeserve.co.uk/M12/vw_10.jpg

...it's a V6.
Twin Turbo.

except for the upcoming GTC.

As mentioned it is for sure a twinturbo duratec v6. And kudos to noble for doing their best to bring us such a performance car at such a price. i could care less if they used for or even daewoo parts. its the result that matters.

Thankyou some1 see's the positivity of this car manufacturer. Noble is awsome as far as bang for the buck not the vette.

The Noble is cheap cuz' it doesn't have the pedigree of the Ferrari. A 360CS is built with parts made just for it and it’s ready to hit the track straight from the Dealer lot. No work really needs to be done. The Noble is much more of a mechanic's car. Heck, can't you save even more money on an M12 if you get the kit to build it yourself? The Noble will need to have an owner capable of adjusting and fine tuning.

In short, the 360 is tweaked by the pros....an M12 you tweak yourself.

If you can't work on a car, the Noble is a bad way to go. Otherwise, the Noble (IMO) is better suited to a comparison with an F40.

You dont consider lotus a pedigree of racing?

Not the same level of pedigree. The purebred is refined, pure, and expensive. But that doesn't mean you can't teach a mutt a few good tricks.

That’s why instead of buying a 360 I'd buy an Elise, a Cayenne Turbo, and a trailer to connect the Elise to the Cayenne. :D

Lotus gt1 has an insane dominance in the british torneys. Lotus dosent have the history though. How ever the new 430 is Fuc*ing awful :puke: FERRARI <

Also, the Ferrari just looks better...

DEAD THREAD

I think ferrari will always make cars that will be better then the rest , when a new car from another brand will come out ( like a noble or a GT40 ) then ferrari will start designing and will create what they will call the ultimate sportscar , better then their rival carbrands

also less reliable too....