worth the money?
lucki17
06-02-2004, 04:40 PM
i am goiong to be buying a new car soon and was thinking of the 240sx with of course a sr20det, i only have about 4grand for the whole thing, also i was considering a 2nd gen rx7, would that be better?
Autofreefindersguy
06-02-2004, 04:55 PM
I love both the 240 SX's and the RX-7's, owned both...Although I have no experence with the sr20det? I hear its quite fast...The 240's are just drop dead reliable and can take TONS of miles on stock engines...
I have really enjoyed both the Turbo & na RX-7's too...
Test drive them both & see what fits your tastes...Good luck/skill!
I have really enjoyed both the Turbo & na RX-7's too...
Test drive them both & see what fits your tastes...Good luck/skill!
lucki17
06-02-2004, 05:39 PM
anybody know how much power can be had from 13bt ? i hear sr20det can get 600 or so, 13b comparable in anyway?
Autofreefindersguy
06-02-2004, 05:53 PM
I got around 230-250 HP from my 87 RX-7 T2 with a DP, TID & intake, removing the smog pump & free flowing exhaust...Thats on the stock turbo...Keep in mind my mods didn't cost more then $350...
Thats about as much as you want on a stock T2 fuel system & stock Turbo...
Stock is about 182 HP...
Thats about as much as you want on a stock T2 fuel system & stock Turbo...
Stock is about 182 HP...
BlackBlur
06-02-2004, 07:45 PM
Good luck finding anything for 4k.
johnnyboy5
06-02-2004, 08:03 PM
i dont think it really matters for the rx-7, even if it doesnt have that much power it could still beat other cars with a lot of power. I know and ive seen it, my cousin has an awesome 2nd gen rx-7 that was NA and it kicked but, now he turbocharged it. However, he did have a lot of problems. U would have to know a lot about the rotary engine. If u have only $4k, then buy a cheap 240 with decent body and interior, and buy the engine for about $1200, or the whole clip for about $2300.
johnnyboy5
06-02-2004, 08:04 PM
edit: kicked butt
lucki17
06-03-2004, 01:43 AM
accually there is a rx-7 turbo ll for 1,100 bucks, only problem, needs a turbo, just simply dosent have one, engine supposably great 89,000 miles, i was thinking get a hks turbo and turbo goodies with extra money.
zeroneonzn
06-03-2004, 03:28 AM
depends what u want to do with the car u want a racing car , a daily driver , or just a ok looking fast car????
nissanfanatic
06-03-2004, 04:33 PM
plan on spending the rest of that money if you want HKS stuff.
saikou240
06-03-2004, 05:01 PM
hah, 240sx w/ a preinstalled sr20? for 4k? yeah right. non seller in their right mind is gonna give that away for 4k.
times have changed man, 240sx's are more expensive. i had a basically totalled 240 that i sold for 750. 4k will probably buy you a good condition stock 240sx. beyond that, nothing else. unless you're extremely lucky.
times have changed man, 240sx's are more expensive. i had a basically totalled 240 that i sold for 750. 4k will probably buy you a good condition stock 240sx. beyond that, nothing else. unless you're extremely lucky.
lucki17
06-04-2004, 02:17 AM
accually the 240 im buying has a blown engine, trannies is good however, (i think the guy ran without oil or something), anyway i can get it for $500, i sell the tranny for 500 and have the 4000 for the sr20det. sound like a plan?
