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Tamiya TL01 hop ups


lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 11:35 AM
Hey all....

I own a Tamiya TL01 subaru Impreza 2001 model. It is basically stock (bought it as a kit....)

Only thing I added was an Eco27 and new set of wheels (carlson).

I really want to go a bit faster so I was wondering wether a tamiya RS540 was a good hop up and wether a Super Stock Motor Type-R (23 Turn) 27000 RPM would be much better for £20.

I would need to buy an Mtrornik 12T ESC at £22.

Would a Ball racing set be usefull ? Would it reck my engine and parts if I didnt use one ? And what does a stabiliser set do ?

My other question is Would a TL01 Speed-Tuned Gear Set be good ?

does it change the number of teeth compared to the normal gears ?
and does a lightweigt chassis make a good improvement in performance ?

thanks.

Howielong
05-16-2004, 11:57 AM
The RS540 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGE34&P=0) motor has 21,000 RPM and the other one you said has 27,000. While my opion i would go for the RS540. But the ESC is a good pick. Nice and cheap and can handle down to 12T if you want to go down that far. And the bearings are a great pick. They make you car go quicker. The Sway bars help to keep the car leval if you are racing. Then you asked about the gears. Well you can change the grear ratio if you have to. I can't rember if up is more speed. (more teeth. And down is in more accelation. (less teeth.)

lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 12:05 PM
thanks....
I just saw a Trinity Monster Horsepower Stock Motor 27t-24 degree for £21 and that woudl be good because I could keep my ESC. (eco27 dirt cheap...:))
But i dont know how it would perform compared tothe RS540.... it is also 21,000 rpm.

Howielong
05-16-2004, 12:18 PM
The monster horsepower stock motor is great. We drifters us it. Great amout of torque. Im thinking of picking one up when i get a chance.

lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 12:20 PM
So it is better than the RS540 by tamiya ?
Do oil shocks help with handling much ? because they are £13 a pair....
Can someone explain all these oils for shocks 20WT and 30WT goes up to 60WT....

Howielong
05-16-2004, 12:23 PM
Yes im my opion it would be better. The oil shock do help the car handle better. The friction. (ones on your car now) are slow and don't help you much. But once you get the oil shocks the car would handle alot better.

lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 12:24 PM
Can someone explain all these oils for shocks 20WT and 30WT goes up to 60WT....

Howielong
05-16-2004, 12:29 PM
well the lower the number. Say like 20WT is the lighest and thinest. While the 60WT is the heavest and thickest. Lighter oil is used in off road cars and trucks to soak up the bumps of the track while the heaver oil is used in on-road cars. So your Tamiya would use any were between 45WT to 60WT. Depends on the set up you are looking for.

lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 12:32 PM
I am bit confused about motors.... The trinity Monster Horsepower Stock Motor 27t-24 degree is the same price (bit cheaper) and RPM as
the 19T chameleon motor from trinity but doesnt more Turns mean less battery time ?

what about this motor :
Trinity Monsters of Touring Electric Motor (MOT215)
so which one would perform best on my car ?

Howielong
05-16-2004, 12:34 PM
More turns means more battery life. While this means more torque. Lesser number of turns. I.E. a 10T makes less toqure but more power. A more turn motor is easier to controll.

lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 12:35 PM
but which is faster ?

Howielong
05-16-2004, 12:37 PM
Short and easy answer. Any motor that has fewer turns is going to be quicker. Just make sure you gear the car right.

lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 12:38 PM
What about the motors that are like 19T double and 17T triple ?

and I thought RPM where the speed so the Trinity Monster Horsepower Stock Motor 27t-24 degree is a 21,000 which is the same as the 19T trinity motor.

So which one is faster the 19T ?
http://www.teamtrinity.com/motors/motorspecs.asp
here it says that the 19T Chameleon 2 Pro has more power. This means power as in pure power and force ? But I dont need much of that in my TL01 ?

Howielong
05-16-2004, 12:42 PM
The duble and triple mean the number of winds the motor has. I can't rember what it fully means.

lordmozilla
05-16-2004, 12:47 PM
If the RPM's of a motor are the same. THen they go at the same speed ? right ? and then you ahve the power but that only matters for offroad or pullign stuff.... What difference will that make in a TLo1 ?

Howielong
05-16-2004, 12:51 PM
Ummm, somewhat. There is a lot of factors with elec motors. If you want to go fast look for motors with lower turns.

lordmozilla
05-19-2004, 04:41 PM
How would a Dyna Run racing stock motor do compared to the RS540 ? how many turns is it would i need an ESC upgrade ? (my esc is an eco 27...)

Is the lightweight TL01 chassis any good ?
And what kinda tyres should i use for burning around in ? (my TL01 is 2wd (rear) cause it is much faster that way....)
and it is more fun because of it !

Are tyre inserts good and which should i use ?

Howielong
05-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Do you have a link to the motor. I havn't heard of one. And maybe a link to your esc too.

lordmozilla
05-19-2004, 04:49 PM
http://www.rccarsandtrucks.co.uk/526_1_22353.html
for the esc and the motor :
http://www.rc-car-warehouse.com/products/217/

read my post above I edited it what do you think of the lightweight chassis and the tyre inserts ?##

what do you think of the mtroniks motors ?
http://www.rc-car-warehouse.com/m_categorylist.asp?rid=143&mid=17&cid=9

Howielong
05-19-2004, 05:00 PM
Hmmm the esc that you have now looks like it can only handle 27T motors. There is no info on turns of any of those motors. Now the lighter frame would let you get more speed out of your car. Tires that is a hard question. It depends on were you running.

lordmozilla
05-19-2004, 05:01 PM
I am runnign on like tarmac. and some pavement.

Howielong
05-19-2004, 05:03 PM
Is it clean. Like no small rocks or dirt. If not you can look into foam tires for some speed and hook up. If it is a dirty surface look at www.pro-lineracing.com and at there tires. You would then need rubber tires and new wheels. I heard they are great.

lordmozilla
05-19-2004, 05:05 PM
no it is not perfect... has a few rocks and stuff not many but a few...

ANd should i bother with a modified motor ? What do I have to do compared to a stock motor to keep it nice and working ?

Howielong
05-19-2004, 05:08 PM
If the surface has small but hardly no rocks or dirt then look into foams. A mod motor would get you more speed but then you would have to get a new esc to handle the new motor. If you mean by cleaning just a few drops of comm drop and getting the comm cut and new burshes is all that is needed. But i do that even to stock motors.

lordmozilla
05-19-2004, 05:09 PM
ah ok... And I plan on changing the esc anyways I have found a £22 clearance one goes down to 12Turns...
How often do you need new brushes ?

Can you give me a site showing me what foams are ? I dont understand....

Howielong
05-19-2004, 05:11 PM
You need to change the brushes every so often when they get blacked or really short. I think one good link is www.jaco.com for foams. If the esc can handle down to 12T then look for a nice 12T motor. Alot of speed.

Howielong
05-19-2004, 05:13 PM
Wait that link doesn't work i'll get you the link in a min.

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