First Street Race

So, i finaly got a race out here in the boonies between montreal and ottawa. I was waiting at a light, talking to a friend of a friend in the back seat who was saying my car, which is by the way a stock 2002 Pontiac Grand Am sedan with a V6) was weak so I started reving my engine. When I stopped I hear this engine rev beside me, i look over and see this blue sunfire with a guy lookin back at me. As soon as the light turns green, i floor the gas pedal and took off. I had a lead on him the whole way to the next light and just as i started to slow down to stop the light turned green and the sunfire pulled up beside me, so I floored it again and put a least a car length between us before we came to the next light. He gave me the thumbs up before turning off the main road. I'm happy I won my first race, but I dont think a 140hp sunfire was rly a challenge for my V6 and I dont think the race when above 100km/h. Since then some guys at school, who have a 96 Maxima, Subaru Outback and some kind of acura supposedly with 150hp, have challenged me to races so I'll post some updates on that later.

yeah you should try racing faster cars that are more in your league, if you want a challenge

Yeah keep us updated those car are more of a challenge for you!

"some kind of acura supposedly with 150hp" ... INTEGRA GS-R has 170 so don't think that acura's have little power or that they cannot acheive good 1/4 mile times, same thing with honda's. and if its a TYPE R or a Turbo'd Teg than your in for an ass whoopin. but nice kill

Dude do you know if the sunfire was standard or autoand your little ponitac would lose because he has a 2.2 engine and you have this little v6 :iceslolan hahahahahaha :loser:

well good kill, lucky it wasnt a 2.4L DOHC, cause i know those can take a Grand Prix GT. But dont mock the I-4. Mine puts out 150 HP stock and my real advantage is that the car weighs less than 2700 lbs which makes for a real nice TQ-HP to weight ratio. Stock it can run high 15's. But GJ on the kill, i used to own a 2.2L cavy and it was semi quick, nothing to special.

Nice kill! :2cents:

do these guys really believe that carp or what

FYI, for the last time, it's C-R-A-P.

you are a genius.

stop posting, and leave.

do these guys really believe your crap?
dwell on that for a minute jeanyus.

your lucky it was a 2.2 ohv (96whp) or possibly a 2.4(140whp) or ecotec(133whp) auto. A five speed Ecotec or 2.4 TC would have murdered you even if he was a mildly bad driver. Jayson can agree with me.

god another ecotec fan boy. . .

Cavalier owners must really love cavaliers... leave it up to 140 hp to murder something...well i wouldnt.

140hp is a bit different when it's coming from an SR20 and sitting in a 2400lb SE-R...:D

the 2.4L 150 HP Z24 can run high 15's stock. Combine that with really good low end torque and this car will take off really well off the line. The ecotec fan boys just wish they had z24s' thats why they alway say that it beats the z24. My z24 auto eats ecotecs like candy, manual and auto. Ecotec fanboys think that because they have 10 less crank HP that its a good engine, but it doesnt get its max Torque and HP untill a higher RPM band. ANd when your racing what RPM range do you spend most of the time in? low, as soon as you get to high RPMS you shift and the RPMS drop again. So many ecotec fanboys fail to realize this.

actually i own an 88 and its been a very nice driving car, except the normal wear and tear, but for a 16 y/o car with only 105000 miles on it...it runs good:)

the 2.4L 150 HP Z24 can run high 15's stock. Combine that with really good low end torque and this car will take off really well off the line. The ecotec fan boys just wish they had z24s' thats why they alway say that it beats the z24. My z24 auto eats ecotecs like candy, manual and auto. Ecotec fanboys think that because they have 10 less crank HP that its a good engine, but it doesnt get its max Torque and HP untill a higher RPM band. ANd when your racing what RPM range do you spend most of the time in? low, as soon as you get to high RPMS you shift and the RPMS drop again. So many ecotec fanboys fail to realize this.High 15's are not fast..

High 15's are not fast..

:owned:

ANd when your racing what RPM range do you spend most of the time in? low, as soon as you get to high RPMS you shift and the RPMS drop again. So many ecotec fanboys fail to realize this.

