good deal or what!?!

well, went to my local wreckers today to get some interior pieces, notice they finally got the hood to open on this blue hatchback that i've been gettin parts from, i walk up and pop the hood and what do i see? a DOHC ZC!!! i asked the guy how much he wanted for the motor,tranny and axles, he told me $500 cnd!!! that includes labour costs for him to take it out too!!!! talked it over with my parents and they said if he'll take installments on it then its all mine, so i'm pretty sure i can talk him into it! so it appears i'm going DOHC soon!!! :D:D:D i'm so stoked :D

the motors gonna sit in my garage for awhile prolly cuz i wanna build it up and i wanna get a price from the machine shop on a P&P and 3 angle valve job, should be really wild :D so hopefully by July i'll have a motor up and running in the civic :D this is the BEST day of my life :D:D:D

also, do i really need the axels? would mine work?? and how can u tell if its an LSD ZC tranny?? and i know it is a true ZC because i scraped off the gunk on the motor with my key and it says "ZC" so as soon as this babys in my possession i'll get pics up asap!!!! :D:D:D might not be for a couple weeks tho

i am almost positive your axles will work. not sure how to tell whether it is lsd or not

ok and also, is this correct for all the parts??

Timing Belt 88 Honda Prelude
Distributor cap 88 Acura Interga
Rotor 88 Acura Integra
Head Gasket 88 Honda Prelude
Intake Gasket 88 Acura Integra
Exhaust Gasket 88 Acura Integra
Water Pump 90 Honda CRX
Oil Filter 88 Acura Integra
ZC Clutch disk use: 89 Honda Civic DX
ZC Pressure plate use: 89 Honda Civic DX
Oil pan gasket: Same as 88-91 CRX/CIVIC or 86-89 Integra


anything else i need to know? like what rad hoses, what thermostat etc...
also, can i use my stock exhaust manifold? this one comes with one but its been burned off at the end so there is no flange on there...

any help would be awesome!

oh wow sounds like a good ass deal! have fun with it.

u lucky(500 = 375 us right?)

...this link can probably help u...

http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/zcinfo.html

also, do i really need the axels? would mine work?? and how can u tell if its an LSD ZC tranny?? the sohc axels are smaller than what are found in the dohc zc tranny. there basically teg axles. as far as lsd....look into the tranny where the axle goes(both axles out) if you can see right through its non lsd, if you cant see through you may be in luck.

the sohc axels are smaller than what are found in the dohc zc tranny. there basically teg axles. as far as lsd....look into the tranny where the axle goes(both axles out) if you can see right through its non lsd, if you cant see through you may be in luck.


awesome!

well i'm gonna call the yard today if i get time and tell them to pull it whenever they feel like it, i want them to run a compression test on it first tho so i know the rings arent blown

If your doing a rebuild why does it matter if the rings are fried?

If your doing a rebuild why does it matter if the rings are fried?


well if the rings are fine then i dont think i'm gonna touch the bottom end because i dont know what alot of the parts come off of and also i dont feel like messing around down there if its already fine

well a bottom end rebuild isn't hard at all, just follow the directions of a manual basically. and get the axles, ZC axles are equal length

well a bottom end rebuild isn't hard at all, just follow the directions of a manual basically. and get the axles, ZC axles are equal length


alright awesome, i gotta go up tuesday and talk 2 the guy and let him know what all i need exactly

freakin lucky...wish something like that would happen to me

great find!!

nice find with the ZC! i never find anything good at the junkies..

also, what else will i need??? will i need the accelerator cable, clutch cable? etc....

i got a PM6 ECU, which should work correct? also will the axels i'm getting work with my hubs? will the shit linkage and everything be fine too? if someone could give me a list of extra things i need, that would be awesome!

Thanx,

oh yea, hopefully i'm going to the wreckers tommorow to put a deposit on the motor and there gonna start pulling it out for me and i get it when i give them the other 250, this is gonna be so awesome!!!!!!

hey thats one good deal there mate, well done,

i MIGHT be able to get you some parts cheaper tha they are over in the US if u dont mind used ones, there are always D16A9's breaking which is the ZC

glad you got what you wanted, oh and on another good note, i have found a JDM SiR breaking, im having the rear speaker pods, mid wing, and rear spoiler off it YIPEEEEE already in white too !!

cheers

Jim

hey thats one good deal there mate, well done,

i MIGHT be able to get you some parts cheaper tha they are over in the US if u dont mind used ones, there are always D16A9's breaking which is the ZC

glad you got what you wanted, oh and on another good note, i have found a JDM SiR breaking, im having the rear speaker pods, mid wing, and rear spoiler off it YIPEEEEE already in white too !!

