Monaco Gp is schumacher gonna win?

Who thinks shumi's gonna win the monaco GP? :naughty:

Do you want the polished response of a ferrari fan, or do you want the response he himself gave the press today?

Who cares about Mikey boy. I'm more interested in seeing any of the other 19 drivers in the race win it.

Having said that, his qualifying time was way slower than practice would have led you to suspect. Two possibilities as I see it: he srewed up yesterday or he must be planning one less stop than the Renaults and Jenson.

If the latter, he'll cruise it. If the former he should still mathematicaly cruise it - at least two stops to overtake Alonso and Jenson, statisticaly Trulli will take care of himself.

Panis apparently caused the first start to be aborted and is now out even before the second warmup lap started.

BAR should be heavily fined for that. Not only was he holding everyone up with a clearlydying engine, he also caused the pileup with a big accident.

Are you saying they should be BARred?

First regular pitstops have started, JPM being the first one in.

Button and Kimi also did their stops while the two Renaults are running away with it.

Schumi flying before his stop!!! Fastest lap after fastest lap after fastest lap while Ferrari are ready for him in the pits.

... and after lap ... he just broke Kimi's lap record.

The leader Trulli pits

Alonso also in while Schumi stays out. There were 8 seconds between Schumi and Trulli before the latter pitted.

Schumi rejoins in third, so he got in front of Kimi and Button with his strategy.

They called in the McBoomer before it McBoomed.

Alonso OUT!!! Crashed into the bariers, safety car out!

He was lapping Ralf in the tunnel and went to the dirty side of the track and just smashed into the barriers.

Trulli pits while MS stays out. This is now interesting!

Trulli is out shining Alonso this year in every way, experience I suppose.

Schumi out!!! Seems he crashed into the wall!

Suspension failure, then JPM punted him.

Appears Schumi made that mistake in the tunnel, closed too quick on the SC.

Trulli and Button, one more fuel stop???

I'm reserving my judgement on the accident. Although even if Schumi had a brain fade, JPM had no business putting him into the wall.

LOL my pole was right he crashed!! :rofl:

LOL my pole was right he crashed!! :rofl:

It was JPM who punted him into the wall, so he did have help crashing.

Jenson closing in!

They're basically together, with 6 laps to go! Passing is another matter though

Smells like a crash in the making.

Trulli controlling the gap perfectly.

Ralf out with a mechanical problem.

Fabulous drive for Trulli!

Jarno Trull wins the 2004 Monaco GP, his hirst GP win ever in 117 startswith Jenson Button coming in second, Rubens in third, JPM in third, Massa in a brilliant fifth, then Damatta (the first of two toyotas in the points), then Nick bringing the first points to the Jordan team and Panis rounding off the top 8. Baumgartner is in ninth and is the last car to see the chequered flag.

Anyway, was a good race, now will be watching BTCC (although my man isn't doing too well there at the moment) :(

It was JPM who punted him into the wall, so he did have help crashing.

True Tru I wonder If he gonna have a talk with him after the race! :evillol:

& congrats to Trulli he earned it. Jenson gave him a hellofva run hehehe.

Trulli didn't put a wheel wrong all weekend (:p to Phil!) - not when he qualified, not when he was in front by some distance, not when he was under immense pressure from Button. Stunning drive.

press talk time...

I wonder hmm jpm being dissucusd....

It was JPM who punted him into the wall, so he did have help crashing.

I'm reserving my judgement on the accident. Although even if Schumi had a brain fade, JPM had no business putting him into the wall.

Do you guys have TVs? :confused:
Nice to see Trulli take his first win, is it a statistic anomaly or a sign of things to come? I suspect the former, Schumacher really should have won that.

Hehehe I got a lcd tv comp monitor im doin picture and picture. :iceslolan

BAR should be heavily fined for that. Not only was he holding everyone up with a clearlydying engine, he also caused the pileup with a big accident.

What about Schumacher post crump? Don't see you complaining about him spreading debris and fluid around for half a lap...