Who races in low rpms? The only time you should EVER be in low rpms when you're trying to race(or win), would be the first time you sweep the tach in 1st gear. If your car drops into low rpms after every shift, get a new car.

15 seconds is fast if your car came from the factory doing 18 seconds

I wasn't saying acuras werent powerful, but my friend to me he didnt know what kind of acura it was but he knew it had around 150hp. Also I don't know a lot about cars but would a 2.2L or 2.4L really beat 3.4L engine even though my cars probably heavier?

Who really cares, your talking about cars on the low end of the food chain. What do you people really expect, anything over 14.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile is not fast. If you think otherwise, go to a track on the weekends and watch those cars.

my friend had a 3.0l acura that only had 150hp but the car did upwards of 150mph, took it forever but it got thier, it also didn't handle worth crap but i figured the whole displacement acura thing could throw a monkey wrench into the equation

First of all. I dont really consider that "street racing" if it was just a red light race. Second of all, get a better car.

Second of all, get a better car.

Thanks for the great advice, you know I was going to get that Enzo at the used car lot, but I was short by about 1.99 Million. So unless your offering to give me money, I don't really have a choice. Anyways, I've just started to upgrade the sound system with some pioneer speakers/subs, amp and a new deck and I'm planning on getting a custom turbocharger from HP Performance, and a computer upgrade from Digital Horsepower.

140hp is a bit different when it's coming from an SR20 and sitting in a 2400lb SE-R...:D

With a limited slip diff :iceslolan
Most of these people with ecotechs think that the engine is a godsend , and they act like idiots. I do admit that when I drive my mothers alero with a 2.2 ecotec it does provide excitement. :rofl:

somebody wrote a note to me questioning my 150mph in an 89 acura legend v6 5 speed. ask anyone on the acura board how fast these cars go. they will tell you im right

so what is wrong with the ecotec? its actually quite an impressive little engine, and it seams like most people on here are forgetting, i have yet to see a stock I4 that can challenge my grossly underpowered 170hp 305cid V8 in my 3600lbs camaro. throw a turbo and an intercooler on that ecotec with a 5 speed, and i think yall'd have a newfound respect for it. that engine is being used in drag racing and now land speed racing in a modern belly tank racer. ecotec is basicly the domestic version of the V-Tec engine. both are in all honesty quite weak stock. it takes aftermarket tuning to make them wake up.

i have yet to see a stock I4 that can challenge my grossly underpowered 170hp 305cid V8 in my 3600lbs camaro.

LMFAO

I'll race you in my stock I-4, FWD, 12-yr-old, POS car, bro...maybe, JUUST maybe, I might eke-out a win.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a former Beretta GTZ owner. The Ecotec will never match the innovation that the QUAD-4 H.O. (180-190HP stock) was.

good kill
i raced and won a 02 grand am some months ago form stop light to stop light they are pretty quick
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i have yet to see a stock I4 that can challenge my grossly underpowered 170hp 305cid V8 in my 3600lbs camaro.

I can think of several I4 cars that can straight up embarass your Fbody.

Chrysler Lebaron GTC
Dodge SRT-4
Dodge Omni GLH/GLH-S
Shelby Daytona
Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T/GSX
Mitsubishi EVO VII/VIII
Mitsubishi Starion
Nissan S13/S14 KA24DE
Nissan Sentra SE-R
Nissan Altima
Chevy Beretta GTZ
Honda Civic Si
Acura Integra GSR
Acura Integra Type-R
Hyundai Elantra
Hyundai Tiburon
Ford Focus SVT
Ford Focus ZX3
BMW Mini Cooper-S

WRX - Not I4, but still a 4 Banger
RX-7 - Not I4, doesn't even have pistons.

The list goes on...

that engine is being used in drag racing and now land speed racing in a modern belly tank racer.

Yes, but those motors are far from stock... so let's not even open that can of worms. You don't see me going around saying that the motor in my Nova is the same thing as the motor in a NEXTEL Cup car do you? Sure, they're based off the same design, but far from being the same.


ecotec is basicly the domestic version of the V-Tec engine. both are in all honesty quite weak stock. it takes aftermarket tuning to make them wake up.


