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DHCollecting
06-03-2004, 10:15 PM
I am getting all this for my 04 Civic:
2 Kicker Solo Baric L7 12"
Both subs will be going into a ported enclosure
Rockford Fosgate 1001BD Mono Amp

What can I do to make it better?
Thanks

Icantgetno
06-04-2004, 08:14 AM
Wow, you do realise to get the base you want you need at least a 5 cubic foot enclosure right? good luck fitting it in there. The solobaric was designed to perform in a sealed enclosure (I realise they are sweet in vented enclosures too) I would just go with the sealed and see if you aint happy with it, I bet you would be.

sofast
06-04-2004, 09:04 AM
Wow, you do realise to get the base you want you need at least a 5 cubic foot enclosure right? good luck fitting it in there. The solobaric was designed to perform in a sealed enclosure (I realise they are sweet in vented enclosures too) I would just go with the sealed and see if you aint happy with it, I bet you would be.


Definitly a sealed inclosure. It sounds like you have a good start with what you are working with. What are you using for a head unit? And what are you using for your high end?

Icantgetno
06-04-2004, 10:27 AM
High end? whats that? all you need is bass right? J/K

DHCollecting
06-05-2004, 07:35 PM
5 cubic feet? Thats alot.
I bought a vented enclosure off ebay and its only 3.47 cubic feet.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5701577536&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
I am going to see how this sounds and then decide if the bass is lound enough.

For a head unit I have a Kenwood KDC-X879

I also bought a Alpine 4 channell amp to power speakers.
1 Farad Lightning Strike Digital Cap...is this enough?

Icantgetno
06-06-2004, 04:50 PM
I was going off the manuacturer recomended enclosure designs... when dealing with high end components its far better to go with components which are made to perform in the environment you are putting them rather than stuffing in a piece of equipment not designed to work like that. Yes a kicker solobaric would rock in a ported enclosure... but are you willing to give it the volume of air it needs to do so?

DHCollecting
06-06-2004, 10:07 PM
Recommended is 1.75-3.25...so for two it would be 3.5-6.6 cubic feet. So my box is 3.47...so its at the very low end. So i might be able to pull it off.

Icantgetno
06-07-2004, 08:40 PM
yes but that is smaller than the compact design of a ported enclosure and if you read the literiture it says to "ADD THE VOLUME OF THE PORT TO IT" which would make even the smallest one larger still. I Expect you would get much better performance from the sealed enclosure build to exact specifications vs. a vented enclosure built that far from optimum. anyone else wanna sound off on this?

Icantgetno
06-07-2004, 08:41 PM
http://www.kicker.com/images/manuals/04SL7%20Tech%20Brief.pdf

Fibreglass Junkie
06-07-2004, 09:15 PM
Mount the subs Inverted (magnet out) as this will increase the area inside the box. Only a tiny bit though. And remember to wire them up the wrong way round. I would get a battery not the cap!
I had a cap it was good 2 Tractor batteries were cheaper and now I can play all day engine off!

Fibreglass Junkie
06-07-2004, 09:21 PM
The system may hit hard or may not. My system is not loud but sounds cool and looks like it should be a lot louder than it is.
Phoenix Gold ZX600Ti briged into
RE Se 15 sub at 2 ohm to give 1200w from amp.
same amp running stereo at 4ohm
Crystal mobile sound 3way component speakers
Pioneer DEH77MP headunit
PG BassCube

Fibreglass Junkie
06-07-2004, 09:23 PM
NB: sub box not ported max Db 130.something

RT Thunder Rider
06-08-2004, 10:20 AM
i only use kicker and jl audio subs in my car and to make those solo barics pound use a sealed box and switch the amp to a kicker KX1200.1. the rockford amps are good... but not like a kicker amp.if u want to destroy all the systems around u get the kicker kx1200.1 and thats just what ur going to do.

Icantgetno
06-09-2004, 10:10 AM
Mount the subs Inverted (magnet out) as this will increase the area inside the box.
Not to mention that with high current loads this style of mounting also improves cooling as the air which the magnet etc. is in does not remain stale, it circulated with fresh air.

PaulD
06-09-2004, 05:56 PM
funny, the guy asked how it would sound - and the only thing he listed was subs and amp

T-Racer
06-17-2004, 04:40 PM
what about the pair of speaks in the front? don't tell me your using stock! :O

DHCollecting
06-18-2004, 12:40 AM
Hell NO!!
The first thing I did was get rid of the stock speakers.
I am using Kicker K60's 2 Way for all 4 speakers powered by the Alpine F240 4 Chan
For my headunit I have a Kenwood Excelon X879.

As for Paul D (moderator) I don't understand your question????

Icantgetno
06-18-2004, 08:56 AM
I highly doubted you would.

Cman333
06-19-2004, 02:40 AM
I am getting all this for my 04 Civic:
2 Kicker Solo Baric L7 12"
Both subs will be going into a ported enclosure
Rockford Fosgate 1001BD Mono Amp

What can I do to make it better?
Thanks
I assume the kicker L7's are Dual 4 ohms

1001BD isn't 1 ohm stable and running it at 4 ohms is a waste. I would suggest running a 1001BD for each sub because these subs need ALOT of juice.


