Amp chosing advice???
Joseph1082
06-02-2004, 09:51 PM
I know you guys are probably tired of being asked this, but ok...
I want to get a good SQ amp that pushes 300W RMS and has a range knob from 20-400Hz... not 20-200Hz like some... it will be powering one twelve, what do you guys suggest???
I want to get a good SQ amp that pushes 300W RMS and has a range knob from 20-400Hz... not 20-200Hz like some... it will be powering one twelve, what do you guys suggest???
Haibane
06-02-2004, 11:22 PM
Umm... what is the impedence... you wont be going past 200 on any sub. I am almost certain of that. I would suggest a nine.2 off the top of my head or a mcintosh if you have that kinda money.
sr20de4evr
06-02-2004, 11:56 PM
and has a range knob from 20-400Hz... not 20-200Hz like some...
wtf for?
Your sub shouldn't be playing above 100hz anyway
wtf for?
Your sub shouldn't be playing above 100hz anyway
aznxthuggie
06-03-2004, 12:38 AM
so the 20-200hz is the lpf right? what would be a good place to put it at? 50hz? 80hz? i jus wuna know, i realize that the higher u put it, the more bass it has
Joseph1082
06-03-2004, 04:00 AM
Ok, well, sr20... I told you about my old system, well, I had a Jensen 300W and it blew out, so I've borrowed a Sony Xplod. The Jensen was set @ 400Hz while the Sony only goes up to 200Hz, and Believe me it sounded way better w/ the Jensen, don't get me wrong, the Sony hits harder (it's about 400W) but sounds even crappier. Since Jensen and Xplod are both utter crap, the only variable in this equation that made the first amp sound better was the higher setting... did I expalin it right
Haibane
06-03-2004, 09:26 AM
dude, get a midbass driver. you will easily blow out your subwoofer trying to run it too high. The sub is not meant to handle that frequency. You need to set it at 120 at the highest and 80 is the norm.
Joseph1082
06-03-2004, 02:42 PM
but then Y did it sound BETTER w/ the Jensen @400 than w/ the Sony now at 200??
Haibane
06-03-2004, 05:20 PM
If you get a dedicated midbass, which is apparently what you were trying to use your jensen for, it will sound better, but your jensen probably died because of its missuse.
PaulD
06-03-2004, 05:36 PM
wow, setting the crossover freq higher will blow the sub .... I guess you learn something everyday :rofl:
as for why one amp seems to hit harder than another, there could be at least a dozen different reasons.
as for why one amp seems to hit harder than another, there could be at least a dozen different reasons.
aznxthuggie
06-03-2004, 09:12 PM
well unless u are happy with your sub playing all your midbass, then get good components, and set the sub's lpf to under 100hz, i duno many people that listen to their subs over 200hz, i mean any higher then its midbass, and your speakers should cover that, your subwoofer is made for LOW FREQUENCIES, if u have it turn that high, u might as well throw away your speakers and use your subwoofer for everything in your car, give it atleast 15khz yea?
Haibane
06-03-2004, 10:35 PM
wow, setting the crossover freq higher will blow the sub .... I guess you learn something everyday :rofl:
as for why one amp seems to hit harder than another, there could be at least a dozen different reasons.
Since they generally distort at the higher frequencies and draw the amp into clipping easier by spreading out the power more, wouldn't that help in blowing the speaker?
as for why one amp seems to hit harder than another, there could be at least a dozen different reasons.
Since they generally distort at the higher frequencies and draw the amp into clipping easier by spreading out the power more, wouldn't that help in blowing the speaker?
Joseph1082
06-04-2004, 01:53 AM
Ok, so can someone give me some ideas on an amp fitting my criteria, it will be powering one kicker 12 and most likely a JL W3 in the future
Haibane
06-04-2004, 08:50 AM
two subs, not going to happen up to 400hz, the amp I recommended earlier will power one sub
CarSuperfreak
06-04-2004, 09:05 AM
i think he means he might upgrade to the w3 sometime in the future
Haibane
06-04-2004, 10:27 AM
www.edesignaudio.com (http://www.edesignaudio.com) if you hurry you can pick up a nine.2 at a good low cost
Joseph1082
06-04-2004, 09:37 PM
does that fit my criteria??
Haibane
06-05-2004, 01:17 AM
You do have internet don't you? I sent you a link for a reason.
PaulD
06-05-2004, 08:49 PM
Haibane ..... distortion does not blow speaker, excess power does. Generally speaking, higher frequencies take less power to play. You would never put a 1000 watt amp on a tweeter. However, if you are playing music with a LOT of bass and midbass, it might add a little extra to the load on the speaker. Usually it just makes for poor midbass.
sr20de4evr
06-05-2004, 11:33 PM
Subs are just not meant to play that high, their response gets peaky and erratic generally, and it can sound kind of funky. Not only that, but you can actually hear your midbass coming from the sub behind you, I'm not sure about you, but that just sounds bad to me. It won't blow the sub, there's no extra distortion (atleast not in the signal, since the sub can't effectively play that high it can sound muddy though, which could be called "distortion" I guess), it just won't sound pretty, especially if you open your trunk and listen to the sub itself up close and personal while you have it crossed that high.
Joseph1082
06-06-2004, 09:43 PM
Well, w/ the Jensen I had the knob all the way to 400 and it sounded fine, of course, it's a Jensen... anyway, sr20, got any suggestions for a 300RMS amp w/ good SQ?
sr20de4evr
06-06-2004, 11:15 PM
What impedence do you need again? I can't remember if it's 2ohm or 4ohm
Joseph1082
06-07-2004, 12:42 AM
I don't know the impedence on the kicker, but eventually I'll have a JL or similar, so impediance @4ohms... I just really need to get rid of this sony amp because it sounds Soooooooo bad!!
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