Every manufacture has it's version of Vtec. Honda's version just has more name recognition from a few movies, and it they make it seem like it's the end all technology.

Hell, your Camaro has a form of Variable valve timing. You've got hydraulic lifters... they don't give you full lift of the cam till you're at X,XXXrpm till the oil pressure inside builds. Variable valve timing, is nothing new. Honda just capitalized on a catchy name.

Cypher37, hold on one minute while I tell you what all can beat you, OK? Instead of telling you "good job for the kill" or trying to help you improve your times; I wont take into consideration your post anymore, I hope thats alright. WHY does this happen in every post a n00b makes...please...let me know...

Anyway, don't get to cocky, Cypher37, we are twin turboing a 95 Cavy up in those parts, watch out for it, haha. :) ....Then again...do you want twin turbos? We could use another Canadian to work on, Let me know if you in!

[QUOTE=RedNeck383]I can think of several I4 cars that can straight up embarass your Fbody.


Nissan Sentra SE-R <= please tell me youre joking, not even a challenge

Nissan Altima <= maxima ate me for a snack,but these i can handle, but its close

Honda Civic Si <= hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..... ha
Acura Integra GSR <= beat
Acura Integra Type-R <= beat, but not by much
Hyundai Elantra <= lmfao
Hyundai Tiburon <=nope sorry

yes there are some out there that are hot, those above are not among them, weather by driver error, or being a slow four banger ;) they all fell to the RS and the mighty 305 boat anchor, i have yet to have the pleasure of having my butt handed to me by any of the four bangers you listed, although im sure plenty of them can, the only I4 that has beat me to date, had a turbo. and yes *hangs head* it was a civic ;) but also, keep in mind that i do not top speed race, i stoplight to stoplight race, so i dont really have enough time for my 305 to fall flat on its face, and for the I4's to wind up and get going, i destroy them off the line, and then pull away, and by that time i am slowing down for the next stop sign. so that could also play a factor.

as far as the racing ecotecs, no the drag racing version is not stock, its destroked down to 2L and has a massive turbo on it, and probly a few other things i dont know about. but the land speed racer in the belly tanker to my knowledge uses a completely stock supercharged ecotec that will be coming out in the saturn Ion red next year. or this year.... something like that.

Nissan Sentra SE-R <= please tell me youre joking, not even a challenge BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

For a mod, you make a good newb.

Here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=130547&highlight=carrrnuttt+90redgt

All those 4-bangers Red listed are 15-second cars or better, STOCK.

The day you can break 15's with your 305 without spending twice the value of your car, is the day I will officially wear my fur-lined jacket, in the middle of summertime Arizona. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/ices_lol_ani.gif

You say you got beat by a Maxima? I've beat several of those around my town. BTW, with a light-weight flywheel and sport clutch, with maybe an intake, Sentra SE-Rs are capable of mid-high 14's.

The moral of the story for me? ANYONE can become a mod nowadays.

The moral of the story for you? Learn to research before you "open your mouth".

i have yet to see a stock I4 that can challenge my grossly underpowered 170hp 305cid V8 in my 3600lbs camaro.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/991-1.jpg

Nuff said.

[QUOTE=RedNeck383] but also, keep in mind that i do not top speed race, i stoplight to stoplight race, so i dont really have enough time for my 305 to fall flat on its face, and for the I4's to wind up and get going, i destroy them off the line, and then pull away, and by that time i am slowing down for the next stop sign. so that could also play a factor.


So you're playing your cards smart, that's cool. But you're subconsciously admitting to yourself that once the 4 banger gets out of the hole it'll walk past you.

If you were to race any one of those vehicles longer than the average distance between a city street light, like maybe a full 1320ft (1/4 mile) you'll soon realise that they are indeed much faster.

With your 170hp and I assume 5 speed. Your car at best would run mid 16s. New. Period.

