Barcelona GP 2004
crayzayjay
05-08-2004, 08:09 AM
First qualifying times from Barcelona
1. Montoya---------Williams------1m15.574s
2. Fisichella---------Sauber------1m15.746s
3. Massa-----------Sauber-------1m15.771s
4. R.Schumacher----Williams------1m16.040s
5. Trulli-------------Renault-------1m16.156s
6. Panis-------------Toyota-------1m16.168s
7. Webber----------Jaguar--------1m16.212s
8. Raikkonen--------McLaren------1m16.240s
9. M.Schumacher----Ferrari-------1m16.320s
10. Sato------------BAR----------1m16.434s
11. Button----------BAR----------1m16.462s
12. Coulthard--------McLaren-----1m16.465s
13. Barrichello-------Ferrari-------1m16.655s
14. da Matta--------Toyota-------1m16.758s
15. Alonso-----------Renault------1m17.011s
16. Heidfeld----------Jordan-------1m17.043s
17. Klien-------------Jaguar-------1m17.863s
18. Pantano----------Jordan-------1m17.965s
19. Bruni-------------Minardi-------1m20.372s
20. Baumgartner------Minardi-------1m21.620s
Did anyone watch the first quali session? What the hell happened? :confused:
1. Montoya---------Williams------1m15.574s
2. Fisichella---------Sauber------1m15.746s
3. Massa-----------Sauber-------1m15.771s
4. R.Schumacher----Williams------1m16.040s
5. Trulli-------------Renault-------1m16.156s
6. Panis-------------Toyota-------1m16.168s
7. Webber----------Jaguar--------1m16.212s
8. Raikkonen--------McLaren------1m16.240s
9. M.Schumacher----Ferrari-------1m16.320s
10. Sato------------BAR----------1m16.434s
11. Button----------BAR----------1m16.462s
12. Coulthard--------McLaren-----1m16.465s
13. Barrichello-------Ferrari-------1m16.655s
14. da Matta--------Toyota-------1m16.758s
15. Alonso-----------Renault------1m17.011s
16. Heidfeld----------Jordan-------1m17.043s
17. Klien-------------Jaguar-------1m17.863s
18. Pantano----------Jordan-------1m17.965s
19. Bruni-------------Minardi-------1m20.372s
20. Baumgartner------Minardi-------1m21.620s
Did anyone watch the first quali session? What the hell happened? :confused:
RallyRaider
05-08-2004, 08:22 AM
Sauber and Ferrari got their cars mixed up in the paintshop? :confused:
crayzayjay
05-08-2004, 08:37 AM
:lol2:
Normal order has resumed
Normal order has resumed
ales
05-08-2004, 12:31 PM
I watched the first session and nothing out of the ordinary happened. Apparently it's the case of the track getting faster as the session was progressing as well as some drivers not bothering going 100 % and/or having more fuel on board. Montoya was trying very hard though in both sessions, and Rubens ... I don't know what to say. Here is the order the drivers will start the race in:
Pos Driver Team T Time Gap
1 M Schumacher Ferrari B 1:15.022 137.963 mph
2 Montoya WilliamsF1 M 1:15.639 0.617
3 Sato BAR M 1:15.809 0.787
4 Trulli Renault M 1:16.144 1.122
5 Barrichello Ferrari B 1:16.272 1.250
6 R Schumacher WilliamsF1 M 1:16.293 1.271
7 Panis Toyota M 1:16.313 1.291
8 Alonso Renault M 1:16.422 1.400
9 Webber Jaguar M 1:16.514 1.492
10 Coulthard McLaren M 1:16.636 1.614
11 da Matta Toyota M 1:17.038 2.016
12 Fisichella Sauber B 1:17.444 2.422
13 Raikkonen McLaren M 1:17.445 2.423
14 Button BAR M 1:17.575 2.553
15 Heidfeld Jordan B 1:17.802 2.780
16 Klien Jaguar M 1:17.812 2.790
17 Massa Sauber B 1:17.866 2.844
18 Bruni Minardi B 1:19.817 4.795
19 Pantano Jordan B 1:20.607 5.585
20 Baumgartner Minardi B 1:21.470 6.448
Pos Driver Team T Time Gap
1 M Schumacher Ferrari B 1:15.022 137.963 mph
2 Montoya WilliamsF1 M 1:15.639 0.617
3 Sato BAR M 1:15.809 0.787
4 Trulli Renault M 1:16.144 1.122
5 Barrichello Ferrari B 1:16.272 1.250
6 R Schumacher WilliamsF1 M 1:16.293 1.271
7 Panis Toyota M 1:16.313 1.291
8 Alonso Renault M 1:16.422 1.400
9 Webber Jaguar M 1:16.514 1.492
10 Coulthard McLaren M 1:16.636 1.614
11 da Matta Toyota M 1:17.038 2.016
12 Fisichella Sauber B 1:17.444 2.422
13 Raikkonen McLaren M 1:17.445 2.423
14 Button BAR M 1:17.575 2.553
15 Heidfeld Jordan B 1:17.802 2.780
16 Klien Jaguar M 1:17.812 2.790
17 Massa Sauber B 1:17.866 2.844
18 Bruni Minardi B 1:19.817 4.795
19 Pantano Jordan B 1:20.607 5.585
20 Baumgartner Minardi B 1:21.470 6.448
Layla's Keeper
05-08-2004, 03:30 PM
The top of the grid is pretty much par for the course this year, though Sato instead of Button is a bit unusual.
But let's hear it for Panis! Toyota could really use a stout run, and him starting in 7th is a fairly good beginning.
And the official word from SpeedTV is that it was a "wind gust" that got Button off into the grass on his qualifying attempt.
But let's hear it for Panis! Toyota could really use a stout run, and him starting in 7th is a fairly good beginning.
And the official word from SpeedTV is that it was a "wind gust" that got Button off into the grass on his qualifying attempt.
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:02 AM
Ah, I hate those loons!
ales
05-09-2004, 08:05 AM
You mean the idiot running on the track or Trulli? ;)
Amazing start from Jarno, normal for Takuma and MS and very bad for JPM.
Amazing start from Jarno, normal for Takuma and MS and very bad for JPM.
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:13 AM
Apparently Alonso doesn't know how to set up a car.
Trulli will be toast soon.
I just can't figure how Kimi went around a Williams, unless he running ultra light.
Trulli will be toast soon.
I just can't figure how Kimi went around a Williams, unless he running ultra light.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:17 AM
Check!
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:17 AM
Toldya!
ales
05-09-2004, 08:19 AM
Can Rubens come out in front of JOM and/or Sato? He's just done two amazing laps in a row.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:20 AM
I think he can, his last lap was 2.5 sec. quicker than JPM's
ales
05-09-2004, 08:23 AM
OMG! Rubens has to be on a 2-stopper!
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:23 AM
Button in 14th? WTF?
ales
05-09-2004, 08:27 AM
Rubens pits and Rejoins in 3rd, and apparently with 1 less stop to make than everyone but the Saubers.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:30 AM
What we haven't seen is Alonso getting by JPM at the pitstops (I presume)
ales
05-09-2004, 08:35 AM
Trulli pits for the second time ... Very very early. Eithe they are 4-stopping or they put really little fuel at the first stop in an attempt to keep Schumi behind.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:37 AM
Schumi also pits and manages, just, to keep the lead in front of Rubens.
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:39 AM
Schumi is already at his cruising point, no pressure.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:42 AM
Button comes out in front of DC. Let's see what he can do in clean(er) air.
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:44 AM
Is Jag in the race?
ales
05-09-2004, 08:45 AM
Button is now also in front of Kimi with the two Macs together behind him. Now Button is up to 10th after getting by Klien. Massa is next on his list.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:47 AM
I've seen Klien several times (when he was passed and when he made a mistake early in the race). Yet to see Webber, so there's a Jag in the race, and that's all I can say for sure ;)
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:47 AM
Hints of Schumi's engine having a problem!
crayzayjay
05-09-2004, 08:48 AM
Either an engine problem or a cracked exhaust
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:48 AM
Could be broken exhaust.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:49 AM
Pantano and Heitfeld out with engine troubles.
ales
05-09-2004, 08:51 AM
Half a race still to go... :(
crayzayjay
05-09-2004, 08:52 AM
Ferrari think it's a cracked exhaust and are "controlling the situation", whatever that means
ales
05-09-2004, 08:53 AM
Where did you all hear that?
crayzayjay
05-09-2004, 08:57 AM
ITV's man on the pitlane talked to Ferrari
ales
05-09-2004, 08:59 AM
OK, thanks! But what are the sympoms and dangers?