Towlie
06-04-2004, 10:32 AM
accually the 240 im buying has a blown engine, trannies is good however, (i think the guy ran without oil or something), anyway i can get it for $500, i sell the tranny for 500 and have the 4000 for the sr20det. sound like a plan?
sorry but the tranny wont go for 500
maybe 350
or 300
Seriously
the body i bought was 500 too
a front clip is 2300-2600
and install depending on the guy
about 1500?
there u go
4 grand right???
so easy so cheap
if ur just looking for a moderately fast car
and a daily driver
get the sr20
if ur just gonna cheese off
and take it to the strip every chance u get
than get the rx7]
my opinion
sorry but the tranny wont go for 500
maybe 350
or 300
Seriously
the body i bought was 500 too
a front clip is 2300-2600
and install depending on the guy
about 1500?
there u go
4 grand right???
so easy so cheap
if ur just looking for a moderately fast car
and a daily driver
get the sr20
if ur just gonna cheese off
and take it to the strip every chance u get
than get the rx7]
my opinion
R.W.240
06-04-2004, 08:12 PM
An HKS single would demolish a T2 Rotary with 89,000 miles. Buying anything rotary powered for cheap is usually pretty risky. in terms of power I have a friend that has an FC with a T62 Turbo (among other things) thats putting 325 to the wheels. but from what ive heard has still been owned by SR20s with Bolt ons (Intake/Exhaust/DP/IC)
2.0L inline making 202HP > 2.6L Rotary making 205HP
Im all about HP/Liter... do whatever you want but i cast my vote for the 240 with SR or CA
2.0L inline making 202HP > 2.6L Rotary making 205HP
Im all about HP/Liter... do whatever you want but i cast my vote for the 240 with SR or CA
logik23
06-04-2004, 09:27 PM
It's not 2.6 liter, it's 1.3.
lucki17
06-05-2004, 02:04 AM
how much does a ca cost? what kinda power does it have and what could it have? from what ive herd its not a good buy
mynismo
06-05-2004, 10:28 AM
Good luck finding anything for 4k.
+1
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+1
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alkemyst
06-06-2004, 03:48 PM
It's not 2.6 liter, it's 1.3.
Well a 1.3L dual rotor rotary technically displaces 2.6L, the 3 rotor about 3.9L (making the power they can make less dramatic).
The seals are the weak point, even people with stock motors have problems sometimes.
My biggest problem is the FC3 is such a beautiful car, but when it's fast it has the absolute worst exhaust note in the history of automobiles.
The Turbo II was a factory 5.5sec 0-60mph car....quite impressive even today. Problem is finding nice ones.
Well a 1.3L dual rotor rotary technically displaces 2.6L, the 3 rotor about 3.9L (making the power they can make less dramatic).
The seals are the weak point, even people with stock motors have problems sometimes.
My biggest problem is the FC3 is such a beautiful car, but when it's fast it has the absolute worst exhaust note in the history of automobiles.
The Turbo II was a factory 5.5sec 0-60mph car....quite impressive even today. Problem is finding nice ones.
R.W.240
06-06-2004, 09:19 PM
2.6L uses two rotor faces each cycle.
I wouldnt say the worst exhaust note just... err... Funky. my friend with the FC has a vent to atmosphere wastegate, whenever it opens up it gets twice as loud... everyone says it sounds like somethings about to break.
I wouldnt say the worst exhaust note just... err... Funky. my friend with the FC has a vent to atmosphere wastegate, whenever it opens up it gets twice as loud... everyone says it sounds like somethings about to break.
logik23
06-06-2004, 09:24 PM
Are your sure it's not venting the blow-off valve?
R.W.240
06-06-2004, 09:30 PM
nah its the wastegate it just vents out of a pipe under the car. its to help ward off boost creep... (altough he still gets creep when he runs high boost). It makes the car loud ass hell but sounds sweet.
lucki17
06-07-2004, 02:46 AM
the rx looks amazing from the outside but dated on the inside and they sound unreliable, tricky to work with and expensive to repair, so i think im going with my original choice of the 240, i think, its just tried and true so yeah, plus this will be a daily driver so i need to be able to start and go, but i will always think about the rx i could have had.
lucki17
06-07-2004, 02:54 AM
sorry if this is a dumb question but, if the wastegate is open then, its not connected to the exhast manifold right? wouldnt that add alot of haet to the engine bay and make the car run a little weird due to the fact it dosent have a turbo manifold?
johnnyboy5
06-07-2004, 01:05 PM
yeah, thats the cool thing about rotary engines, the block is so small and it can put out a lot of hp. Its almost the same size engine as the geo metros.
