Crank walk!?
n8s95gsx
05-23-2004, 06:56 PM
Well, i recently went to a mechanic when i noticed that when i push my clutch in there is a ticking noise in the front right corner of the engine, and he gave me the bad news that i have a case of crank walk. their has been no problems with anything at all besides the clicking noise so i figured the bill to fix this would hopefully be under $1,000. does any have any idea about the cost to fix crank walk if caught at an early stage??? and is it best to have a Mitsubishi dealier fix it? PLEASE HELP
97GSTspyder
05-23-2004, 08:04 PM
your repair bill won't be under $1,000.....i had crankwalk and my bill was over $7500 for everything...that included the short block, trannie (you probably won't need a trannie), clutch, some other stuff and labor...crankwalk is no fun :( you sure that you just don't have a bad case of lifter tick? because from my knowledge, when you hear the CW tick (the trigger plate scraping against the sensor) that usually indicates that your engine is on its last leg and won't last much longer. a better way to check for CW is checking the end play.... here are instructions on how to do this
http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/crankwalk/
hopefully you don't have CW
http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/crankwalk/
hopefully you don't have CW
n8s95gsx
05-23-2004, 09:06 PM
but i thought u can hear lifter tick all the time. u can only only hear the noise when the clutch is in and gets louder as u push it in farther.
guitarXgeek
05-23-2004, 09:49 PM
I was reading one of the CW links on that one page that 97GSTspyder posted, and it seems that they think loss in oil pressure at the oil squirters (as well as a crappy fuel pump) could be a main cause of extensive wear on the thrust bearing. I was wondering if there is any way to monitor the pressure at the squirters? I've never looked into oil pressure gauges, so I don't know where they read from. Any information about this would be great, thanks.
1stGenRocks
05-23-2004, 10:13 PM
an oil pressure gauge can be made to read from just about anywhere. but the oil squirters are supplied be internal passages in the block and putting a oil pressure sender ther would just block them up more
guitarXgeek
05-23-2004, 10:58 PM
So where would the BEST place to put the oil pressure sensor be? Also, would the oil pressure gauge's purpose even be worth the money? (I'm on a relatively tight budget)
EclipseRST
05-24-2004, 12:06 AM
hey n8s95gsx check your private messages... just wondering if you need some help, if ya do let me know! if you need to know if i do good work or not there are 2 people on here that i have fixed their cars for them!
kjewer1
05-24-2004, 02:32 AM
So where would the BEST place to put the oil pressure sensor be? Also, would the oil pressure gauge's purpose even be worth the money? (I'm on a relatively tight budget)
If my opinion counts for anything, boost and oil pressure are the two most important guages you can buy. They are the only 2 I have in fact. I sold all the others. You put it in te stock location on the filter housing, takes pressure right after the pump.
If my opinion counts for anything, boost and oil pressure are the two most important guages you can buy. They are the only 2 I have in fact. I sold all the others. You put it in te stock location on the filter housing, takes pressure right after the pump.
guitarXgeek
05-24-2004, 02:54 AM
Well I'd say someone who's running (or has run) 1/4 mile times at 11.84 has an opinion that counts very much =) Thanks for the info, it's just what I was looking for.
guitarXgeek
05-24-2004, 02:56 AM
Oh yea, and what's the difference between Mechanical and Electrical gauges?
kjewer1
05-24-2004, 03:14 AM
The biggest difference is price. A cheap autozone mechanical gauge is like 14 bucks, and autometer or similar electric guage is usually 45-50 bucks. The advantage to mecahincal is you dont have an oil line running into the passenger compartment of the car. You also dont have to worry about that line failing and pumping all your oil out onto the highway. If you ask me, the convience and lower risk make it worth the cost. You just have to do up a little more wiring, rather than run the plastic line into the car. If you dont have cams, solid motor mounts, and 8250 rpm redline like I do, you wont have to worryabout remote mounting the sender or anything. Just remove the stocker and screw it in there. The idiot light will remain functional. When you get the guage in I can tell you exactly where to screw in the sender.
RattlesnakeGST
05-24-2004, 06:01 PM
Id definatelly get a second and third opinion unless you really trust the guy. To easy for someone to label it crankwalk to make tons of cash off you..
