Honduh VS. Sentra SpecV (RANT.... with other cars)

Okay.... Hey Geo btw.

Anywho..... i went test driving cars this weekend with my dad.

RSX..... Nice, no pickup worth crap.
RSX-S .... Nice, no torque worth monkeys, handles like a dream though.
WRX......This car is orgasmic for everything except the rear end looks.
Celica GTS - Car is POS. Visibility is bad. Handling is bad. The redline is 8.... When i took it around the block with the dealer and punched it... VVL (Vtec) hit at 6..... then 7 came around... i hit the rev limiter. at SEVEN!!!!!... not EIGHT!...... Wheres my last thousand RPM?!?!! Toyota can suck it.

Nissan ....
Sentra SE-R Auto - Shifts like butter.. so smooth. Nice pickup.... only problem is the 1-2-Drive. Theres no 3....
Sentra SE-R Spec V - I love this car. I want to marry it. I hope the trunk can have my babies. Seriously...... so nice... and the dealer (Baker Jackson Nissan...... Mossy Nissan is out of Spec V's ) is awesome.

Today... i went to Honda. TO visit the s2000...
Pulled up, a scrawny looking Indian guy (looked 18 or 19) got up and asked what i was looking for. I said s2000, civic SI, prelude Vtec.
Preludes.... stopped making em. Civic SI... nope no more. S2000..... only one left and my dad said no haha. It was marked up to $38K!!!!!.... List price is 26000 and marked to 32000! I argued for 32k list pricee for a while.. but dealer was stubborn and said they bought the car for 32k. I said bullsh!t.
I said fine.... show me what you have for civics. He tried to sell me a Civic EX for 26k. 126hp VTEC. I said no...... and started talking about the SpecV for 17K with 175hp. Then he gave me mumbo jumbo about Civic looking like a real sports car.....and people liking civic better...




Moral of the story (If you find this story pretty cr@ppy and junky....) : Honda can suck it... except for non-marked up s2000's.

NISSAN !!!!

My 2 cents....
-Phil



**EDIT: George..... Goodson Honduh sucks.

i'll take the REX!! :D

Originally posted by ricecube77
Okay.... Hey Geo btw.

Anywho..... i went test driving cars this weekend with my dad.

RSX..... Nice, no pickup worth crap.
RSX-S .... Nice, no torque worth monkeys, handles like a dream though.
WRX......This car is orgasmic for everything except the rear end looks.
Celica GTS - Car is POS. Visibility is bad. Handling is bad. The redline is 8.... When i took it around the block with the dealer and punched it... VVL (Vtec) hit at 6..... then 7 came around... i hit the rev limiter. at SEVEN!!!!!... not EIGHT!...... Wheres my last thousand RPM?!?!! Toyota can suck it.

Nissan ....
Sentra SE-R Auto - Shifts like butter.. so smooth. Nice pickup.... only problem is the 1-2-Drive. Theres no 3....
Sentra SE-R Spec V - I love this car. I want to marry it. I hope the trunk can have my babies. Seriously...... so nice... and the dealer (Baker Jackson Nissan...... Mossy Nissan is out of Spec V's ) is awesome.

Today... i went to Honda. TO visit the s2000...
Pulled up, a scrawny looking Indian guy (looked 18 or 19) got up and asked what i was looking for. I said s2000, civic SI, prelude Vtec.
Preludes.... stopped making em. Civic SI... nope no more. S2000..... only one left and my dad said no haha. It was marked up to $38K!!!!!.... List price is 26000 and marked to 32000! I argued for 32k list pricee for a while.. but dealer was stubborn and said they bought the car for 32k. I said bullsh!t.
I said fine.... show me what you have for civics. He tried to sell me a Civic EX for 26k. 126hp VTEC. I said no...... and started talking about the SpecV for 17K with 175hp. Then he gave me mumbo jumbo about Civic looking like a real sports car.....and people liking civic better...




Moral of the story (If you find this story pretty cr@ppy and junky....) : Honda can suck it... except for non-marked up s2000's.

NISSAN !!!!

My 2 cents....
-Phil


**EDIT: George..... Goodson Honduh sucks.



i use to work for the 3rd largest honda dealership in the nation (showcase honda down in phoenix, arizona)- if you want the hook up for an s2000 (the 2002 comes with a solid glass back window and 4 speakers instead of two) for 32k i can get you through all the bullshit and straight to the finance guys...

lemme know if you're interested.

also-

in the garage we have for sale: a 98 GS300 and a 98 GS400 both with 17 inch rims- lemme know if you're interested in buying one of these guys... just note though that in the pic- the rims have been swapped- so- chrome on blue one- matte finish rims on silver one. they look a lot better that way.

can be found at: http://www.pandapower.com/cars.jpg

thanks guys.


c.

