help me buy markers!?

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I advise against buying a pack of markers. It is better to buy them separately because when you buy a pack most of the colors you buy you won't use.

I have the full range of grays and some warm grays.
To save some money just buy every other gray % or what you think you just need.

Get a black of course. Also get the fine black pen markers "Micron"

At the bare minimum you need two-body colors shade for each color you select to use on a car. I think three is better.

Get blues, reds, yellows + with your grays you can do silver colored cars. Yellows/oranges and reds are good because you need those for lights plus you can render that body color.

What brand are you getting?

7$ is a lot to pay for a beginner. They must be some kind of professional markers. A lot of artist use Primsacolor markers and I think most consider those to be professional grade. They run about $3.50 each.

If you have a Barnes&Nobles or Books-a-mil. go there and loiter and read the chapter on tools/markers. “How to Draw Cars Like a Pro” by Thom Taylor.

al

What kind of rendering? If it's simple sketching with marker/pastel (see my avy) then all you need is one or two per surface. I'd suggest 20, 30 and 60% warm greays and maybe a couple cool ones. 8$ a marker! That's absurd! I pay 2$CDN for Prisma markers each.

yeah I agree with asaenz and ansisk. I do alot of concept rendering because of the moter trend contest I have entered and because of that I know more about concepts. So I would steer you toward the less pricey prisma colours opposed to the ...erm... brand that I've never even heard of. Let's call em no name. Or copic works too!

Im not sure what a voucher is, does that mean you can get them from just one place? If not the try ebay, because I saw a very slightly used 48pack of prismacolor markers on there for $45 if you used buy it now. Very good deal, becuase around hear a 24 pack is $75

voucher=gift certificate basically

And I prefer prismacolors, good and cheap. But, they're your bones...

i would go with the colors that you were thinking and get them in prisma color. ive got 2 shades of red 2 shades of blue gray and black..also wtf is the "clear blender". like every1 esle said prisma color is a lot cheaper and they work perfectly....if those other ones you said are worth $7 then they would have to draw the picture for me.

It has all the same effect. If you certainly don't feel comfortable buying cheaper markers, check out Tria markers. They are made by Letraset, and they are good quality, I used to use them, but the ended up too much money for me to afford. Hey for everyone in Canada, check this site, it is absolutely amazing for markers
www.currys.com
Free shipping within Canada for orders of over 25$ and Prismas cost 2$ while Trias cost four.

Oh and BTW, I'd certainly avoid used markers. They can claim to be "lightly used" but they can be "heavily used" and you don't get a refund.

currys is a great art store, i have one by my house, always go there

used to be a walmart there too but it moved

damn economic something

if those other ones you said are worth $7 then they would have to draw the picture for me.

Give me 7 bucks for each of my fingers ill draw a picture for you :sunglasse

A lighter of every pretty colour you like. 20, 30 and 60% Warm Greys and a Black. So 4 colours and 4 shades. That's what I'd buy, but don't go out and blow yer money from my opinion.

7AUD=6.50CDN=4.80USD

IMO that's not worth the money, for a hanul of markers. But like you said, if there's no choice then there's no choice. OH! Forgot about paper! You gotta get some bleed-proof paper. Make it the middle size, not the huuuge pad but not the A4 sized ones.

If you are beginning just go for a set of gray/greys, and though prismacolors are standard I would recommend the trias because:

1.they are refillable
2.they have 3 tips large, medium & fine
3.prismacolors seem to dry up fast if you use them with any frequency.

If you are beginning just go for a set of gray/greys, and though prismacolors are standard I would recommend the trias because:

1.they are refillable
2.they have 3 tips large, medium & fine
3.prismacolors seem to dry up fast if you use them with any frequency.

Hi Tokes99

Is "Trias" the brand name?

Thx

al

Tria is the name of the marker, while Letraset is the company that makes them. BTW Tokes, I agree with you 100% on all three points. Hey Al, here's what I mean.

http://www.letraset.com/row/template6.asp?catid=44

If you pick up that rendering guide, there's even a car drawing tut.! But it is fairly poor and basic.

ok well, i have a $55 voucher, and markers are $7 each, so lets say i can only get 8, maybe 9 markers. Copic markers i

ken

wtf?!! $7 each?! wtf?!

get some ad markers by chartpak. get: warm grey 1-10, cool grey 1-10: these accentuate and tint glass, earth, etc, everything.

frost blue, light blue, pale indigo, cobalt -these cover metal, glass, and sky.

get: light sand, maize, black, pale cherry, brick red, sand, suntan: these will cover leather, skin, earth.

use a napkin or cosmetic sponge to smear colors for gradations. pure pigment cannot achieve subtle f/x of glass and metal.

get an airbrush. use gouache/acrylic highly diluted to create subltle f/x with light glinting off metal and head/taillights.

next: get the same or similar equivalent colors, all of them, in prismacolor marker.

you should have a set of chartpak ad's, and a set of prismacolor markers as standard-fare.

then get a set of tria markers of same or equivalent colors. why all of these? --texture, quality/feel of nibs, color variations, pigment variety across different manufacturers.

learn to do mixed media, mixed marker drawings. you will find the chartpaks excellent for broad, juicy sky coverages but shit for details. prismacolors are great for details like on tires and bumpers, but shit for glass and broad sky vistas.

good luck..

wtf?!! $7 each?! wtf?!

get some ad markers by chartpak. get: warm grey 1-10, cool grey 1-10: these accentuate and tint glass, earth, etc, everything.

frost blue, light blue, pale indigo, cobalt -these cover metal, glass, and sky.

get: light sand, maize, black, pale cherry, brick red, sand, suntan: these will cover leather, skin, earth.

use a napkin or cosmetic sponge to smear colors for gradations. pure pigment cannot achieve subtle f/x of glass and metal.

get an airbrush. use gouache/acrylic highly diluted to create subltle f/x with light glinting off metal and head/taillights.

next: get the same or similar equivalent colors, all of them, in prismacolor marker.

you should have a set of chartpak ad's, and a set of prismacolor markers as standard-fare.

then get a set of tria markers of same or equivalent colors. why all of these? --texture, quality/feel of nibs, color variations, pigment variety across different manufacturers.

learn to do mixed media, mixed marker drawings. you will find the chartpaks excellent for broad, juicy sky coverages but shit for details. prismacolors are great for details like on tires and bumpers, but shit for glass and broad sky vistas.

good luck..

Wow thats a great summary on markers bonzelite. What about these markers called Design2 or something like that, i have 3 of those. I used some once in a while in art class. Are those good?

you mean "design" markers? these are old. but they last for years though, very good brand. one of the best. today, they make markers to last about a few hours. gotta rape them broke artists.

i have an animosity towards current-day marker manufacturers. they intentionally make them shitty. i know because i know what they made in the '80s and today's markers are absolute crap. they're great when they're wet, but when they dry out, you want to throw them across the f$cking room.

you mean "design" markers? these are old. but they last for years though, very good brand. one of the best. today, they make markers to last about a few hours. gotta rape them broke artists.

i have an animosity towards current-day marker manufacturers. they intentionally make them shitty. i know because i know what they made in the '80s and today's markers are absolute crap. they're great when they're wet, but when they dry out, you want to throw them across the f$cking room.


Yea those markers, they do seem pretty old but i like how they go on the paper. :iceslolan Just a quick question towards you Bonzelite...How many markers do you have? :biggrin: