B16a Turbo--> Cost Efficiency?? help
Inspire95
01-18-2002, 11:34 AM
Im wondering how good a B16a if its turbocharged?
What are the things needed to be done to the internals of the engine to accomodate 12psi of boost from a turbo?
What are the drawbacks? like lag and all ..and how do u avoid it?
Any special way of maintaining such engine?
How fast do this things go?
Thanks guys! Im just a curious joe here..hehe! hope you can help!
God Bless!
What are the things needed to be done to the internals of the engine to accomodate 12psi of boost from a turbo?
What are the drawbacks? like lag and all ..and how do u avoid it?
Any special way of maintaining such engine?
How fast do this things go?
Thanks guys! Im just a curious joe here..hehe! hope you can help!
God Bless!
TrUnKs714
01-18-2002, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Inspire95
Im wondering how good a B16a if its turbocharged?
What are the things needed to be done to the internals of the engine to accomodate 12psi of boost from a turbo?
What are the drawbacks? like lag and all ..and how do u avoid it?
Any special way of maintaining such engine?
How fast do this things go?
Thanks guys! Im just a curious joe here..hehe! hope you can help!
God Bless!
u prolly need to get the engine resleeved new lower compression pistons. the only lag is turbo lag, bigger the turbo, mad power but also mad lag. maintain it by not boosting it at 12 lbs all the time. remember to get a turbo timer for the spindown.
Im wondering how good a B16a if its turbocharged?
What are the things needed to be done to the internals of the engine to accomodate 12psi of boost from a turbo?
What are the drawbacks? like lag and all ..and how do u avoid it?
Any special way of maintaining such engine?
How fast do this things go?
Thanks guys! Im just a curious joe here..hehe! hope you can help!
God Bless!
u prolly need to get the engine resleeved new lower compression pistons. the only lag is turbo lag, bigger the turbo, mad power but also mad lag. maintain it by not boosting it at 12 lbs all the time. remember to get a turbo timer for the spindown.
Inspire95
01-19-2002, 12:49 AM
Thanks man!
what is resleeving by the way? im new at this. :)
What about pistons and con rods? what do u need them 4?
Whats a turbo timer 4? how does it work 4 u?
thanks again!
God bless!
what is resleeving by the way? im new at this. :)
What about pistons and con rods? what do u need them 4?
Whats a turbo timer 4? how does it work 4 u?
thanks again!
God bless!
pvang31019
01-20-2002, 10:44 PM
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MatT3T4
01-24-2002, 12:22 PM
You don't need to resleeve your motor, you don't even have to open it up.
In order to be safe, with 12psi on a B16A, you will need the following:
- ample fuel: 370cc injectors, in tank hi-flow fuel pump, adjustable fuel pressure regulator
- spark: I prefer MSD...box, wires, plugs, etc...
- tuning: A'pex V-AFC, Hondata, DFI, etc...
So long as you have ample fuel and spark, and the motor is well tuned, you will be fine. B-series Honda motors are extremely strong. They can withstand 350hp...but only if they are well tuned. Tuning is key. On a daily driven turbocharged B-series Honda motor, you should really never have to mess with a built motor unless you plan on spinning your wheels, and getting smoked by Geo Metro's because you have no traction...
In order to be safe, with 12psi on a B16A, you will need the following:
- ample fuel: 370cc injectors, in tank hi-flow fuel pump, adjustable fuel pressure regulator
- spark: I prefer MSD...box, wires, plugs, etc...
- tuning: A'pex V-AFC, Hondata, DFI, etc...
So long as you have ample fuel and spark, and the motor is well tuned, you will be fine. B-series Honda motors are extremely strong. They can withstand 350hp...but only if they are well tuned. Tuning is key. On a daily driven turbocharged B-series Honda motor, you should really never have to mess with a built motor unless you plan on spinning your wheels, and getting smoked by Geo Metro's because you have no traction...
Inspire95
01-24-2002, 02:33 PM
what do u mean by "you should really never have to mess with a built motor unless you plan on spinning your wheels"?
By the way...what have you heard about HKS ball bearing t25s? How are they...I was thinking of going for as low as 8psi so I can preserve more engine life and those f-con piggys sounds nice too.
Whatcha guys think about this? What about injectors..what type are ideal for this kind of turbo?
Thanks guys!!
By the way...what have you heard about HKS ball bearing t25s? How are they...I was thinking of going for as low as 8psi so I can preserve more engine life and those f-con piggys sounds nice too.
Whatcha guys think about this? What about injectors..what type are ideal for this kind of turbo?
Thanks guys!!
MatT3T4
01-24-2002, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Inspire95
what do u mean by "you should really never have to mess with a built motor unless you plan on spinning your wheels"?