TPI 350 w/Auto would run low 15s and rare occasions break into the high 14s stock. That's with 240-245hp... you're down 70-75hp from it, and you're telling me that you can run with cars it'd have trouble out pacing? Please... I'm a Chevy guy, and even I think you're so full it.

hehe my 4bannager ran 15.8 stock from the factory back in 91 im about intohi 14's low 15's with less then $700 in mods..

haha... SUPER 7. you just got majorly :owned:

btw...nice pic Layla's Keeper :evillol:

well not having taken the RS to the track, cant vouge for the 1/4 mile speeds,

but also i dont BS,

if i tell you ive beaten a car, i have, you notice i didnt argue all the four bangers on there, only those i had raced and beaten, that i admitted my racing style, and even threw out that my wins may have been to driver error on the part of the 4 banger driver. so im not claming untouchable glory. im not a stuck in the 60's, "it aint a dinosoar chugging big block, it aint fast" kinda guy, sorry if i came off that way, but i am just tellin ya like its been for me is all. oh and the RS is an automatic, 700-R4 with a 3.06:1 first gear, which is why i eat em off the line, that and the torque. oh and i have the TPI350 as well, also with the 700R4 which also has yet to go to the track as i am in the process of restoring it, but while she was on the road, i really would have liked to see any of the cars i beat in the RS try to keep up. although the IROC does have headers, full exhaust, fully built B&M tranny with stage two shift kit, corvette servo, and the BW posi rear end. and is running closer to 270-280hp.

bottom line for me - yall can benchrace numbers all ya want, i spit the truth as ive seen it

bottom line for you - realize that my bashing I4's makeing you uptight and bothered, and then try to proove me wrong with numbers, just makes me smile ;) not to be a prick or nothin.

bottom line for you - realize that my bashing I4's makeing you uptight and bothered, and then try to proove me wrong with numbers, just makes me smile ;) not to be a prick or nothin.
I will just assume that you didn't click on my link, and post this for you:


G-Tech time, with generic cone-filter, and advanced timing, 1992 Sentra SE-R:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/741378G-Tech.jpg

Now, if you're going to tell me that your piddly 305, that I DO have experience with, and/or, against, can go that fast, then list your mods, and we'll take an accounting.

How about YOU prove ME wrong "with numbers"? http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/disappointed.gif

P.S. It's not your "bashing I4's" that has got me "uptight and bothered". It's the fact that somebody who was elected a mod, can sound so dumb...cheapens the profession.

lol.............RS camaro...........thats like driving a CX civic.Low class and no balls.............did i mention now power?

If you think about it carnutt, my comparison is pretty good.I think the CX will give the RS a good run for it s money! :rofl:

3.06 FIRST gear huh... I never have really been that impressed with the TPI motors myself, except that they produce huge amounts of torque. Yes, stock they have around 220 or 240 HP, but they have over 300 lb. ft. of torque, so it's not hard to imagine that he can take imports off of the line. But they are hard engines to get more horsepower out of, so if you can get large amounts of horsepower out of one of those, you're alright in my eyes. Good luck and keep modifying.

3.06 FIRST gear huh... I never have really been that impressed with the TPI motors myself, except that they produce huge amounts of torque. Yes, stock they have around 220 or 240 HP, but they have over 300 lb. ft. of torque, so it's not hard to imagine that he can take imports off of the line. But they are hard engines to get more horsepower out of, so if you can get large amounts of horsepower out of one of those, you're alright in my eyes. Good luck and keep modifying.

That's the thing he HIMSELF said that he has the 170-HP 305 motor, on the RS, no doubt. My best friend in high school (hint: I graduated in 1992), had an '89 or '90 RS with the same motor, and his much newer (at the time) RS used to get STOMPED on by our other friend's then brand-new 1992 GS-R, and another school-mate's 1990 Mazda MX-6 turbo. All cars were stock. As a matter of fact, my dad's beater, a lowly 88-HP Toyota Tercel, didn't get left too far behind that Camaro. I've driven the Camaro too, so all his "experiences" don't count for shit, unless he comes in, and starts listing his mods - which is the only way all his claims can be true.

If you think about it carnutt, my comparison is pretty good.I think the CX will give the RS a good run for it s money! :rofl:

Therein is another part of my experience with the 305 TPI. I had a 1997 Civic LX with, after all my mods, probably had a measly 130 crank HP, and I took an RS out with it from a stop. Yes, it was an auto.

*sigh* well actualy the 305 with 170hp is not the TPI, that had 190hp, i have the TBI 305, which arguably has higher rpm potential due to a shorter intake runner. do i think this is a drag racer extrodinare by any means, no, i havent tried to say it is. you seem to be stuck on that misconception. as ive said many times, im only listingthe cars ive beat, street racing, for whatever reason. they lost, im not going to lie and say they beat me to appease you.

oh and PLEASE, go find that 97 civic LX and line it up with my 89 RS, and i will pay 100 dollars if you can take it from a stop, i assume you mean off the line, cuz thats hilarious.

oh and running 15 seconds or less without spending twice the value of my car???? are you joking???? lets see, i think its valued at around 2600 bucks. well right now im probly running between 15.5 and 16 in the quarter, bone stock, no mods. thats a guess as i havent run her at the track. lets put in some 3.42 gears to replace the 2.73 gears it has now 200 bucks, a torsen posi unit for 100 bucks, vortec heads and intake for TBI, 300 bucks (junkyard heads off a suburban or tahoe), so thats 600, how about a cam kit, xtream energy 252 perhaps, 400 or so, 300 left, how bout a set of edelbrock headers?? so by spending 1300, desktop dyno, which i have found to be relatively accurate, places power at 348hp and 389lbs ft, id say 300hp and 350lbs ft is more accurate. with the better traction, and better gears, easily break 15s. run low 14s, and on a good day, MIGHT even hit a 13.99 or so. so perhaps you shouldnt sound like such a noob by throwing out trash talk like you did before about spending twice the value of a car. perhaps you should bust out the winter wear.

hehehe, a moderator war, lol this is very interesting. :iceslolan

I think Carrrnuttt got the SE-R for less than $2000, generic cone filters can be had for like $25 at Autozone. His bump in timing, that's free... and a slipping clutch on crap tires also free but don't help.

He got a 15.00... not to shabby...


SR20DE > TBI 305

:p


Hmmm my car...
Purchase price: $2700
New motor and transmission: $1900
Misc. Parts Needed (FMIC, Exhaust, ect.): $1000-1500

Total: $5600-6100 into the car...

Low 13s easy if I get good rubber on the wheels.

Throw another $2000 at the car in general, looking at most likely 11's and the ability to corner with the best.

Not bad for a 32 year old car.

redneck i seen fmic in your referenc to your car do you plan on turboing that z?(please say yes)..
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well right now im probly running between 15.5 and 16 in the quarter, bone stock, no mods.

Uhm so...those are the numbers you are coming back with then, to counter mine? I got one word for 'ya: PROOF. Hell, I don't even care if you are actually lying, and did some mods you didn't tell us, just show some actual proof. You know why I say that? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T. You are making assumptions, and talking out of your ass. You probably never even got ghetto with a stop-watch, to be guesstimating your times.

LOL. Making speed claims without proof. How RICER of you.

PROOF man, PROOF.

P.S. You make a statement that a Sentra SE-R is not even a match for you, yet I put up ACTUAL NUMBERS from a basically stock 12-yr-old one, running 15-flats and you counter that your car *in your estimation* is running mid 15's, to 16-flats - and that's with you over-boasting about your car - how's that for talking out, around, and inside your ass?

redneck i seen fmic in your referenc to your car do you plan on turboing that z?(please say yes)..
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What else would I use a FMIC for?... Grilling eggs? :lol:

bottom line for me - yall can benchrace numbers all ya want, i spit the truth as ive seen it

bottom line for you - realize that my bashing I4's makeing you uptight and bothered, and then try to proove me wrong with numbers, just makes me smile ;) not to be a prick or nothin.How bout a Honda S2000? I know you could never take one of those. :)

what about a caterham superlight R600?

