2005
3000ways
05-26-2004, 11:54 AM
Can’t wait for the 2005 car season, there are going to be some great cars coming out, which of these 2005 models do you think will be the best performance car, and which would rather own?
2005 Ford Mustang GT
4.6L 8-Cylinder
300HP@6000RPM 315TQ@4500RPM
5-Speed Manual RWD
3480Lbs
0-60- 5.4 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 13.8 Seconds
2005 Lotus Elise
1.8L 4-cylinder
190HP@7800RPM 133TQ@6800RPM
6-Speed Manual RWD
1980Lbs
0-60- 4.8 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 13.3 Seconds
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR
2.0L Turbocharged 4-Cylinder
285HP@6500RPM 295TQ@3500RPM
6-Speed Manual AWD
3080Lbs
0-60- 4.3 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 12.8 Seconds
2005 Chevrolet Corvette
6.0L 8-Cylinder
400HP@6000RPM 400TQ@4400RPM
6-Speed Manual RWD
3250Lbs
0-60- 4.4 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 12.6 Seconds
2005 Ford Mustang GT
4.6L 8-Cylinder
300HP@6000RPM 315TQ@4500RPM
5-Speed Manual RWD
3480Lbs
0-60- 5.4 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 13.8 Seconds
2005 Lotus Elise
1.8L 4-cylinder
190HP@7800RPM 133TQ@6800RPM
6-Speed Manual RWD
1980Lbs
0-60- 4.8 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 13.3 Seconds
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR
2.0L Turbocharged 4-Cylinder
285HP@6500RPM 295TQ@3500RPM
6-Speed Manual AWD
3080Lbs
0-60- 4.3 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 12.8 Seconds
2005 Chevrolet Corvette
6.0L 8-Cylinder
400HP@6000RPM 400TQ@4400RPM
6-Speed Manual RWD
3250Lbs
0-60- 4.4 Seconds
1/4 Mile- 12.6 Seconds
freakonaleash1187
05-26-2004, 11:58 AM
the best track performance would be a toss-up between the elise, mr, and corvette. even though the elise is the slowest in acceleration, it handles the corners so beautifully. for the car i would like to own, i would choose the elise, i want two doors, so that rules out the mr, and i want to have something different, so that rules out the mustang and corvette.
YogsVR4
05-26-2004, 01:08 PM
The vette :smile:
psychobadboy
05-26-2004, 04:31 PM
Gotta go with the Corvette. The Elise and Evo MR are great cars also. Not too fond of the new Mustang tho...
youngvr4
05-26-2004, 05:38 PM
corvette
freakonaleash1187
05-26-2004, 06:26 PM
man, you guys have given a lot of effort into this thread. j/p.
DinanM3_S2
05-26-2004, 09:18 PM
The Elise is an incredible car that I've wanted to some to the US for a very long time.
The new Vette should be great, cant wait for a Z06
New EVO is pretty good, but not a whole lot different from the regular Evo VIII
I kinda like the new mustang. Supposedly it has alot of potential and should be an awesome drag machine
The new Vette should be great, cant wait for a Z06
New EVO is pretty good, but not a whole lot different from the regular Evo VIII
I kinda like the new mustang. Supposedly it has alot of potential and should be an awesome drag machine
Jimster
05-27-2004, 12:58 AM
The Elise will win on a track, I'm mighty confident of that.
The Corvette is a scorcher as well, hopefully fuel prices will come down and they'll release it in Europe, might consider putting my name down for one in 3 or 4 years.
The Evolution MR is meh, I'm sorry, but I'm so used to seeing hundreds of Evo's all driven by shitheads ('Cept the really hardcore lot and WRC stars) - but I'm sure it'll be a good car.
Mustang? Pah. Wait for the Cobra.
The Corvette is a scorcher as well, hopefully fuel prices will come down and they'll release it in Europe, might consider putting my name down for one in 3 or 4 years.
The Evolution MR is meh, I'm sorry, but I'm so used to seeing hundreds of Evo's all driven by shitheads ('Cept the really hardcore lot and WRC stars) - but I'm sure it'll be a good car.