I personally had a dvc 2 ohm 12L5 running off a U-dimension 2k1 AMP (1000+ watts @ 1 ohm) and it handled it with EASE. I actually beat out most ppl that have 2-4 subs, i hit 143 on an audiocontrol mic. So quite honestly running a 1001 BD for each sub would be the ideal setup. Well I would actually suggest a better amp cuz RF kinda licks balls. I used to run a partial sponsorship and i cannot even begin to tell you HOW many amps and SUBS came DEAD on arrival. Like seriously how does someone get 2 defective 500BD's IN A ROW? And a defective HX2? All shipped staright from RF in AZ. Figure that out. They supposedly HAND TEST each amp and sub but yet I happened to get two screwy amps becuase it was a "bad batch" of 500BD's. Anyways my 2 cents

DHCollecting
06-22-2004, 12:01 AM
The only thing I have ever used are RF Amps and they have always been reliable. I use to run one 12L7 Solo with a 351M at 2 Ohms and it was loud for only using 375 watts.
I assumed if I can get 500 watts @2 ohms for each L7 it will be much lounder.

GWInquisitor14
06-24-2004, 02:40 AM
dude just check out my signature, that shit hits SO DAMN hard. It shakes the fuck out of my trunk in my grand prix and the spoiler really bad. I have the gains turned down yet they are still loud. The only reason im selling it is so help fund my turbocharger and i dont want the weight in the back. Kicker are pretty good subs but i dont like rockford shit. Make me an offer. My friend blew his rockford subs 30 mins after having them, didn't even over power them. I know 1 person who blew his amp somehow and another guy who just doesn't like it cuz its weak.

DHCollecting
06-24-2004, 11:25 AM
Thanks for the offer but I will take my chances and see how this setup sounds first.
I have been doing way to many things and haven't had time to set it up.

civic_racing_01
06-24-2004, 05:59 PM
hello,

if u can get it to fit it will sound very nice.
i have 1 15" kicker solobaric l7 in my 95 civic and it is so loud its anoing sometimes.
how much are u getting the solos for becouse i have a brand new one for sale if u would like.i brought 2 but only 1 would fit and all i have is a regulare box.


thanks

DHCollecting
06-24-2004, 09:59 PM
You have an extra Solo 12 inch L7 or Solo 15 inch L7??
I would only be interest in the 12 Inch and not the new model either.

Thanks

civic_racing_01
08-01-2004, 06:34 AM
hello,


no i have a extra 15" kicker solobaric L715 square

sorry

lookn4sound
09-21-2005, 02:42 PM
wut a lot of people need to realize is that sound is soo much more then just the lows...it involves highs and mids too...ive realized a lot of people i know tend to just buy huge subs and amps and think they have an ultimate system but they really only have 1/3rd. if you really want us to help u with how ur system sounds, u need to tell us the deck, speakers amps and subs so that we can picture the entire thing...

AndonD454
09-22-2005, 11:41 PM
so what if hes just interested in how his subs sound?? how many people do you know that started their interest in car audio with top of the line 3 way components? thats what i thought. subs appeal to people first. let him be the judge of how it sounds without good components and hell realize over time that he has to upgrade his front stage.

to the original poster... L7s are great subs for spl and can be decent for SQ, but tiny sealed boxes are not exactly wonderful for L7s. yeah yeah low EBP theyre better sealed than vented.. its all BS. L7s are vented subs end of story. you might have to just suck it up and sell one of em so that you can put one L7 in a proper enclosure and sent it plenty of power. i think youd be surprised how loud a single well done L7 12 install can be.

thats just my suggestion though.. but good luck fitting 2 L7s ported in proper enclosures (bigger than you think prolly.. not just kicker lowest recommended.. more like towards the higher end of recommendations.) in a civic trunk.

pimprolla112
09-23-2005, 12:55 AM
He if he is just after some then selling one nd making one enclosure aould be his best bet. Or he could sell them both and look into an RE-MT15". Get a 2500rms amp and put in a 5cuft ported enclosure he could be just as loud with that single 15 as he would with 2 solobarics (noah hit like 151 with the 15 and fryman hit 144 with an avalanche 18). Bass is one part of a system but i see people riding around with nothing but bass coming out of there car sounds like shit but whatever gets you off. My friend has 2-15"L7's with a boss 4800watt amp probably closer to 1200 and to tell you the truth it sounds like shit, cant here any lyircs or actua music just bass and tha bass doesnt even sound that good granted you can hear it from about a 1/2 mile away it still sounds horrible. The new hifonics amps are rated better than they used to be they are more acurrate. As for rockford unless its power series its usualy junk so its not worth the grnad for a 1500rms amp whan you can get a PPI, Hifonics, or cadence amp for about 1/3 the price. Like i have to post when someone starts bitching about whats good and whats not car audio is about personaly preference, buying 3 or 4 g's of audio equipment isnt going to gve you the best system its takes proper tuning, proper enclosure, a good balance between speakers and bass and well it can take alot of effort before having something good. Good luck with everything and do some research if your getting a bigger amp look into the "big 3" dont waste money on a cap unles you really need it.