250hp, about 500kg....thats gonna beat most street cars currently out there. out of a 2 litre four

GEEZUS CHRIST!!!!! dude, you got some balls flat out calling me a liar, when you dont know shit, you were never in the car, you dont know why i beat the other cars, hell for i i know they missed the shift and the trans gave out, but fuck you for calling me a liar, when i dont BS, i have nothing to proove to any of you, i am just calling it like it has happend, and i cant offer times, cuz as ive said multiple times, ive never taken her to the track. so i dont know. the cars ive beat, i have, for whatever reason, if you dont like it, you can go cry in the corner, it happend, get over it.

redneck, i wasnt compairing the cost of modding the camaro to the cost of modding the SE-R, i was pointing out his ignorance in saying i would have to spend twice what i spend on the car to break 15s. when he tries to call me a noob for calling out cars i have actually beat on the street. sorry i dont carry a vid camera with me everywhere, and feel like driving two hours to go to the track. i dont really have the time. plus the cars are both on jackstands as of right now.

oh and the S2000 is overrated, having worked at a honda dealership, i really dont like those cars. personal taste mostly, but ill still stomp those from a standing start, but yes, in a long range race, which i dont do because i dont want to kill a family in a minivan, it would pull away.

but ill still stomp those from a standing start, but yes, in a long range race, which i dont do because i dont want to kill a family in a minivan, it would pull away.

What's long range to you? 50 feet? A well-launched S2000 can hit 1.9 60-foots, and 2.3 is for the average driver.

Cars you've beat on the streets? Can you tell the difference between a "regular" Sentra, and an SE-R? I'm asking because even I have to look for the signs. What about the difference between a GS or LS Integra, and a GS-R? A Type R? You sure it was real?

No matter how you slice it, you talked out of your ass, talked-down about cars you obviously know NOTHING about, made blanket-statements about cars that show general weakness in the knowledge of, and/or ignorance of cars in general, all the while trying to talk-up a car you claim is faster than what it ran when brand-new...and it's stock. All qualities that trolls are usually warned about, and all this coming from a mod. It amuses me, annoys me, and shames me, all at the same time.

Resign man. Seriously.

1.9 second 60 foot times huh, i find that entertaining, seeing as a turbocharged 89 civic running mid 11 second ets is running 1.7 second 60 ft times. for my own education could you post a link to where you found the info on that car???

its a simple matter of torque, S2K's dont have any, you have to rev them up to get them to get out of their own ways, those are 14 second cars, faster in the quarter than my RS no doubt, but off the line, youve got to be joking, and you call me the noob.

hmm tell the difference, well seeing as i work at a combined chevy / NISSAN dealership, i might have it covered, thanx for the insult. as far as the Integra type R, i will admit, with all the rice around, its entirely possible it was just a badged integra. fair enough.

now, if you actually go back and read the posts, i never claimed my car was anything, my words were that i have yet to race a 4 banger that beat me, save for the turbocharged civic, which i might add was blowing blue smoke from its exhaust the whole time it drove away, very reliable engines no doubt. and thats true. you dont like it tough, thats the way the cards have fell for me, with how i race, with how its happend. i dont know how to make that any more clear to you, apparently your too much of a douche to figure it out. i never said that a four banger cannot beat a V8, and i never said that my tired 305 will beat al four bangers, i said i hadnt raced one. the cars i listed have been beaten by me, thats not spam, thats not troll, thats fact. your the one who keeps pushing for facts you know i dont have, downtalking me personally (by calling me a liar which i take very personal offence to) and downtalking my car, and then posting numbers on the S2K which are laughable at best. you can talk all the numbers you want, and they may tell you youre right, i talk from my experience, it may be limited in regards to that list posted previously, but its my experience none the less, and im not lying about it. you cant handle that, thats your problem, its no call for telling me to resign, because you cant grasp the simple shit. Fing grow up.

Ok man.. Seem's as though your only a straight line guy, Am I right? Possibly your car might launch better then a S2k, Who care's? Right?.. Not all road's are straight. Compare YOUR car Against a S2000 on a whindy course.. Who win's there?

And why in the hell do you have to get so pissed off when we mention shit to you? Those word's directed toward's me I never expected a moderator to be saying. Yes, I did call you a liar that you can't beat a S2000 because all of us here know that it is one hell of a car for being only a 2.0 four cylinder.