Mustang? Pah. Wait for the Cobra.
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 02:04 PM
05 mustang. then corvette then elise then mr. not to happy with rice
flylwsi
05-27-2004, 02:06 PM
not too happy with rice?
what's ricey there?
wait for the exige.
it's sicker than anything there...
or turbo an elise... ;)
that's my choice
what's ricey there?
wait for the exige.
it's sicker than anything there...
or turbo an elise... ;)
that's my choice
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 02:07 PM
not the lotus the mr
flylwsi
05-27-2004, 02:50 PM
what's ricey about a british sports car?
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 02:53 PM
i didnt say the lotus elise i said the mitsubishi mr
flylwsi
05-27-2004, 02:55 PM
my bad...
i'm not paying attention.
what's ricey about a turbo 4 that can, and does, run with rwd v8 cars, and outhandles them? (not the vette specifically, but)
i'm not paying attention.
what's ricey about a turbo 4 that can, and does, run with rwd v8 cars, and outhandles them? (not the vette specifically, but)
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 02:58 PM
i just dont like the looks. its nothing against imports but it kind of looks like rice to me but thats just my opinion.
flylwsi
05-27-2004, 03:49 PM
considering that the MR doesn't have the wing, and the front bumper cover is UBER functional...
it's no worse than the look of the saleen in your sig... ;)
it's no worse than the look of the saleen in your sig... ;)
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 04:02 PM
hey, i said it was my opinion. dont get offended. i seen the other threads where you owned the crap outta some people so dont start cus im not following.
flylwsi
05-27-2004, 04:25 PM
i'm not trying to own you here, just trying to find out what's ricey about it...
you don't like the evo b/c it's ricey, but it's functional.
everything on the car...
so i'm just asking why/what makes you think that...
(to me, at least, ricey is a non-functional part that serves no purpose, which the evo mr doesn't have)
offended? not likely...
you don't like the evo b/c it's ricey, but it's functional.
everything on the car...
so i'm just asking why/what makes you think that...
(to me, at least, ricey is a non-functional part that serves no purpose, which the evo mr doesn't have)
offended? not likely...
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 05:25 PM
like i said on my last post. i just dont like the look of it. it gives me a rice vibe. but i guess its more like a race car vibe. correct me if im wrong but i heard it doesnt come with a radio or an ac? yes that car can hang with v8s but the 03 cobra which is force inducted too can hang w/ v10s and some v12s. and i wouldnt consider a saleen body kit rice unless it's on a v6 mustang. the saleen S281-E is a brute it can dip into the 11s. is that your prelude? the yellow one? if it is you could have a sleeper on your hands. sorry for taking long. i was washing the truck.
flylwsi
05-27-2004, 05:34 PM
i didn't say the saleen kit was ricey, that's my point... ;)
yeah, it was a sleeper...
the corvette tails are going to throw people off, but it's by no means going to be outlandish...
unless you consider yellow paint that burns your retinas outlandish... ;)
i agree on the race car vibe...
for me, rice is the race car vibe on a car that doesn't use it, or use it correctly (big alum. wings come to mind, especially when not adjusted for downforce)
yeah, it was a sleeper...
the corvette tails are going to throw people off, but it's by no means going to be outlandish...
unless you consider yellow paint that burns your retinas outlandish... ;)
i agree on the race car vibe...
for me, rice is the race car vibe on a car that doesn't use it, or use it correctly (big alum. wings come to mind, especially when not adjusted for downforce)
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 05:41 PM
good way to explain rice. i wish these kids would understand this. im still young but i wont be doing that to any kind of car.
sorry about that saleen thing. i misread your post.
sorry about that saleen thing. i misread your post.
flylwsi
05-27-2004, 05:56 PM
i figured it'd get misunderstood...
i can't really consider anything that comes factory on a car to be ricey...
