Questions re:"CAI"

is it ok to put a CAI on a really stock B16A (JDM SPECS)?i've read that it's better than the shortram.but it also says there that the disadvantage of CAI is that it will have a hard time getting air?need yout comments coz i found a site of how to da a CAI,i think it's kinda easy that's why i wan to know the pro's and con's of it.

THANKS A LOT!!!

CAI gets more, and colder air. Its way better.

not many pros or cons. cold air or short ram, you will see minimal gains. i would go with cold air because its better than sucking up hot engine air. either way its only 2-3 whp.

as far as saying it has a hard time getting air, yeah cold air intakes can cause you to lose a bit of low end power (1 or 2 hp, very minimal/unnoticable) due to the fact it has longer intake piping than stock, but honda motors arent made for low end power anyways so who cares?

The problem, or so I hear with CAIs, its that if u drive thru a deep puddle, where the water gets over the air filter, it will suck water into the engine... So if u live in an area that floods alot, then I wouldnt go with the CAI... But there are things counteract the floods, AEM makes a bypass valve which prevents water from getting passed, and only air gets in... Theres also some CAIs that the end comes off, and turns into a ram air intake... I live in Louisiana (sub-tropical weather, where it rains every other day :banghead:), and I plan on getting one, im just gonna be carefull...

I think a long cai ruins throttle response

Yeah I would go with ram air if you have cai you have to take the downpipe off whenever it rains especially if you have it lowered

I think a CAI is nothing but a good value for the dollar mod. They can be done for quite cheap and the resluts favour the cost.

If you're worried about driving in deep water (where the whole filter could be submerged for some reason) then get a bypass valve, problem solved!

If my whole filter is underwater, I got other serious problems to worry about... my front bumper sits 2" off the ground that means the water would be up to about eh 8" above the door line.

Exactly. So basically a CAI is a worry free cheap effective mod.

2in off the ground, you would scrape on hard turns and thats impossible to go straight over a speed bump. lol that must suck.

no scrapege on hard turns, spring rate is something like 450 front, 420 back, cant remember the exact number, stiff.... canyon carver. As for speed bumps, I live in a small town and I cant name a single place besides my old high school that has speed bumps. I do drag on lots of stuff... I think I should lift it back up a little, but whats the fun in that. I love pulling up next to bagged S10's and saying "Mines lower than yours"

CAI is a much better alternative to a ram pod exposed to the engine bay - particularly in summer. Air density decreases with heat leading to a poor A/F charge.

Personally, I tested CAI vs ram vs stock box with high flow reusable insert and the CAI and insert won hands down in real life - the ram won with the bonnet open and a fan on it on the dyno. I don't think I'm likely to be driving anywhere with the bonnet wide open though. Dunno if it's the design of the SiR airbox or not (I have my doubts) but the car was as quick around the track over 10 laps with both CAI and insert so I've stuck to the insert. Ram pod lost me 1.3sec consistantly over 10 laps compared to the other two. This was in summer here though - 38-42 degree celsius heat on the day. An average day and the ram was tested when temps were at their coolest. I'd hate to think what the ram would have done on a really hot day :?

heh, bonnet


For the little kiddies thats hood.

heh, bonnet


For the little kiddies thats hood.
:grinno: Im still sticking with my throttle response theory though. I hate when its real delayed.

do i need to advance my timing when using a CAI?

dude all a CIA is is a higher flow for the intake. You dont need to adjust timing you dont need to worry alot about bypass valves. Just throw it on there and dont worry about it, and go enjoy your extra 2hp.

ok...i just want to avoid the hassles of changing my intake when it's raining.down here in the philippines,we have floods knee high...

:grinno: Im still sticking with my throttle response theory though. I hate when its real delayed.

I never experienced it with either the test CAI or my airbox :)

Like I said - I was RL testing - I guess Honda got the airbox right :)

:grinno: Im still sticking with my throttle response theory though. I hate when its real delayed.

You're just sticking with a theory you made up because you don't have a CAI?! Its been proven, CAI make more power than a short ram. Throttle response? More power = more response.

Throttle response? More power = more response.
It all depends on where in your powerband you make the power. Like i said, you can actually lose a couple low end ponies b/c of the longer than stock piping of a CAI.

I know CAI are better than short ram and all. But seriously if you have time some day, go put a cone filter directly on your throttle body. Throttle response will be mad quick. With the CAI on there it will be longer. Im not tryin to fool ya :icon16:

It all depends on where in your powerband you make the power. Like i said, you can actually lose a couple low end ponies b/c of the longer than stock piping of a CAI.

Low end power? Fuck, we always seem to get on this subject (with everyone).. Are you modding your car so its easier to just cruize around with and do the speed limit? No, you're modding your car so when you get on it, it goes faster. When you're trying to accelerate quickly, how much power you make at 3,500 really doesn't F'n matter because you're not drooping that low in the powerband, you're staying up top.

yeah yeah yeah but you arent above 5k all the time are yah? when your cruisin sometimes its nice to get a crisp throttle response.