Originally posted by cliffud

chrome on blue one- matte finish rims on silver one. they look a lot better that way.


c.

it looks like the blue GS has the matte finish and the silver has the chrome :p

yea yea yea-

that picture was taken a while ago

like- right this very second- the chrome rims are on the blue one... and the matte finish ones are on the silver one...

i said they were swapped already :rolleyes:

c.

oh yeah- i have a 93 240sx with 50,000 miles on it if anyone is interested too... we'll let that one go for 7k

2002 S2k?

Thought they only made S2k's for 2000 and 2001..... 5000 cars each year, Limited yellow and baby blue colors...


Anywho..... You've got mail ;)




Btw.... Honduh Civic sucks.

-Phil

So are you getting the car or your dad?

Get the WRX and back it into the driveway. Problem solved.

Just don't get the spoiler. :p

Originally posted by ricecube77
Today... i went to Honda. TO visit the s2000...
Pulled up, a scrawny looking Indian guy (looked 18 or 19) got up and asked what i was looking for. I said s2000, civic SI, prelude Vtec.
Preludes.... stopped making em. Civic SI... nope no more. S2000..... only one left and my dad said no haha. It was marked up to $38K!!!!!.... List price is 26000 and marked to 32000! I argued for 32k list pricee for a while.. but dealer was stubborn and said they bought the car for 32k. I said bullsh!t.

Moral of the story (If you find this story pretty cr@ppy and junky....) : Honda can suck it... except for non-marked up s2000's.

NISSAN !!!!

My 2 cents....
-Phil



**EDIT: George..... Goodson Honduh sucks.

The moral of the story. Always know what you are talking before making a post. Please go double check on S2000's MSRP before making another idiotic comment like this. I can't believe this crap you are saying here.

Originally posted by ricecube77
2002 S2k?

Thought they only made S2k's for 2000 and 2001..... 5000 cars each year, Limited yellow and baby blue colors...

Btw.... Honduh Civic sucks.

-Phil

Don't listen to the dealership bullshit. They sold 9000+ MY2001 S2000 worldwide last year alone.

Originally posted by F20C


The moral of the story. Always know what you are talking before making a post. Please go double check on S2000's MSRP before making another idiotic comment like this. I can't believe this crap you are saying here.

Back in 2001 when i worked for Showcase Honda (3rd largest dealership in the nation in volume) i DID see a few prices for s2000s that were marked up to 36k... - but the only reason was for dealer profit- they thought that hell- the market is doing so great- i'm going to make a few more Gs on this baby- so they marked it up accordingly...

so- perhaps he saw one of the cars at my old dealership :smoker:

right now- u can get them for 32k easily...

and the actual cost to the dealership is published on the internet- u can find that here: http://www.hondacarprices.com/find_display/pricing_page.pl/Honda/S2000/2_door_Conv/2002/options.html

to save you the click- invoice is 29,145 bucks and if that's not EXACT- i can tell you that it's not far off from being exact.

oh- one more thing- just for the sake of a laugh- the hardtop that's optional for the s2000 is $3,000 haaaaaaaaaaahahhahahaaaaa

uhh- yeah dood- lemme take three of those since it's so CHEAP!!!!

:licker:

c.

Originally posted by ricecube77
2002 S2k?

Thought they only made S2k's for 2000 and 2001..... 5000 cars each year, Limited yellow and baby blue colors...


Anywho..... You've got mail ;)




Btw.... Honduh Civic sucks.

-Phil

they definitely make a 2002 model... in fact- that baby blue color you speak of is one of the hottest colors for the car. i was thinking the other day about the s2000... very very well engineered vehicle...

for example: ceramic covered door handles (so on hot days- you won't burn your fingers opening the door) // electronic power steering so no power drain on motor // oil pump in the transmission case // in-wheel steering design (designed to ensure compact steering package to fit body design) // timing chain... not belt- (only other honda out there that has a timing chain is the 2002 CR-V) - but i know our G20s have 'em !! woo hoooooo... hehehe... anyways- enough ranting about how great the s2k is... it's 3:50 in the morning and i'm hella tired.

:smoker:

c.

Yeah, I'd like to see anyone get an S2000 under 30k. Those are expensive, but you get what you pay for. And one other thing, Celica GTS are not crappy at all, You can take a Celica GTS and stand a pretty good chance of beating an RSX-S if your a good dirver. Both give 100hp per litre.

i'm planning a rsx type S next to replace my civic hb...still waiting if the typeR version is gonna hit the shores. IS300 or 330i to replace my G20 after that.

no wrx for me, the styling is not good, hate the front headlights.
no sentra for me, the styling is not good either, the tail is really not my taste.
no civic for me, the styling not that great, looks like a walking shoe.
s2000 considering to buy to replace my prelude but i dont particulary like convertibles...