IE.
integra type R basket handle wing: functional in autocross, and highway speeds
wrx/evo wings/bumpers/skirts/wheels/etc. allllll functional pieces.
hell, the original wing on my car (small as it was) made a difference in downforce at higher speeds.
i took the wing off to smooth the car, and the rear gets squirelly at higher speeds (110+ going around a tight curve on the freeway)...
it's one thing to have functional parts, it's another to use them PROPERLY, which is where rice comes in.
big ace alum. wings are functional, when used correctly.
same as the parts on the evos, and even the saleen...
a stock v6 mustang with a saleen kit and stock drivetrain is domesticated rice to me...
ya know?
i can't really consider anything that comes factory on a car to be ricey...
IE.
integra type R basket handle wing: functional in autocross, and highway speeds
wrx/evo wings/bumpers/skirts/wheels/etc. allllll functional pieces.
hell, the original wing on my car (small as it was) made a difference in downforce at higher speeds.
i took the wing off to smooth the car, and the rear gets squirelly at higher speeds (110+ going around a tight curve on the freeway)...
it's one thing to have functional parts, it's another to use them PROPERLY, which is where rice comes in.
big ace alum. wings are functional, when used correctly.
same as the parts on the evos, and even the saleen...
a stock v6 mustang with a saleen kit and stock drivetrain is domesticated rice to me...
ya know?
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 06:12 PM
yeah i dont realy know all about everything that comes from the factory thing. although you can alter some non funtional things to do something. it seems that car companies are getting into the rice thing though. going off topic, have you seen the focus with the v8 in it. its a good sleeper.
3000ways
05-27-2004, 08:43 PM
like i said on my last post. i just dont like the look of it. it gives me a rice vibe. but i guess its more like a race car vibe. correct me if im wrong but i heard it doesnt come with a radio or an ac? yes that car can hang with v8s but the 03 cobra which is force inducted too can hang w/ v10s and some v12s. and i wouldnt consider a saleen body kit rice unless it's on a v6 mustang. the saleen S281-E is a brute it can dip into the 11s. is that your prelude? the yellow one? if it is you could have a sleeper on your hands. sorry for taking long. i was washing the truck.
Hate to start crap with you, but when your talking about the EVO, then expect to hear from me. I'm not talking styling, cuz beauty is the eye of the beholder and to me the EVO MR looks awesome. I'm talking performance, I know you like Mustangs and all that but don't be blinded by biasm. The Cobra you mentioned does the 1/4 mile in the 12s and 0-60 in 4s, um so does the EVO MR, so what the heck are you talking about? Let me ask you this, does the 2003 Cobra have skidpad numbers over .95g, I'll answer for you, NO. Does the 2003 Cobra slalom over 70MPH+, I'll answer for you again, NO. Can the 2003 Cobra brake from 60-0 in under 110FT, I'll answer for you, NO. Does the 2003 Cobra or Saleen have anything to do with this comparison, once again I'll answer for you, NO.
Hate to start crap with you, but when your talking about the EVO, then expect to hear from me. I'm not talking styling, cuz beauty is the eye of the beholder and to me the EVO MR looks awesome. I'm talking performance, I know you like Mustangs and all that but don't be blinded by biasm. The Cobra you mentioned does the 1/4 mile in the 12s and 0-60 in 4s, um so does the EVO MR, so what the heck are you talking about? Let me ask you this, does the 2003 Cobra have skidpad numbers over .95g, I'll answer for you, NO. Does the 2003 Cobra slalom over 70MPH+, I'll answer for you again, NO. Can the 2003 Cobra brake from 60-0 in under 110FT, I'll answer for you, NO. Does the 2003 Cobra or Saleen have anything to do with this comparison, once again I'll answer for you, NO.
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 10:56 PM
now who the fuck got you into this. i know you made this but everyone has their opinion and if you notice i called it more like a race car and the 03 cobra is not a racecar. if you want a racecar get the 00 cobra r and then we'll talk. runs 12s, skidpad 1g, and a top speed (aerodinamicaly limited)170.
3000ways
05-27-2004, 11:32 PM
now who the fuck got you into this. i know you made this but everyone has their opinion and if you notice i called it more like a race car and the 03 cobra is not a racecar. if you want a racecar get the 00 cobra r and then we'll talk. runs 12s, skidpad 1g, and a top speed (aerodinamicaly limited)170.