Mannyb18b
12-18-2005, 03:23 AM
I was just about to say that :disappoin . And what kind of setup is your SE 15 in?
But ya i would worry about your Front Stage, an then work to the Sub Stage....its only a small part of the frequency range of music ya know

germanyt
12-18-2005, 01:58 PM
sorry for a waste of a post but i had to jump on lookin4sound. youre in here talking about what a great system should be and look what your running. stock 6 1/2s, pioneer 6x9, sony deck, audiobahn. ha. i really hate to be the dickhead but that is the most garbage setup in this forum. work on your own before giving advice, please?

dantheman8328
12-18-2005, 02:24 PM
hahaha hey guys....check the date, this is from over a year ago.

Mannyb18b
12-18-2005, 02:27 PM
haha, but you forgot dude, its a 5200 WATT TOTAL SYSTEM. HAS TO BE THE BEST, cause I don't know anyone on AF with that many watts!

threedd97
12-18-2005, 02:27 PM
5 cubic feet? Thats alot.
I bought a vented enclosure off ebay and its only 3.47 cubic feet.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5701577536&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
I am going to see how this sounds and then decide if the bass is lound enough.

For a head unit I have a Kenwood KDC-X879

I also bought a Alpine 4 channell amp to power speakers.
1 Farad Lightning Strike Digital Cap...is this enough?

Never, EVER do that. You can't just buy any old prefabbed box for a sub, especially for 2 or more. That is way too small. I have a friend who used to run 2 12" L7's before he upped them to 2 15" L7's, and his box was bigger than mine and I have a 4 cf box for my 15" XXX. Your subs will sound like garbage in that enclosure. I recommend selling one of the subs and porting the other one correctly. Your civic ain't that big, trust me. You will NOT fit both of those subs in the proper enclosure and in your trunk. My enclosure barely fits in my Grand Prix trunk, and that is a pretty big trunk.

dantheman8328
12-18-2005, 02:34 PM
haha sarcasm i hope?

btw, theres NEVER such thing as too much bass!

threedd97
12-18-2005, 02:51 PM
sorry for a waste of a post but i had to jump on lookin4sound. youre in here talking about what a great system should be and look what your running. stock 6 1/2s, pioneer 6x9, sony deck, audiobahn. ha. i really hate to be the dickhead but that is the most garbage setup in this forum. work on your own before giving advice, please?

Who the hell are you and what in the world are you talking about?

Edit: Figured it out now. But you don't have to be so harsh to him. He may think what he has sounds good, and everyone has to learn and start somewhere, eh?

pimprolla112
12-19-2005, 01:11 AM
Not realy sure but yeah there is to much bass and t tell you the truth hitting 150 in a daily driver is a fucking milestone. I know its possible but its sure as hell not something anyone can do, and just cramming subs in a vehicle wont cut it. But hell il put my polks up against some setups not that there the best but they stomp for how old they are and how little power they have.

ngsm13
12-20-2005, 08:41 AM
Mine's kinda loud....er....


lol.

NG

germanyt
12-20-2005, 04:30 PM
Who the hell are you and what in the world are you talking about?

Edit: Figured it out now. But you don't have to be so harsh to him. He may think what he has sounds good, and everyone has to learn and start somewhere, eh?


mah bad, didn't mean to be an asshole, must be bumpinstangs old threads rubbin off on me, im gonna go shower.

CBFryman
12-21-2005, 05:31 PM
nOObX
as ngsm would say

CBFryman
12-21-2005, 05:35 PM
oh and Hitting 150dB on that AC isnt hard at all. Hell i could be doing it if i sacraficed my lows...it would be even easier with a different driver (XXX or SX).
Hitting 150dB on USB Term Lab ist a tad harder...but with some know how its doable.

Now being a mic queen and sounding good as well as getting the low lows in songs (aroudn and below 30Hz...rare in most rap songs) is a milestone.

pimprolla112
12-22-2005, 12:33 AM
Yeah i should have said its a milestone if you can hit 150 with a single driver and it still sounds good. I will agree that you could hit 150 but the people around here have 3 or 4 sub setups with shitty equipment they hit hard but they sound like shit. The other problem is either the "homies" want a ton of bass but they wont pay for it so they have some shitty farmers market subs and amps and the people who want the good shit think that kicker, audiobahn, jl and mtx are the car audio gods. Ive only met three people who have ever heard of RE, adire, cadence or any of the audiophile equipment. And ive only seen one setup with an RE sub.

ngsm13
01-24-2006, 10:49 PM
Why is this showing up?

NG

vinnym86
01-24-2006, 10:52 PM
cuz some n00bx, as you'd say it best, voted

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