EclipseRST
05-24-2004, 09:59 PM
yea i could look at it if you want me too! i'll give ya a straight honest answer!
amdsoldier
05-24-2004, 10:16 PM
yea i could look at it if you want me too! i'll give ya a straight honest answer!
hey just sent ya a pm
hey just sent ya a pm
n8s95gsx
05-24-2004, 11:22 PM
Yeah.. i think im going to take it to a couple more mechanics just to be sure. because today 2 mechanics told me that they are 90% sure it is a throwout barring. which wouldnt be so bad
EclipseRST
05-25-2004, 12:27 AM
naa thats not too bad... but if its your thrust bearing, thats crankwalk!
EclipseRST
05-25-2004, 12:29 AM
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check your PM's... i replied!
check your PM's... i replied!
97GSTspyder
05-25-2004, 04:19 PM
yeah dude...just hope it's only your t/o bearing. those are pretty cheap. i believe they're like $30 or so. yeah just hope it's not your thrust bearing...because if it is, they would probably try replacing only the bearing (which is still a lot of work and money) and if it does have CW then replacing just the thrust bearing won't do much good. the whole short block will need replaced...i've already been through that all. my mech was only going to replace the bearing till he got it all ripped apart and noticed that there was a lot more damage. having the whole SB replaced isn't cheap at all...here i'll get you my prices that i had to pay... (this is exactly how is look on my receipts...keep in mind that i also had a new clutch and trannie installed too)
Labor---57.50/hour
Receipt 1
DISC, CLUTC 1 90.48
COVER ASSY 1 106.65
BEARING, CL 1 25.12
FLYWHEEL 1 317.35
CLIP, CLUTC 1 1.22
MANUAL TRA 1 1832.43
ADHESIVE 1 4.50
TOTAL--- 3148.62 (w/ tax & labor)
Receipt 2
CYLINDER A 1 58.95
CYLINDER 1 124.00
FLUID 1 6.75
COVER, FR F 1 16.43
TOTAL--- 402.35 (w/ tax & labor)
Receipt 3
GASKET KIT 1 229.77
ENGINE A 1 2035.71
CASE ASS 1 198.43
BELT, VALVE 1 75.97
OIL FILTER 1 5.75
BLADE, CRAN 1 44.90
SENSOR, ENG 1 64.80
BELT 1 19.38
BELT 1 15.93
BELT 1 18.16
TOTAL--- 3654.23 (w/ tax & labor)
Receipt 4
BELT 1 8.28
BELT 1 11.80
BELT 1 12.60
BELT, BALAN 1 29.02
PULLEY, CRA 1 123.67
BELT 1 86.35
SPROCKET 1 45.75
COVER 1 63.35
NUT 1 1.75
DYES 1 6.70
TOTAL--- 562.84 (w/ tax & labor)
THEN after i got my car back, my NEW oil pump blew...which ruined my turbo! it looked like someone threw a damn smoke bomb under my car...luckily they called Mitsu and they replaced my turbo at no charge.
no fun huh? :(
Labor---57.50/hour
Receipt 1
DISC, CLUTC 1 90.48
COVER ASSY 1 106.65
BEARING, CL 1 25.12
FLYWHEEL 1 317.35
CLIP, CLUTC 1 1.22
MANUAL TRA 1 1832.43
ADHESIVE 1 4.50
TOTAL--- 3148.62 (w/ tax & labor)
Receipt 2
CYLINDER A 1 58.95
CYLINDER 1 124.00
FLUID 1 6.75
COVER, FR F 1 16.43
TOTAL--- 402.35 (w/ tax & labor)
Receipt 3
GASKET KIT 1 229.77
ENGINE A 1 2035.71
CASE ASS 1 198.43
BELT, VALVE 1 75.97
OIL FILTER 1 5.75
BLADE, CRAN 1 44.90
SENSOR, ENG 1 64.80
BELT 1 19.38
BELT 1 15.93
BELT 1 18.16
TOTAL--- 3654.23 (w/ tax & labor)
Receipt 4
BELT 1 8.28
BELT 1 11.80
BELT 1 12.60
BELT, BALAN 1 29.02
PULLEY, CRA 1 123.67
BELT 1 86.35
SPROCKET 1 45.75
COVER 1 63.35
NUT 1 1.75
DYES 1 6.70
TOTAL--- 562.84 (w/ tax & labor)
THEN after i got my car back, my NEW oil pump blew...which ruined my turbo! it looked like someone threw a damn smoke bomb under my car...luckily they called Mitsu and they replaced my turbo at no charge.
no fun huh? :(
ashah000
05-25-2004, 05:23 PM
^^^ Man you should have bought a new car. That sucks.
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