Im sorry didn't know I wasn't allowed to respond to what you type, I explained why I responded already so enough about that. Let's not forget that the Cobra R cost well over $10,000 on the MR, and since you brought the limited edition Cobra R out, I'll pull out the limited edition EVO FQ330. Also like I said the Cobra has nothing do with this topic.
Im sorry didn't know I wasn't allowed to respond to what you type, I explained why I responded already so enough about that. Let's not forget that the Cobra R cost well over $10,000 on the MR, and since you brought the limited edition Cobra R out, I'll pull out the limited edition EVO FQ330. Also like I said the Cobra has nothing do with this topic.
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 11:34 PM
sorry to act like an a$$hole but what you crying about then?
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 11:37 PM
naw just kidding. i respect your oppinion. nice RACE car.
3000ways
05-27-2004, 11:45 PM
naw just kidding. i respect your oppinion. nice RACE car.
I apologize also, I've been acting like an a$$hole too lately. Just trying to defend the car I love. BTW that Saleen you have pictured looks absolutely sweet.
I apologize also, I've been acting like an a$$hole too lately. Just trying to defend the car I love. BTW that Saleen you have pictured looks absolutely sweet.
stang_guy
05-27-2004, 11:48 PM
thank you. you notice i dont realy hate it. i like it better than the regular lancer. they have my respect if they can hit 12s stock.
RedLightning
05-28-2004, 12:10 PM
well sorry to break into your argument, but id pick the mustang.
EmeraldPrelude
05-28-2004, 05:46 PM
Of course a Ford fan would pick the mustang. ;)
This is a tough one if you ask me, the Ford is the only one I would NOT pick in this situation. While I do like the way it looks compared to the previous Stang's its just not enough to be appealing to me.
The Evolution has to have an even greater bang for the buck than a Z06 Corvette, a really impressive handling, and performing car! However, as nice as it looks, its not nearly as beautiful as a Corvette or an Elise, but thats MY opinion.
The Elise.. is an outstanding car. Ive driven two of them, and the handling of that car on the autobahn at high speeds is impressive. Owning an Esprit previously, I have a hard time going against Lotus... But I really think Chevrolet raised the standard again with the C6.
The C6 alone is an impressive car. Yet, Im looking forward to the convertible which is being released the same year. Im already planning on buying one the second they begin to be sold. Beauty, performance.. I can't get enough of the Corvette. This is coming from someone who is not really a fan of Chevrolet. I prefer European cars.
This is a tough one if you ask me, the Ford is the only one I would NOT pick in this situation. While I do like the way it looks compared to the previous Stang's its just not enough to be appealing to me.
The Evolution has to have an even greater bang for the buck than a Z06 Corvette, a really impressive handling, and performing car! However, as nice as it looks, its not nearly as beautiful as a Corvette or an Elise, but thats MY opinion.
The Elise.. is an outstanding car. Ive driven two of them, and the handling of that car on the autobahn at high speeds is impressive. Owning an Esprit previously, I have a hard time going against Lotus... But I really think Chevrolet raised the standard again with the C6.
The C6 alone is an impressive car. Yet, Im looking forward to the convertible which is being released the same year. Im already planning on buying one the second they begin to be sold. Beauty, performance.. I can't get enough of the Corvette. This is coming from someone who is not really a fan of Chevrolet. I prefer European cars.
stangvette1
06-18-2004, 10:11 PM
I'll take the new 2006 mustang cobra or the new 2006 corvette Z06 over the lotus or the evo.
kman10587
06-19-2004, 12:38 AM
If God were to come down from heaven and hand me the keys to any one of these cars, I'd say, "Gimme the Evo, bitch!"
But if I were to buy one of these myself, I'd go with the Mustang GT, since the bang-for-buck in a straight line is incredible.
But if I were to buy one of these myself, I'd go with the Mustang GT, since the bang-for-buck in a straight line is incredible.
Neutrino
06-19-2004, 02:21 AM
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