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jcsaleen
05-18-2004, 05:02 PM
If a Mclaren is crashed (beyond repair) should another be built in its place?
Not counting the lm's only the gtr and road goin f1's with or without the highdownforce kit. I personally think they should but it should not take the # of the mclaren that was crashed.

Newton22
05-18-2004, 05:09 PM
No.

denis177
05-18-2004, 05:18 PM
If a Mclaren is crashed (beyond repair) should another be built in its place?
Not counting the lm's only the gtr and road goin f1's with or without the highdownforce kit. I personally think they should but it should not take the # of the mclaren that was crashed.

no way it would spoil the reputation.

McLaren F1 Guy
05-18-2004, 05:22 PM
What would be the point? The value would go up slower because the amount would always stay the same.

jcsaleen
05-18-2004, 06:07 PM
Finally some controversy. But y just cause of the value that y you wouldn't want it to be placed. and the other thing is im say the car that was (totaled) its counter part the second car being built would be exactly the same as the 1 that was totaled color and all. I'm not saying that they should build 5 in its place but just the 1 to replace but.. then again the more that crash the more they are in CA$H.

mini magic
05-18-2004, 06:11 PM
they can't so why ask?

Peloton25
05-18-2004, 06:38 PM
Finally some controversy.

What's so great about controversy? :confused: :confused:

Is this forum just too boring for you since we aren't always going back and forth arguning with each other over this and that like most other car forums on the web? :screwy: :uhoh:

In my mind, the great thing about this forum is the open flow of information between a great group of people who love the F1 and want to learn as much as possible. Occasionally we have differences of opinion, but for the most part its discussed on the level. I see no need to stir the pot with a little controversy - we have a good thing going here, why mess it up.

Anyway, if your looking for those types of discussions I'd suggest looking elsewhere.

>8^)
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MalkaJB
05-18-2004, 07:17 PM
What would be the point? The value would go up slower because the amount would always stay the same.

Hey, I'm all for anything that would keep the number of F1s from dropping lower than it already is, regardless of what it does to the value. I think if McLaren did that, it would be great. Too bad they don't. :disappoin

Is this forum just too boring for you since we aren't always going back and forth arguning with each other over this and that like most other car forums on the web? :screwy: :uhoh:

*COUGH* Supercars.net *COUGH* *COUGH*

mini magic
05-18-2004, 08:09 PM
thats why i left that place. it was so dumb

Peloton25
05-18-2004, 08:16 PM
I just ignore it - it's actually not so bad in the main forums, but when you get down to their indie forums for each specific car model it can get horribly bad. I see that Stratoraptor tries to fight the good fight on occasion in those forums which relate to the F1, but there are just so many juveniles or complete idiots in there it can get kind of tiring trying to share accurate information.

>8^)
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jcsaleen
05-18-2004, 11:16 PM
In my mind, the great thing about this forum is the open flow of information between a great group of people who love the F1 and want to learn as much as possible. ~ Peleton25

Yes your absolutely and that is y I joined A.F im not afraid to admit it I don't know everything but 1 person might know something I don't and I might know something they don't and thats y we join forums however its not a bad thing to have controversy. But there are some Ass-O's on A.F do push thing to far which pisses me off. When people are kno their wrong and they keep arguing thats what ruins forums Ass-O's like that.


But anyway I think if a Mclaren is completely totaled they should build another and by that I mean the exact same color and all. Because what were to happen if all road goin f1's were all destroyed then what the number is bound to decrease eventually. I mean just look at the incident in S.A with the black SLR. Thank god the cars fine which I must say is a very big astonishment I never new C.F was actually that strong. Anyway I made this post so people can say there "opinions". There is no fact even though as stated by Mini that mclaren dosent make them anymore.

drewwtms
05-19-2004, 11:59 AM
Why should they? The legacy will always live on. Why should they reproduce a car?

jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 04:25 PM
Why should they? The legacy will always live on. Why should they reproduce a car?

its not really reproducing its just replacing.

Thorst13
05-19-2004, 04:42 PM
I know if I had a Mc and totaled it I would have gone mad if they werent able to at least help me get another one! :banghead:

I'm actually both for & against reproducing a Mc.

But, it's a really pointless discussion as I seriously doubt McLaren would ever consider something like that!

Come to think of :screwy: , what if U crash your LM or GT?
Do they repair it, or is it lost forever..... :screwy:

Newton22
05-19-2004, 05:30 PM
Well, jcsaleen, you have your opinions, and that's fine.

Even if McLaren Cars are able to produce more F1s, I just think they shouldn't, because the McLaren F1 is a limited marque. McLaren only built 100 F1s (the exact number may vary according to your opinion/sources etc.), and I think it should stay that way. The McLaren would only be "another" supercar if they kept production. If we bring back more McLarens, why not bring back more F50s, XJ220s, 959s? :D

MalkaJB
05-19-2004, 06:22 PM
Come on guys, give the guy a break. He was just trying to give us a topic to discuss. You don't have to jump all over him.

And I think that some of you are confused. He isn't talking about putting the car back into production, just replacing the cars that have already been, or may be destroyed in the future.

I think its a good idea jcsaleen. :bigthumb:

jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 08:11 PM
Come on guys, give the guy a break. He was just trying to give us a topic to discuss. You don't have to jump all over him.