R.W.240 if ur just about hp and liter, than u got to think "outside the box". rx-7's have 1.3 liter and ive seen one with turbo and everything else stock beat a skyline. There;s many different factors that make a car good, not just hp and liters.
lucki17 if u want a good dependable car u wanna go for the 240sx.l There much easier to maintain than the rx-7's rotary if u dont mess with it too much. But ka24 has is bigger and lasts longer cuz its a good engine. sr20 has turbo so it can wear out faster.
R.W.240 if ur just about hp and liter, than u got to think "outside the box". rx-7's have 1.3 liter and ive seen one with turbo and everything else stock beat a skyline. There;s many different factors that make a car good, not just hp and liters.
lucki17 if u want a good dependable car u wanna go for the 240sx.l There much easier to maintain than the rx-7's rotary if u dont mess with it too much. But ka24 has is bigger and lasts longer cuz its a good engine. sr20 has turbo so it can wear out faster.
R.W.240
06-07-2004, 04:04 PM
http://rx7.com/techarticles_displacement.html
Its a 2.6L. The power the Rotary makes is still impressive but it sure as hell isnt a 1.3L
The wastegate is connected to the exhaust manifold it just doesnt return to the exhaust after the Turbo it vents trough a small pipe somewhere behind the Right Front Wheel not in the engine bay. so when it opens it sounds like a car that just cut the exhaust off after the downpipe.
Its a 2.6L. The power the Rotary makes is still impressive but it sure as hell isnt a 1.3L
The wastegate is connected to the exhaust manifold it just doesnt return to the exhaust after the Turbo it vents trough a small pipe somewhere behind the Right Front Wheel not in the engine bay. so when it opens it sounds like a car that just cut the exhaust off after the downpipe.
johnnyboy5
06-14-2004, 02:36 AM
dude have u seen the freakin engine?, its small ive read official articles and what not from the makers of the rx-7 and rx-8, the history of em, and my cousins work on rotary engines. IT'S A 1.3L. Thats one of the features about the engine, since its small they could have more stuff in the engine bay. Now, I'll ask my cuz, prob ur right, but if this is fo sho, and u can definitely prove me wrong by having the jap mechanic talk to me and say its 2.6L than that would be cool to know
Autofreefindersguy
06-14-2004, 12:27 PM
It is listed as a 1.3 (RX-7) engine...
rps13freak
06-14-2004, 01:11 PM
Ya my friend bought one just alittle while ago that was a freak about the car and kept all the papers about what hes don to it including the manual. I'm pretty sure he said it says its a 1.3 liter.
mrflip69
06-14-2004, 02:38 PM
http://rx7.com/techarticles_displacement.html
Its a 2.6L. The power the Rotary makes is still impressive but it sure as hell isnt a 1.3L
The wastegate is connected to the exhaust manifold it just doesnt return to the exhaust after the Turbo it vents trough a small pipe somewhere behind the Right Front Wheel not in the engine bay. so when it opens it sounds like a car that just cut the exhaust off after the downpipe.
"Now we know, the 13B compare well to a 2.6L 4-cylinder 4-cycle engine"
The last sentence in the article.... it helps to read the shit that you post. And by read, I mean fully understand, not just pick up a word here or there, and take it out of context. Nice link though. :P
Its a 2.6L. The power the Rotary makes is still impressive but it sure as hell isnt a 1.3L
The wastegate is connected to the exhaust manifold it just doesnt return to the exhaust after the Turbo it vents trough a small pipe somewhere behind the Right Front Wheel not in the engine bay. so when it opens it sounds like a car that just cut the exhaust off after the downpipe.