By the way...what have you heard about HKS ball bearing t25s? How are they...I was thinking of going for as low as 8psi so I can preserve more engine life and those f-con piggys sounds nice too.
Whatcha guys think about this? What about injectors..what type are ideal for this kind of turbo?
Thanks guys!!
By saying that, I mean that the stock motor can handle up to 350hp. On the street, 350hp is so much that you will already have NO traction. Anything more, and you will be even worse off for the most part...
what do u mean by "you should really never have to mess with a built motor unless you plan on spinning your wheels"?
By the way...what have you heard about HKS ball bearing t25s? How are they...I was thinking of going for as low as 8psi so I can preserve more engine life and those f-con piggys sounds nice too.
Whatcha guys think about this? What about injectors..what type are ideal for this kind of turbo?
Thanks guys!!
By saying that, I mean that the stock motor can handle up to 350hp. On the street, 350hp is so much that you will already have NO traction. Anything more, and you will be even worse off for the most part...
Spunkymonkey
01-25-2002, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Inspire95
Im wondering how good a B16a if its turbocharged?
What are the things needed to be done to the internals of the engine to accomodate 12psi of boost from a turbo?
What are the drawbacks? like lag and all ..and how do u avoid it?
Any special way of maintaining such engine?
How fast do this things go?
Thanks guys! Im just a curious joe here..hehe! hope you can help!
God Bless!
There is a civic with a turbo B16a here, which apparently runs mid 11's for a quarter mile.
Im wondering how good a B16a if its turbocharged?
What are the things needed to be done to the internals of the engine to accomodate 12psi of boost from a turbo?
What are the drawbacks? like lag and all ..and how do u avoid it?
Any special way of maintaining such engine?
How fast do this things go?
Thanks guys! Im just a curious joe here..hehe! hope you can help!
God Bless!
There is a civic with a turbo B16a here, which apparently runs mid 11's for a quarter mile.
MatT3T4
01-25-2002, 10:19 AM
I used to have a B16A with a custom Rev Hrd turbo kit in my EJ. B16A turbos are SICK! My car ran 12s on street tires. I never clocked it on real slicks, but it was an 11 second car. That was with the stock internals. After I built it, it didn't change, I never really boosted extremely high, but you get the idea...it was extremely fast, and was my one and only daily driver. :bloated:
TypeSi
01-28-2002, 06:54 AM
so would a t3/t4 turbo be too big? will it have mad lag or what will be the ideal turbo for the b16
MatT3T4
01-28-2002, 10:04 AM
T3/T4 works great...
pvang31019
01-28-2002, 03:40 PM
depends what trim though...:)
TypeSi
01-28-2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by pvang31019
depends what trim though...:)
well for my trim a 00 si with just the turbo kit would that be cool, boosting no more that 6-8 psi. (drag 3 kit)
depends what trim though...:)
well for my trim a 00 si with just the turbo kit would that be cool, boosting no more that 6-8 psi. (drag 3 kit)
pvang31019
01-29-2002, 12:44 AM
what trim turbo?
TypeSi
01-30-2002, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by pvang31019
what trim turbo?
the t3/t4 trim mainly the grag 3 kit
what trim turbo?
the t3/t4 trim mainly the grag 3 kit
pvang31019
01-30-2002, 06:28 PM
the specs that come with the turbo in the 00 si kits should be okay...
TypeSi
01-31-2002, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by pvang31019
the specs that come with the turbo in the 00 si kits should be okay...
cool thats good enough i guess ill just have to see for myself:)
the specs that come with the turbo in the 00 si kits should be okay...
cool thats good enough i guess ill just have to see for myself:)
MatT3T4
02-01-2002, 11:56 AM
any turbo from the t3/t4 family will be alright
SleeperCivic
02-24-2002, 12:40 AM
MatT3T4
03-06-2002, 02:21 PM
The GReddy kit on a B-series motor is kinda weak. Poorly matched turbochargers for their application, restrictive, etc...Don't get me wrong, GReddy is an awesome company, and I dig their products (especially the SOHC turbo kit!)...but the B-series kits are weak. They put a huge emphasis on keeping it C.A.R.B. legal (see: restrictive)...but once you upgrade ANYTHING else on the motor, you can kiss that C.A.R.B. eo# goodbye, so it is nothing more than a fruitless effort at legality that leaves you with 40hp-50hp less than the other kits.
For a B-series, you want to stick with the big boys...Rev Hard (first and foremost), then on to DRAG, then F-MAX...(in order of quality and power).
For a B-series, you want to stick with the big boys...Rev Hard (first and foremost), then on to DRAG, then F-MAX...(in order of quality and power).
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