And I think that some of you are confused. He isn't talking about putting the car back into production, just replacing the cars that have already been, or may be destroyed in the future.

I think its a good idea jcsaleen. :bigthumb:
Thanks some1 it least has an imagination. Damn wouldn't want to be speedn by that cop. :iceslolan

Peloton25
05-19-2004, 08:48 PM
Come on guys, give the guy a break. He was just trying to give us a topic to discuss. You don't have to jump all over him.


I didn't really mean to rag on him - I've just seen this place come close to dissolving into garbage a few times in the past and I find it rather frustrating. I'd rather stop things if they were headed in that direction that let it get to the point where I don't want to participate anymore. My apologies for the slight over-reaction - his choice of words there just didn't sit well with me. :)

= = = = =

As for the original topic - I think if an F1 were damaged to the point that it couldn't be properly restored to life by McLaren Cars then that car should be given a proper burial just like XP1. ;)

Seriously though - as sad as it would be to lose an F1 I don't think it should be replaced. It's like those "classic" Cobras that Carroll Shelby was building a few years back using left over chassis' from the '60 - they weren't classics and they just weren't the same. The cars had no history other than their metal shells had sat in the corner of a storage warehouse for several decades. You might as well have bought one of the higher quality reproduction kits on the market and saved some money in my opinion.

Additionally, if an someone destroys an F1 (and it's their fault) they should have to live the rest of their lives thinking about what they have done, not pay a bit of money and get themselves a new one. Roman Scherer and Bernd Piechstrieder (both BMW employees) are the two I'm familiar with that lived to talk about it, but neither were actual F1 owners. I also believe that if negligence is involved that all efforts for them to purchase another F1 should be squashed so they don't repeat the occurrence. Of course many of the owners could truly afford to buy a half dozen of them if they chose to do so, so good luck enforcing that rule. :grinno:

>8^)
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jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 09:03 PM
Kinda of off topic but about the Lm's I read in 1 of the osts that the sultan of Brunei has 3 of the 5 lm's. I personally think the the lm's should be limited to 1 per owner. I mean 3/5 thats just not right.:nono:

Peleton25 ~ I've just seen this place come close to dissolving into garbage a few times in the past and I find it rather frustrating. I'd rather stop things if they were headed in that direction that let it get to the point where I don't want to participate anymore.

Don't worry it won't get to the point of SC.net forums thats for sure.

Peloton25
05-19-2004, 09:23 PM
I'm not certain that McLaren had any other buyers lined up for the LMs at the time so when you have someone who wants 3, why not sell them 3. The F1 GT is even more exclusive with only 3 produced, and McLaren Cars were only able to find two buyers for it. The 3rd car still at the factory with a last known pricetag of £1,000,000.

The F1 road car wasn't exactly that hot of a seller to begin with at it's £600,000 + price tag, so expecting people to pay even more for a car that was less friendly on the road was probably not an easy proposition. If McLaren were "Ferrari" I suspect they'd have had a better chance moving a million dollar car as they already have a large customer base of wealthy individuals just waiting to buy the next special car that comes off the line. Just look at that monstrosity the Maserati MC12 - they're building 50 of them with less power (-60hp I beleieve) than the Enzo and charging an additional $150,000 for them and you can guarantee that all will be sold. Crazy, just crazy... :screwy:

>8^)
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jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 09:33 PM
I donno I saw the mc12 and damn its actually very how should I say this... Fluent in design very smooth the body is very streamlined and very nice. But the lm still looks better.:iceslolan

mini magic
05-19-2004, 10:13 PM
btw, the S.A SLR crash was staged

Peloton25
05-19-2004, 10:28 PM
btw, the S.A SLR crash was staged

Of course it was... :screwy: :grinno: :uhoh:

>8^)
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jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 10:39 PM
Oh yeaa it was I knew that.... :)

Peloton25
05-19-2004, 10:51 PM
To who's benefit would it be to stage an accident like that? :confused:

Someone please prove me wrong here...

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 11:09 PM
yea I dont think the S.A post would do it for a cover story thats for sure.

Thorst13
05-20-2004, 09:08 AM
I donno I saw the mc12 and damn its actually very how should I say this... Fluent in design very smooth the body is very streamlined and very nice. But the lm still looks better.:iceslolan



UUUUHH :eek:

The Mc12 is one badass ugly supercar!
Lokks like a bad replica of a Porsche GT1 :2cents:

jcsaleen
05-20-2004, 10:35 AM
UUUUHH :eek:

The Mc12 is one badass ugly supercar!
Lokks like a bad replica of a Porsche GT1 :2cents:

well thats your opinion ask for me I like cars like that.

1.porsche gt1
2.Mclaren f1 gt long tail
3.Maserati mc12
4.Mercedes clk-gtr

Thorst13
05-20-2004, 11:30 AM
Yep, you're right about that!
It's only my opinion! :rolleyes:

I agree with the rest of your list though.

I think the longtail McLaren is beautiful! :iceslolan

jcsaleen
05-20-2004, 09:15 PM
Ive always had this fear though about long tail carz. That if I drove a long tail the end would be long enough that the back would kick out and I would spin and crash thats why I like the lm nice short tigh back nice and snug.:iceslolan

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