"Now we know, the 13B compare well to a 2.6L 4-cylinder 4-cycle engine"
The last sentence in the article.... it helps to read the shit that you post. And by read, I mean fully understand, not just pick up a word here or there, and take it out of context. Nice link though. :P
HighwayRacer
06-15-2004, 10:01 AM
Damnit Russell, you know I put down more then 325, and I have never been beaten by an SR20, ever.
Fully_Sick
06-15-2004, 11:10 AM
hmmm for 4k any 240 you get your hands on...
I'd honestly advise you to look around for a corolla with a 4-age, or drop in the engine you self. With a few minor, and I really mean minor[eg exhaust, headers, shaved head, big-port swap] you'll be seeing consistent 14s. The corolla is really light as well, if your in the market for a lot of power then theres always the 3sgte,3tgte,4agte,4agze and 20v.
Another option if your willing to get down and dirty is a early model celica/corolla[70-80] with a 1jz swap. My last option I would advise is a mazda rx3, with a 13b or just get a 13b and drop it in a 323[makes for a mad sleeper].
So much you can do,
goodluck
I'd honestly advise you to look around for a corolla with a 4-age, or drop in the engine you self. With a few minor, and I really mean minor[eg exhaust, headers, shaved head, big-port swap] you'll be seeing consistent 14s. The corolla is really light as well, if your in the market for a lot of power then theres always the 3sgte,3tgte,4agte,4agze and 20v.
Another option if your willing to get down and dirty is a early model celica/corolla[70-80] with a 1jz swap. My last option I would advise is a mazda rx3, with a 13b or just get a 13b and drop it in a 323[makes for a mad sleeper].
So much you can do,
goodluck
johnnyboy5
06-15-2004, 04:23 PM
rx3, i dont think if heard of that one. Did mazda make a rx3. Anyways, if ur talkin corolla's, there not really that fast, the new corolla xrs is pretty good though, 170 hp, 6 spd tranny, 16 injch wheels beats civic si, and focus svt, under $15k, i would to get that for a four door but i dont have the money.
logik23
06-15-2004, 04:57 PM
They made RX-1, 2, 3, etc., up to 8.
Edit: Oh and new corollas are nasty.
Edit: Oh and new corollas are nasty.
Fully_Sick
06-16-2004, 12:31 AM
Anyways, if ur talkin corolla's, there not really that fast,
You dont know sh1t..Go look up the 4-age engine and look up modifications that can be done to it. Look up what engines fit in corolla.s
The best corollas are 1991 and below, they will tear a 240 a new asshole. if its non-turbo..They're a fuckin good body for engine transplants, light and stiff.
peace
You dont know sh1t..Go look up the 4-age engine and look up modifications that can be done to it. Look up what engines fit in corolla.s
The best corollas are 1991 and below, they will tear a 240 a new asshole. if its non-turbo..They're a fuckin good body for engine transplants, light and stiff.
peace
HighwayRacer
06-16-2004, 10:30 AM
Why not just put a 20B in a Corrola. It will only cost you about........15k?
Pistolpete
06-17-2004, 01:06 AM
the 240sx stock engine is a hunk of shite, lasts ages cause its just a small truck engine, but i could tune my grandmother to go quicker than it, and shes dead.
CA + SR are the way to go dude. heeps and heeps of tuning potential.
Rx-7's nice cars and the 13b is a top engine with lots of power available, its a rotary so it will need to b reconditioned quite frequently. Also if u havent driven a rotary b4 then go easy cause they are far easier to destry then a nornal V.
try and get ur hands on a convertable if u can they rock and the ladies love it! lol
CA + SR are the way to go dude. heeps and heeps of tuning potential.
Rx-7's nice cars and the 13b is a top engine with lots of power available, its a rotary so it will need to b reconditioned quite frequently. Also if u havent driven a rotary b4 then go easy cause they are far easier to destry then a nornal V.
try and get ur hands on a convertable if u can they rock and the ladies love it! lol
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