what's the bester Rod Stroke ?
Kunundrum
06-02-2004, 04:15 PM
if I put a B17 crank with b16 Rods I get a rod stroke of 1.65, now the B16 has a R/S of 1.74... I thought the closer to 1.70 was the best... is this true ?
Kun
Kun
91civicDXdude
06-02-2004, 04:54 PM
yes. B16's rod ratio is almost perfect. If you want more power from a b16 and still be able to rev it to 10,000 rpm, then what you need to do is sleeve it and bore it to 84mm. that will give you a 1.8L B16. you could also bore it to 86mm and have a 1.9L B16, but you'd have to modifiy the head combustion chamber to match the larger bore.
Kunundrum
06-02-2004, 05:02 PM
according to http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/compcalc/compcalc.php just boring the b16 to 84mm gives it a displacment of 1.7L & 86mm gives 1.8L
The b17 crank has more stroke compaired to the b16 81.4mm vs 77mm stroke
just swaping the crank in a stock B16 bumps up the CR to almost 14:1
The b17 crank has more stroke compaired to the b16 81.4mm vs 77mm stroke
just swaping the crank in a stock B16 bumps up the CR to almost 14:1
91civicDXdude
06-03-2004, 08:11 AM
think about this... the pistons in a b16 are already very close to the valves. imagine making them over 4mm longer... in theory, 14:1 compression, in real life, piston almost 4mm out of the hole and piston slamming the head. If you stroke it, you need shorter rods.
Kunundrum
06-03-2004, 01:33 PM
it's actualy be 5.8 mm closer
b17 crank has 1.8mm shorter rod
b17 crank has 1.8mm shorter rod
YZ125rider21
06-03-2004, 10:13 PM
why he said 4mm fool pay attention and quit fighting...lol...read before you respond with a comment like that
colin161822
06-04-2004, 07:19 PM
you could always stroke/bore a motor to what ever specs you want, if you run longer rods you need a shorter piston. and so on.
a b16 punched out to a 84mm will only give you a 1715cc motor.
the formula is bore x bore x stroke x .0007854 x number of cylinders = cc's. anything past the decimal point is a remainder.
81mm stoke bore
77.4mm stroke
ex: 81x81x77.4x.0007854x4=1595.3716
1595 cc's
or a stock b16
also most b seriers motors have 81mm pistons.
b16a/b, b17, b18a/b/c. stroke is what makes them greater in displacement.
a b16 punched out to a 84mm will only give you a 1715cc motor.
the formula is bore x bore x stroke x .0007854 x number of cylinders = cc's. anything past the decimal point is a remainder.
81mm stoke bore
77.4mm stroke
ex: 81x81x77.4x.0007854x4=1595.3716
1595 cc's
or a stock b16
also most b seriers motors have 81mm pistons.
b16a/b, b17, b18a/b/c. stroke is what makes them greater in displacement.
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