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Wuts better stick or atuo


MidwayAvenue
05-16-2004, 11:07 PM
alright, what saves you more gas, and what is better to drag race in, i guessing the stick maybe better in saving gas due to that u may keep the car in low rpms, and i'm guessing auto may be better in a drag due to consistant power to the wheels, but i'm not sure so give me what u know

gv78ta
05-18-2004, 06:54 PM
ok yes stick is better for gas mileage, given you know how to drive one and you know your clutch point really well so you aren't over revving on shifts and as far as the automatic being better for drag racing, put it this way some friends of mine run a 03 cobra mustang drag car and it has a racing automatic shift kit on it and it runs high 8's in the 1/4 and he has won the drag wars multiple times, so i would say that auto is better for drag racing.

cndctrdj
05-18-2004, 10:40 PM
you got it totally right i couldn't have said it better

69bird
05-20-2004, 09:19 PM
Could be more specific, difference between 4 spd, 5 spd and 6 spd. compared to what automatic? powerglide, turbo 350, 400, overdrive auto? My 69 firebird had a turbo 400, with no other changes I lost 2 miles per gal changing to a muncie 4 spd. As far as drag racing, it's not who's faster, it's who's the most consistnet. and auto's are more consistent. to me standards are more fun. .

cndctrdj
05-21-2004, 07:12 PM
he asked us a general question he got a general answere..... thats all

it also depends on how well built a tranny is, what gears and how many gears are in it. but you already know that.

matt11583
05-21-2004, 07:42 PM
you got it exactly right. its just comes down to what you want in your car.

dampachi
05-24-2004, 01:43 PM
um. automatic better for drag racing? in a street car. no. manuals are always faster than automatics. take the same exact car in the same exact conditions with a driver of the same exact skill and the manual will beat the automatic. and consistency comes with a good driver. sure anyone can get in an automatic and mash the accelerator. but wheres the fun in that? i guess it's really a preference...but go down to your local drag strip and ask some racers what they prefer. depending on the classes you'll get varying opinions but i'm sure the racers in street cars will say manual. oh and the gas question. manuals tend to do a little better but they'll do just as good depending on how far you push down the gas pedal. if you're easy on the gas pedal, your car will be easier on the gas.

CarSuperfreak
05-24-2004, 01:48 PM
The way technology is going; It is to the point where (some) auto's are faster than a stick. A computer will/can shift at the same rpm, at the same time, every time. And a computer can switch gears faster than you can mash the clutch and tap the shifter.

I think manuals are more as well, but I'm just saying, especially with modern technology, you will be more consistent, and arguably just as fast or faster with an auto

dampachi
05-24-2004, 02:00 PM
although an automatic shifts dead on. it's not shifting with performance in mind. not to mention you always lose power with an automatic.

dampachi
05-24-2004, 02:02 PM
oh. and consistency. yes. you will be more consistent. but consistently slower than a manual.

CarSuperfreak
05-24-2004, 02:08 PM
traditionally yes, but like i said, as newer models come out, they are getting closer and closer.....

cndctrdj
05-24-2004, 07:35 PM
stock for stock yes the stick is usually faster but once you start to modify them the auto is usaully easier and cheaper to make go more quickly and more consistantly

FormulaForce
05-25-2004, 11:56 AM
I like sticks for many reasons: (1)Usually cheaper & easier to repair (2) less drivetrain power loss (3) better mileage (4) can put in lower rear-axle gears (5) more fun!

violator6090
05-25-2004, 02:33 PM
1/4 mile automatic with a shift kit will always be faster than stick....its been proven many many times. yes stick is more fun, better gas mileage etc...

73 formulabird 400
05-26-2004, 09:56 AM
I like sticks for many reasons: (1)Usually cheaper & easier to repair (2) less drivetrain power loss (3) better mileage (4) can put in lower rear-axle gears (5) more fun!

Formulaforce, are you saying you can't put lower gears on an automatic? Because I have a turbo 350 and was planning on getting a 700R with a gear reduction.

violator6090
05-26-2004, 12:06 PM
true, i saw that but failed to mention anything. I have an automatic and put in a lower gear recently.

cndctrdj
05-26-2004, 08:08 PM
Formulaforce, are you saying you can't put lower gears on an automatic? Because I have a turbo 350 and was planning on getting a 700R with a gear reduction.


tell me if im wrong but the th350 has 3 gears and the 700r4 has 4 gears.... so you are gonna add a gear and put a taller rear end in your car..... are you going for gas milage?

73 formulabird 400
05-27-2004, 09:20 AM
tell me if im wrong but the th350 has 3 gears and the 700r4 has 4 gears.... so you are gonna add a gear and put a taller rear end in your car..... are you going for gas milage?
Acctually, no, and yes. I'm planning to put in a lower gear so I'll have better take off and adding another gear to make up for it on the highway.

violator6090
05-27-2004, 11:16 AM
for better take off?...wouldn't that mean a higher gear ratio?

dain411
05-27-2004, 01:57 PM
Also remember, if you plan to put over 400 hp to the ground, very few stock automatics will handle that power with-out a couple thousand invested...TH400 slip if the power is sufficent...

The tremec (T-56 6-speed manual) are put into 500 hp viper and 400+ power Z06 vette...so obivously, this would be a better trans for an affordable street car project...

FormulaForce
05-28-2004, 09:17 AM
What I meant was you can go with a lower gear with a stick because you have more gears to play with. Sure an automatic car with 3 or 4 gears can have a lower (higher ratio) axle gear installed, but a five or six-speed car can go lower. I would not go lower than a 3.73 for an auto because it would wind-out on the highway, where as my six-speed has a 4.10:1 ratio and is quite driveable (2100 rpm at 80mph in 6th).

73 formulabird 400
05-28-2004, 12:57 PM
for better take off?...wouldn't that mean a higher gear ratio?
Yeah, that's what I meant.

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