Veyron
05-09-2004, 08:59 AM
Yep, and you can hear it!
Veyron
05-09-2004, 09:02 AM
RB got screwed in the pits!
ales
05-09-2004, 09:03 AM
Yep, and you can hear it!
I can't :dunno:
I can't :dunno:
ales
05-09-2004, 09:04 AM
RB got screwed in the pits!
Noticed the slow work on the front tyre too, but the tyre was on before refuelling finished, his getaway wasn't brilliant though.
Noticed the slow work on the front tyre too, but the tyre was on before refuelling finished, his getaway wasn't brilliant though.
Veyron
05-09-2004, 09:06 AM
No Mcboomers in the points right now...
crayzayjay
05-09-2004, 09:06 AM
OK, thanks! But what are the sympoms and dangers?
Remember Monaco 2001? Michael's rear suspension failed due to heat build-up resultant from the cracked exhaust.
Remember Monaco 2001? Michael's rear suspension failed due to heat build-up resultant from the cracked exhaust.
ales
05-09-2004, 09:06 AM
Both Kimi and Montoya (the latter coming in for the 4th time) have prblems in the pits. Day over for JPM. Bye.
crayzayjay
05-09-2004, 09:10 AM
Brake failure for JPM. Weird
Veyron
05-09-2004, 09:11 AM
If they hooked the brakes up to his mouth they would never fade!
ales
05-09-2004, 09:12 AM
I just saw a glimpse of Webber's car (it has to be since Klien is out)!!!
Veyron
05-09-2004, 09:33 AM
Another job well done for Ferrari.
No real challengers yet.
No real challengers yet.
ales
05-09-2004, 09:34 AM
:sunglasse
Win number 75 for Schumacher on his 200th outing in a Grand Prix, his record-equalling 5th in a row this season, his 4th in a row at Barcelona. Rubens second (I'm sorry, Rubens, I was too quick to judge), then both Renaults with Trulli in front of his teammate, then Sato, Ralf, Fisico and Button taking the last point. Mass 9th, then DC and Kimi, and the invisible Webber and Da Matta are the last ones to see the chequered flag.
Win number 75 for Schumacher on his 200th outing in a Grand Prix, his record-equalling 5th in a row this season, his 4th in a row at Barcelona. Rubens second (I'm sorry, Rubens, I was too quick to judge), then both Renaults with Trulli in front of his teammate, then Sato, Ralf, Fisico and Button taking the last point. Mass 9th, then DC and Kimi, and the invisible Webber and Da Matta are the last ones to see the chequered flag.
Layla's Keeper
05-09-2004, 05:52 PM
To be honest, for a little bit I was pulling for Trulli.
Wouldn't that be a kick in the face of Montoya and Raikkonen if Jarno Trulli was the man to end the Ferrari win streak?
Wouldn't that be a kick in the face of Montoya and Raikkonen if Jarno Trulli was the man to end the Ferrari win streak?
RallyRaider
05-09-2004, 09:27 PM
Deliberately didn't watch this weekend in the hope that I'd miss something interesting. Didn't work :dunno:
freakray
05-10-2004, 09:32 AM
RB got screwed in the pits!
Wouldn't be the first.....got to make sure he doesn't 'accidentally' win a race before MS secures the championship.
Wouldn't be the first.....got to make sure he doesn't 'accidentally' win a race before MS secures the championship.
Veyron
05-10-2004, 09:34 AM
Wouldn't be the first.....got to make sure he doesn't 'accidentally' win a race before MS secures the championship.
:lol: Prolly
:lol: Prolly
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