Originally posted by kenchan
IS300 or 330i to replace my G20 after that.

Howz about the G35 for a G20 replacement? I'll be the new G will blow away the IS300 and be pretty close to the 330i. :D

Originally posted by cliffud


Back in 2001 when i worked for Showcase Honda (3rd largest dealership in the nation in volume) i DID see a few prices for s2000s that were marked up to 36k... - but the only reason was for dealer profit- they thought that hell- the market is doing so great- i'm going to make a few more Gs on this baby- so they marked it up accordingly...

so- perhaps he saw one of the cars at my old dealership :smoker:

right now- u can get them for 32k easily...

and the actual cost to the dealership is published on the internet- u can find that here: http://www.hondacarprices.com/find_display/pricing_page.pl/Honda/S2000/2_door_Conv/2002/options.html

to save you the click- invoice is 29,145 bucks and if that's not EXACT- i can tell you that it's not far off from being exact.

oh- one more thing- just for the sake of a laugh- the hardtop that's optional for the s2000 is $3,000 haaaaaaaaaaahahhahahaaaaa

uhh- yeah dood- lemme take three of those since it's so CHEAP!!!!

:licker:

c.

Yes dealer markup was a problem for 2000 and 2001 models. However if you are smart and do some research you can easily find a dealer selling for 32K MSRP. I bought my MY2001 in July 2000 for MSRP as well.

You should check the hardtop price for Boxter.

Originally posted by cliffud


they definitely make a 2002 model... in fact- that baby blue color you speak of is one of the hottest colors for the car. i was thinking the other day about the s2000... very very well engineered vehicle...

for example: ceramic covered door handles (so on hot days- you won't burn your fingers opening the door) // electronic power steering so no power drain on motor // oil pump in the transmission case // in-wheel steering design (designed to ensure compact steering package to fit body design) // timing chain... not belt- (only other honda out there that has a timing chain is the 2002 CR-V) - but i know our G20s have 'em !! woo hoooooo... hehehe... anyways- enough ranting about how great the s2k is... it's 3:50 in the morning and i'm hella tired.

:smoker:

c.

The color you are talking about is Suzuka Blue. That color is not my taste actually. It looks like silver from far away since it's so light. Just like the new Sebring Silver looks like white from far away.

The engine S2000 is using is like the ones from JGTC in the early 90's.

Originally posted by G-Forces

Howz about the G35 for a G20 replacement? I'll be the new G will blow away the IS300 and be pretty close to the 330i. :D

G35 will blow away 330i.

Performance chart

3. IS300
2. 330i
1. G35

Originally posted by G-Forces

Howz about the G35 for a G20 replacement? I'll be the new G will blow away the IS300 and be pretty close to the 330i. :D

Uhm... are we comparing the 255 or 260HP (forget what they keep changing it to) G35 to a 330i??? They all weigh about the same, so I'd say the Lexus and Bimmer would have nice views of the G35's ass end. :D

Originally posted by b-b00gie
Bimmer :D
I don't bar getting easy posts so sorry b-b00gie. Beemer.

bar -mind:D

gforces- naw, no more nissan for me. had enough problems with the previous altima and this g20. lost my interests to purchase nissans. but i like my p11 dispite the lacking j-quality it has. its a great looking little sedan and shifts are smooth as silk. :D

i don't need to blow away other cars... i just drive what I like if it's a fun good lookin car, then it's for me. :D if I need to blow away cars off the line and threw the curves, then i'll get a sports car.

Originally posted by Mrcoilover
Originally posted by b-b00gie
Bimmer :D
I don't bar getting easy posts so sorry b-b00gie. Beemer.

bar -mind:DI actually just learned this yesterday:

"Bimmer" is for the cars; "Beemer" is for the motorcycles. Who knew? :D

Originally posted by kenchan
gforces- naw, no more nissan for me. had enough problems with the previous altima and this g20. lost my interests to purchase nissans. but i like my p11 dispite the lacking j-quality it has. its a great looking little sedan and shifts are smooth as silk. :D

See I never had a problem with the quality in the G. Maybe you just got an early Monday morning car. :D

Originally posted by b-b00gie


Uhm... are we comparing the 255 or 260HP (forget what they keep changing it to) G35 to a 330i??? They all weigh about the same, so I'd say the Lexus and Bimmer would have nice views of the G35's ass end. :D
That's what I'm thinking but we'll see what we actually get. Given Nissan's rep lately of not offering up to thier early expectations.