Tell use to grow up? We aren't the one's getting out pantie's in a bunch when you say stuff, Seriously man, I think you take shit way to seriously when it come's to your car. There are plenty of car's out there that can beat your car, My aunt had and old camaro Z28 with a 5.0 305CI in it, It was moderatly fast, But no where near what car's have now-a-day's. And to top that off, It handled worse then my Dad's semi did.



Untill you can show us cold hard proof your Camaro can take an S2000, Or better yet, A Nissan Sentra SE-R, Can you just stop arguing over what is faster and what's slower?

its a simple matter of torque, S2K's dont have any, you have to rev them up to get them to get out of their own ways, those are 14 second cars, faster in the quarter than my RS no doubt, but off the line, youve got to be joking, and you call me the noob.
http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=95888&highlight=%2520userid147 http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

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With a good burnout, i've seen 1.89 60 foots and a 13.70 with a completely stock s2000.

I refused to do burnouts and did a 60 foot of 2.1xxx and you see the info in my sig...
That's not even the best time in a completely stock S2000. Also, A moderator from bimmerforums.com, SilverStreak, drove his friend's stock S2000 to a 13.66, with a 1.9 60'. Go on there yourself, and ask him. Tell him carrrnuttt, with 3 r's and 3 t's sent ya...I have the same screenname over there.

See, unlike some people, I try not to talk out of my ass. Also, I HIGHLY doubt if you can really sell that RS of yours for 2,600 clams.

Noob.

Ok man.. Seem's as though your only a straight line guy, Am I right? Possibly your car might launch better then a S2k, Who care's? Right?.. Not all road's are straight. Compare YOUR car Against a S2000 on a whindy course.. Who win's there?

And why in the hell do you have to get so pissed off when we mention shit to you? Those word's directed toward's me I never expected a moderator to be saying. Yes, I did call you a liar that you can't beat a S2000 because all of us here know that it is one hell of a car for being only a 2.0 four cylinder.


Tell use to grow up? We aren't the one's getting out pantie's in a bunch when you say stuff, Seriously man, I think you take shit way to seriously when it come's to your car. There are plenty of car's out there that can beat your car, My aunt had and old camaro Z28 with a 5.0 305CI in it, It was moderatly fast, But no where near what car's have now-a-day's. And to top that off, It handled worse then my Dad's semi did.



Untill you can show us cold hard proof your Camaro can take an S2000, Or better yet, A Nissan Sentra SE-R, Can you just stop arguing over what is faster and what's slower?

no offense buddy but it sounds as if your the one tripin. he never said he could beat a s2000 he said there starts are slow. and from reading this funny as hell thread i don't think he's taking things too seriously, i think he's taking them as i and lots others would (not saying he's right or wrong)but his reactions are not over the top. :2cents:

ok proceed :iceslolan

last post here, this isnt worth my time, this isnt admitting lying (im not get over it) however, in that very same post the guy running those times, comes back and says that he is running cold air intake, slicks, and weight reduction, not stock.

as far as the guy claiming to have seen the 1.9 second 60 ft times, i find it funny that you support his claims, with no proof, as they support what you are saying, yet my claims with no proof are obviously fake. hmmm..........

Sk8ter in NY - i apologize if you felt any of those angry words were aimed at you, they werent, i simply disagreed with you that the car was as fast as you said, and that i personaly disliked it, my words were for carrrnuttt. although i also agreed that in the long run it would pull on me, and i agree now that with the weight of my car and stock suspension setup the S2000 would eat me alive at a road course. although i can take a 90 degree turn at 40mph without so much as squeeling tires, so i kinda disagree with the semi truck statement.

on the whole, i put forth an apology for my overall actions, its late, ive had a long day, and i let carrrnuttt get to me, Sk8ter in NY is correct, and this isnt how a mod should conduct himself, and i apologize for it. however i never lied, its not what i do, so take it as you will. but this forum is apparently not interested in peoples real life stories, and preferr instead to argue about magazine articles and numbers. so ill take my leave. im sure youll all do a little victory dance about it. knock yourselves out.