Hard to believe I once had respect for Martin Brundle. During the race, just after Schumacher set his fourth or fifth consecutive fastest lap Martin said something like "Schumi doesn't have the car to win the race but he is driving some stunning laps" Huh? Next he credited Nigel Mansell with 5 Monaco wins :dunno: He completely missed Webber slow before saying how well he was going - huh? He is an ex-Monaco 2004 racer Martin :banghead:

Does anybody pay any attention anymore? I could do a better job, except I'd upset the blind worshipers of the Chin. :screwy:

Didnt' see any fluids, and if he had stopped on track he would have prolonged the safety car period, hope you can see the difference. And if you feel that driving around the track with the engine that everybody knows will blow up and probebly big time, and when it did it cause the accident that could easily have been much worse for Fisico then whatever, it just shows that you'd rather find a case to argue than look at the reasonable side. Don't suppose that Sato-caused crash and safety car played largely into the hands of Schumacher while taking out one of the cars from your team out matters ...

And yes, I have a TV, and I (not sure you noticed even though you quoted it) said that I will reserve the judgement until I know all the facts, but it's just common sense that a lapped driver should not be following the leader who is behind the safety car too close not to be able to avoid an accident. I suppose you also blame Montoya for his crash with Verstappen in Brazin 2001? Whatever. BTW, if you feel you need to defend the Moantoya because he'll be driving for Ron next year, it's been rumoured that he's looking to get out of the contract, so don't try too hard just yet.

Hard to believe I once had respect for Martin Brundle. During the race, just after Schumacher set his fourth or fifth consecutive fastest lap Martin said something like "Schumi doesn't have the car to win the race but he is driving some stunning laps" Huh? Next he credited Nigel Mansell with 5 Monaco wins :dunno: He completely missed Webber slow before saying how well he was going - huh? He is an ex-Monaco 2004 racer Martin :banghead:

Does anybody pay any attention anymore? I could do a better job, except I'd upset the blind worshipers of the Chin. :screwy:

Sounds like a Murray Walker imitation! :lol:

I hear that DC put the blame entirely on Maontoya.

Also JPM is said to have apologised to Ferrari and is expected to make an appearance before the stewards. But of course what's that in the eyes of the people who, rather than celebrate the success of their team, or, for the lack of such, some other driver/team who did an outstanding job, are rather simply happy because of Ferrari/Schumacher not doing well.

I hear that DC put the blame entirely on Maontoya.
Is that his imaginary friend or something? :p

Moantoya?..... :cwm27:

Is that his imaginary friend or something? :p
That would be someone who can see the post-race coverage on RTL.

Lauda just said Moantoya should be penalized ... not looking good for JPM.

Hell I hate this. Trulli wins his first race and here we are discussing Mikey boy. He screwed up - deal with it. Even if Montoya was at fault no way in hell he'd admit it! Wake up people and smell the tyre smoke! (explain how Montoya caused the Ferrari brake lock up that initiated the incident and we'll talk, until then I don't know wether to laugh or cry at your supposed logic and observations)

Laugh at DC and Lauda too then. And explain to me why a lapped driver should be following the race leader behind the safety car with 1/2 of the lap to go before the restart so close that he can't avoid the accident?

Schumi choked, no dispute.

Don't know why Moantoya is getting heat from the incident. Good thing he had that massive Williams punting nose though.

Almost forgot -you're the one who brought the Schumi discussion back into the thread.

Laugh at DC and Lauda too then. And explain to me why a lapped driver should be following the race leader behind the safety car with 1/2 of the lap to go before the restart so close that he can't avoid the accident?

Tyre smoke Alex, tyre smoke. Your agruments are lame if you cannot explain the tyre smoke.

DC said something along the lines of "the race leader behind the safety car dictates the pace and the rest of the field need to adjust to that".

Tyre smoke - the driver warming up his brakes/tyres before the restart.

Answer me this: are you blaming Moantoya for the accident with Verstappen in 2001?

DC said something along the lines of "the race leader behind the safety car dictates the pace and the rest of the field need to adjust to that".

Makes sense but explains Montoya's fault how? Even more tenuis connection to tyre smoke.

Tyre smoke - the driver warming up his brakes/tyres before the restart.

You are really reaching now.

I'll spell it out: Michael was in front and chose to brake to warm up his brakes, JPM, a lapped driver behind him, didn't adjust to the pace and took the leader out of the race, at least that's what i'm inclined to think based on the facts I have, DC's view, Lauda's view, the fact that JPM apologised to Ferrari.

Answer me this: are you blaming Moantoya for the accident with Verstappen in 2001?

To be pedantic there was no such driver on the entry list. To be serious the connection is how? Was Schumacher to blame for Jenson Button's accident behind the pace car at Monza in 2000? Pointless Alex and you know it.