If they live up to the current spec of the G35 all they have to do is offer a 6spd manual and I'm sold. :D

Originally posted by Mrcoilover

I don't bar getting easy posts so sorry b-b00gie. Beemer.

bar -mind:D

I dont mind being corrected when I'm wrong, BUT... you are the one who is incorrect.


Learn your BMW history. It's Bimmer. Say "Beemer" in front of a real BMW enthusiast and you may get slugged!! :D

Originally posted by jay@af
I actually just learned this yesterday:

"Bimmer" is for the cars; "Beemer" is for the motorcycles. Who knew? :D


Actually I think all BMW's (moto or autos) around the world are nicknamed "Bimmers".


I believe the term "Beemer" came from snootie American yupies who would graduate college and establish thier "sucessfulness" by driving "Beemers". Of course this did not go over too well with the "Bimmer" fans. ;)


I may be incorrect about the moto thing, but I've never heard that one, and I know lots of "Bimmer" folk. :p

Originally posted by b-b00gie


I dont mind being corrected when I'm wrong, BUT... you are the one who is incorrect.


Learn your BMW history. It's Bimmer. Say "Beemer" in front of a real BMW enthusiast and you may get slugged!! :D

I thought the whole Bimmer/Beemer thing was made up for a nickname and is spelled according to the sound of it.:eek: The way you spell it sounds like (bym-er) rymes with dimmer or trimmer.:bloated: I guess it should be called B'mer. :D Hope I don't get hit too hard, but I'ma stay with my gut feeling.:silly:

gforces- gahahahaha!!! :D monday morning car. hehehe, perhaps!!! hehehe. :p man, they were drinkin' too much sake over the weekend...

in japan, we call them "bm"

Originally posted by Mrcoilover

The way you spell it sounds like (bym-er) rymes with dimmer or trimmer.:bloated: I guess it should be called B'mer. :D


It should rhyme with dimmer and trimmer ;) cause its a Bimmer!!

Originally posted by b-b00gie



It should rhyme with dimmer and trimmer ;) cause its a Bimmer!!
That sucks. That sounds stupid. Well, that's how everyone says it down here in tex. Who got da keys to ma' Beema. I haven't got confirmation on this yet.

OK. Jay@AF was correct...

Bimmers = BMW cars
Beemers or Beamers = BMW motorcycles


I guess the ignorant yupies just call them all Beemers.

http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/reference/bimmer-beemer.html


Bimmer! Bim-mer! BIM-MER.. say it with me now Mr.Coilover.. BIMMER!!!

Originally posted by kenchan
IS300 or 330i to replace my G20 after that.

Why not get a G35. It will walk all over the IS300 (not to mention that it is different, I've been seeing too many IS300s), It will definatly be quicker than a 330i, and will probably handle at least as well. Not to mention that the G35 is going to be inexpensive when compared to the IS300 and BMW 3series of equal caliber.

Originally posted by b-b00gie
OK. Jay@AF was correct...

Bimmers = BMW cars
Beemers or Beamers = BMW motorcycles


I guess the ignorant yupies just call them all Beemers.

http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/reference/bimmer-beemer.html


Bimmer! Bim-mer! BIM-MER.. say it with me now Mr.Coilover.. BIMMER!!! Yeah, I'd like to give a shout out to
b-b00gie:finger4: . You're very funny dawg. I'll say it with you ...(Dik-hed). he he . Nah, I guess I'll have to go with the band wagon on this one. No contest judge. I think Jay@af needs to be demoted from moderator to playerhater. j/k. I'd also like to give special thanks to Jay@af for all of his help in this situation.:finger4: :D

Originally posted by Mrcoilover
I'll say it with you ...(Dik-hed)

Hmm? You can message me privately if you like :)


This topic has gotten way off topic :bloated:

Originally posted by b-b00gie


Hmm? You can message me privately if you like, but dont stoop to name calling here. :) I'm sorry you took that personally. I meant no flame:flamer: in any way shape or fashion dawg. :bloated: I guess I should have put one of these :) next to it. It's all harmless fun so you should know I don't want any of this:biggrin2: Now I feel silly.:( :silly: Matter of fact... a little light-headed too.:smoka: :bandit: :bonghitte :buck

hehe... I know. ;)

Originally posted by b-b00gie
Hmm...
This topic has gotten way off topic :bloated:

Let me help. Yeah I saw a spec V just a couple of days ago. And then I saw a S2000 not too long ago. Why are these 2 cars in the same discussion?:silly2:

mrc- good point. :o :bloated: