One F***ing inch
SHO411
05-23-2004, 03:39 PM
I was test fitting my 6 block and I was kinda confident cuz the block has a raised portion on the front of the oilpan to clear a K-mbr, so I was sure it will fit, I just wanted to see how it looked and how far back I can get it to sit. I put it on my crane put it in the engine bay and guess what, the front of the pan sits well but the engine will not go in cuz the BLOOdy steering rack sits too far behind the K-mbr :banghead: . I had said if push come to shove I will take blights advice and mount it higher but this will not work cuz the bellhousing will not fit. I really fucking hate it when my progress is stoped by such a small freaking margin, an inch, DAMN IT would rather have it refuse cuz of 4 inches not one.
Well I can't seem to figure out a way, any ideas???? This is all that I have come up with so far,
A) put spacers on the 4 bolts that hold the K-mbr and make it sit an about a 1/4 of an inch lower, might help, but I doubt. If I could get someone to put longer studs, then I could sit the engine about an inch and a half lower and this will also boost handling except those studs don't seem easy to replace. I was actually trying to figure out how they got in there in the first place, at least the four on my T-ram were just huge 4 inch bolts and about as thick as a nickle circle.
B) A custom oilpan will cost me out the ass and don't wat to use that option cuz there are risks, and the design of an oilpan should never be altered unless with a reputable company like edlebrock.
Unfortunately I cant move the steering rack to the front cuz of so many reasons that will stop me, also I would like to move it lower around an inch to give me clearance but the mounting bolts are welded to the K and the steering column might nor reach. DARN IT. My brain is so fried right now. Also if I don't lower the K, then anytime I need to change the clutch, I will have to drop both engine and tranny about 2 inches to get clearance to the bell bolts cuz the bell is big and the tranny tunnel is so small. Ain't that some shit. Maybe I should have gone with an SR, thats what I get for trying to be diff. :banghead: .
Well I can't seem to figure out a way, any ideas???? This is all that I have come up with so far,
A) put spacers on the 4 bolts that hold the K-mbr and make it sit an about a 1/4 of an inch lower, might help, but I doubt. If I could get someone to put longer studs, then I could sit the engine about an inch and a half lower and this will also boost handling except those studs don't seem easy to replace. I was actually trying to figure out how they got in there in the first place, at least the four on my T-ram were just huge 4 inch bolts and about as thick as a nickle circle.
B) A custom oilpan will cost me out the ass and don't wat to use that option cuz there are risks, and the design of an oilpan should never be altered unless with a reputable company like edlebrock.
Unfortunately I cant move the steering rack to the front cuz of so many reasons that will stop me, also I would like to move it lower around an inch to give me clearance but the mounting bolts are welded to the K and the steering column might nor reach. DARN IT. My brain is so fried right now. Also if I don't lower the K, then anytime I need to change the clutch, I will have to drop both engine and tranny about 2 inches to get clearance to the bell bolts cuz the bell is big and the tranny tunnel is so small. Ain't that some shit. Maybe I should have gone with an SR, thats what I get for trying to be diff. :banghead: .
ironzpy
05-23-2004, 04:17 PM
wow. why dont you just kill your self and give me your car. Cause if i get the car for free then i could afford the oil pan.
J SPEC SilEighty
05-23-2004, 04:30 PM
wow. why dont you just kill your self and give me your car. Cause if i get the car for free then i could afford the oil pan.
who the fuck are you?
who the fuck are you?
AWDSR20
05-23-2004, 04:50 PM
j spec that white girl clip is funny...... i had to copy it in my comp. hope u don't mined!
BTW (how is as slivias a sil 80, it a 95 right?)
anyways clean car yo
SHO411 take it easy, take a break then work on it again. keep up up dated. good luck!
BTW (how is as slivias a sil 80, it a 95 right?)
anyways clean car yo
SHO411 take it easy, take a break then work on it again. keep up up dated. good luck!
J SPEC SilEighty
05-23-2004, 05:07 PM
j spec that white girl clip is funny...... i had to copy it in my comp. hope u don't mined!
BTW (how is as slivias a sil 80, it a 95 right?)
anyways clean car yo
Nah I don't mind. I got it from some other forum. It's all over the internet now so I don't even know where it started.
About my username since everybody keeps asking, I originally came to AF with the username HondaImports back in Dec 2001. I was a member on www.purehonda.com since about March of that year. Long story short, the owner of purehonda.com no longer wanted to keep it open or couldn't afford the hosting so Igor over here at AF took all of us in. If you look at the join dates, you will see that there are a whole lot of people who joined in Dec '01 because of all of us coming over from purehonda. I trolled around the honda forums over here for awhile. I soon later changed my name to "J SPEC SilEighty" because I was looking for an S13 and wanted to make it into, well, a sileighty. After searching around here for about 4-5 months without any luck on finding a good s13 for sale, I went ahead and bought an S14, the one I have now. I just never changed my username from J SPEC SilEighty to match the car I have now. I use that name on these forums and 240sxforums. On the local car forums though, I go by the name S14KAT, which is also my screen name for AOL Instant Messanger. So yeah, I just got used to the name J SPEC SilEighty and stayed with that... it has nothing to do with my current car.
BTW (how is as slivias a sil 80, it a 95 right?)
anyways clean car yo
Nah I don't mind. I got it from some other forum. It's all over the internet now so I don't even know where it started.
About my username since everybody keeps asking, I originally came to AF with the username HondaImports back in Dec 2001. I was a member on www.purehonda.com since about March of that year. Long story short, the owner of purehonda.com no longer wanted to keep it open or couldn't afford the hosting so Igor over here at AF took all of us in. If you look at the join dates, you will see that there are a whole lot of people who joined in Dec '01 because of all of us coming over from purehonda. I trolled around the honda forums over here for awhile. I soon later changed my name to "J SPEC SilEighty" because I was looking for an S13 and wanted to make it into, well, a sileighty. After searching around here for about 4-5 months without any luck on finding a good s13 for sale, I went ahead and bought an S14, the one I have now. I just never changed my username from J SPEC SilEighty to match the car I have now. I use that name on these forums and 240sxforums. On the local car forums though, I go by the name S14KAT, which is also my screen name for AOL Instant Messanger. So yeah, I just got used to the name J SPEC SilEighty and stayed with that... it has nothing to do with my current car.
SHO411
05-23-2004, 05:58 PM
Wish I could, all I've managed to do in the last six months is strip the interior and do a 5lug on the rear, I have three months to fininsh this fucking project so as to attend Nopi and I ain't done shit. I keep walking away and coming back and sitting in the engine bay trying to figure out a way but not a damn clue, Fuck! Nopi is coming soon and if I can't enter I will trade the damn car.
ghostchild316
05-23-2004, 06:41 PM
How about building the car for yourself and not for some ricerfest
oh and 2 words for your tranny tunnel problem-
HAMMER TIME!!!
oh and 2 words for your tranny tunnel problem-
HAMMER TIME!!!
Grenyaer
05-23-2004, 09:27 PM
He is building it for the show so he can get a sponsor and get money and free shit!
SHO411
05-23-2004, 09:44 PM
Already considered that ghost but the only problem is for me to do that, I will need to cut a huge section out, and re-weld it, going to be costly and hard, I will need a firewall like a firebird which is crved. Hamering can't solve this problem I already considered that angle.
And it is not the tranny tunel thats the problem it is the steering rack, thats the obstacle.
Almost right G, except, I work on cars here in the south side and wan't to move to the performance side, and we all know just saying you can doesn't mean you can. Any goon can change brakes and replace an engine but swapping motors is a diff story. Hope to open a shop one day, .....................................Hope :^(
And it is not the tranny tunel thats the problem it is the steering rack, thats the obstacle.
Almost right G, except, I work on cars here in the south side and wan't to move to the performance side, and we all know just saying you can doesn't mean you can. Any goon can change brakes and replace an engine but swapping motors is a diff story. Hope to open a shop one day, .....................................Hope :^(
zeroneonzn
05-23-2004, 09:56 PM
cut out some of the frame to make it fit, mod it man its not that hard just watch what u cut to make it fit
Grenyaer
05-23-2004, 10:08 PM
Convert to lhd! :thumbsup:
SHO411
05-23-2004, 11:17 PM
WHAT???????? LHD is not going to help me, not to get smart but the position of the steering rack NOT steering column is the problem, swithching to LHD will still leave the rack at the same place, and I'll still be in the same position I am in now except more broke.
It is the Steering rack everybody, thats what is in my way, if I could move it an inch to the front I will be set, but I can't figure out a way. All I can come up are going to be major mods, and if you haven't being listening to me (no one does), I am doing this at home and I am currently jobless so no 2000 dollar ideas please. hell I just came back from the dollar theater cuz I couldn't afford 6 bucks for a ticket at the regular theater, and I paid in quaters too.
It is the Steering rack everybody, thats what is in my way, if I could move it an inch to the front I will be set, but I can't figure out a way. All I can come up are going to be major mods, and if you haven't being listening to me (no one does), I am doing this at home and I am currently jobless so no 2000 dollar ideas please. hell I just came back from the dollar theater cuz I couldn't afford 6 bucks for a ticket at the regular theater, and I paid in quaters too.
Grenyaer
05-24-2004, 10:35 AM
lol damn man, sorry just throwin' ideas at you. And I apologize cause I didn't read it well enough.
ironzpy
05-24-2004, 03:30 PM
I am not sure if you figured out your problem yet but. I wanted to know if you used a McKinney or unStable kit to mount your engine? Or are you just using the cross member from your front clip? Do you have a a front clip? I am trying my best to help but with out looking I am having a hard time figuring out how anything can help you with out spending too much.
AWDSR20
05-24-2004, 03:43 PM
hummm.... tnxs J-spec!
BTW SOH411 ask one of ur friends with a S13 to help u out. maybe if u are looking at a unning S13 engine bay, u will have an idea how to fix urs.
BTW SOH411 ask one of ur friends with a S13 to help u out. maybe if u are looking at a unning S13 engine bay, u will have an idea how to fix urs.
mrflip69
05-24-2004, 06:10 PM
Isn't his car LHD already anyway???
SHO411
05-24-2004, 09:40 PM
I guess he meant RHD,
You guys are hilarious, it is a ford taurus SHO engine (the one in my sig), doubt looking at any 240 will help, not even a VG30 240 will help, but, a friend of mine who we went to sch together told me I was looking at it wrong, the 240 engine comes out easier from the bottom and not the top, so it will be alot easier if I were to take down the K and put the car over the engine not vice versa, like I did on my firebird. This will put the bell already in the tunnel and not twist and turn it in like you do with a virgin.
IronZ not even mckinney has a kit for a ford engine so they are out of the question. Anyway thanks for all your help, I will start that tomorrow and I'll post back how it fits.
I did just come back from court today and the motherfuckers put me on 12mths probation so this is going to take a toll on me, epecially with me not working and all, then the fines they set, fuck clayton county, they fucked me with no vaseline, so put Nompi to the side for this year.
Oh by the way, performance cost, cheap is out of the question so I need to get that out of my head, otherwise I should have kept the T-Ram. If all else fails, I can just get a custom oilpan for $450-$600.
You guys are hilarious, it is a ford taurus SHO engine (the one in my sig), doubt looking at any 240 will help, not even a VG30 240 will help, but, a friend of mine who we went to sch together told me I was looking at it wrong, the 240 engine comes out easier from the bottom and not the top, so it will be alot easier if I were to take down the K and put the car over the engine not vice versa, like I did on my firebird. This will put the bell already in the tunnel and not twist and turn it in like you do with a virgin.
IronZ not even mckinney has a kit for a ford engine so they are out of the question. Anyway thanks for all your help, I will start that tomorrow and I'll post back how it fits.
I did just come back from court today and the motherfuckers put me on 12mths probation so this is going to take a toll on me, epecially with me not working and all, then the fines they set, fuck clayton county, they fucked me with no vaseline, so put Nompi to the side for this year.
Oh by the way, performance cost, cheap is out of the question so I need to get that out of my head, otherwise I should have kept the T-Ram. If all else fails, I can just get a custom oilpan for $450-$600.
ironzpy
05-24-2004, 09:52 PM
I didnt know you were using the SHO motor. If I knew that i wouldnt have asked you about a kit. I thought you were using a rb26. If all else fails just go into massive debt and get the parts you need.
SHO411
05-24-2004, 10:35 PM
Dude i'm already in massive dept, there is no way I could afford an RB26, and I need to take this J30 to the auction so as to get some cash.
I hate front wheel cars, but love my SHO motor, that and that I have two of them soooooooooo............ thats how it all started.
I hate front wheel cars, but love my SHO motor, that and that I have two of them soooooooooo............ thats how it all started.
ironzpy
05-24-2004, 10:43 PM
I always wanted to use an sho motor in something but ford cant make a good looking car (old mustangs excluded). It is just a fact of life. Look at their PAG. They all look like they were designed by failed architects.
Thats why i own nissans. Keep me posted on your progress cause i may copy you cause i am unorginal.
Thats why i own nissans. Keep me posted on your progress cause i may copy you cause i am unorginal.
SHO411
05-25-2004, 09:44 AM
Hey, I do like the 98-2003 mustangs, and the new F150.
ironzpy
05-25-2004, 08:41 PM
i will give you that the new f150 is good but how could it not be they based it on a tonka truck.
but stangs all have sucked since like the mach 1. Although the new style based on the fastback is nice.
but engines is what matter so:
Give me a rb over a sho anyday of the week.
but stangs all have sucked since like the mach 1. Although the new style based on the fastback is nice.
but engines is what matter so:
Give me a rb over a sho anyday of the week.
vsiev
05-25-2004, 09:24 PM
slap some pics up and give us a visual....maybe we can think of something with a pic. Maybe weld a new mount for the steering rack an inch back or something. Or cut the existing mounts and weld a spacer between the crossmember and the mount.
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