cheers

Jim


awesome. the only thing is i live in canada and shipping would probably be alot of money.

if u can find me a MINT DOHC ZC Hood where i only pay shipping and shippings only like 20 bucks canadian lemme know ;) hehehe

good score with ur stuff too man but lemme know if u find parts for dirt cheap that work very well and dont have many miles on them k? thanx man

ok mate will do , no problem

well i knew it was WAY 2 good 2 be true, went and took a closer look at it and discovered a nice hole in the block! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: i'm not a happy camper right now
if theres anyone in ontario that know of a DOHC ZC for a good price thats INTACT and has NO HOLES in the block please let me know!!!! just PM me, i'm still pissed tho!

I just want to clarify a few points that were brought up in this thread.

1. how to identify a LSD from Non LSD transmission. if you look thru the transmission with the axels out and you see a bar in the middle, no LSD. If you can see staight thru... this is a straight path to LSD goodness.

2. Distributor cap is the same as any civic 88-91 PM5 or PM6

3. the ZC transmission is not always used in a ZC swap, alot of people ( including myself) used a stock SI transmission because of it's higher gearing. the ZC has short gears that can be akward to drive in the highway and with the axel headache it's just simple to use the SI one.

also I would still buy that motor. if you can get it for 100-200$ with the distributor and intake your making off like a bandit.

this way you can get the head worked on while you find a bottom end... having a spare Distributor is always nice on a motor that was never available in north america. and you can get the intake polished and port matched as well.

kun

I just want to clarify a few points that were brought up in this thread.

1. how to identify a LSD from Non LSD transmission. if you look thru the transmission with the axels out and you see a bar in the middle, no LSD. If you can see staight thru... this is a straight path to LSD goodness.

2. Distributor cap is the same as any civic 88-91 PM5 or PM6

3. the ZC transmission is not always used in a ZC swap, alot of people ( including myself) used a stock SI transmission because of it's higher gearing. the ZC has short gears that can be akward to drive in the highway and with the axel headache it's just simple to use the SI one.

also I would still buy that motor. if you can get it for 100-200$ with the distributor and intake your making off like a bandit.

this way you can get the head worked on while you find a bottom end... having a spare Distributor is always nice on a motor that was never available in north america. and you can get the intake polished and port matched as well.

kun


sounds like a good Idea Kun, i'll go back and find out what they want for the top end sometime

try not to just buy the top end ( there may still be good parts in the bottom end) Crank, pistons (sell to SOHC guy for 50$) oil pump... so on.

also if you go back looking for just the head they will pull it off and may ask for more money once they see it's still good.

just act no challant... be like... ok there is a hole in the block... i may be able to salvage parts off of it. give ya 100$ for the motor as is.

if they try to haggle with ya just keep telling them you don't know what condition the parts are in and you may be taking a 100$ paperweight off their hands.

at the very least you can part that bad boy for 200$ easy.

50$ for ZC dome pistons ( asuming they are still good)
50-100$ for stock ZC cams (good for a core to regrind)
100-150$ for a ZC distributor

so on.

also see if it has the stock ZC 4-2-1 cast manifold... this would be a good replacement for your stock 4-1 manifold.

make sure you be discreet when you look over the motor not to look too interested in it. if you do they will hold out for more money.

if you have to hold out one or two c-notes and tell em "this is all I have" or "you don't even need to put this in the books"

in those famous words... make them an offer they can't refuse.

good luck man

Kun

Cool!!!

damn that sucks phact. Just keep looking and you'll eventually find a bottom end. Buy the engine though!

try not to just buy the top end ( there may still be good parts in the bottom end) Crank, pistons (sell to SOHC guy for 50$) oil pump... so on.

also if you go back looking for just the head they will pull it off and may ask for more money once they see it's still good.

just act no challant... be like... ok there is a hole in the block... i may be able to salvage parts off of it. give ya 100$ for the motor as is.

if they try to haggle with ya just keep telling them you don't know what condition the parts are in and you may be taking a 100$ paperweight off their hands.

at the very least you can part that bad boy for 200$ easy.

50$ for ZC dome pistons ( asuming they are still good)
50-100$ for stock ZC cams (good for a core to regrind)
100-150$ for a ZC distributor

so on.

also see if it has the stock ZC 4-2-1 cast manifold... this would be a good replacement for your stock 4-1 manifold.

make sure you be discreet when you look over the motor not to look too interested in it. if you do they will hold out for more money.

if you have to hold out one or two c-notes and tell em "this is all I have" or "you don't even need to put this in the books"

in those famous words... make them an offer they can't refuse.

good luck man

Kun


alright, awesome, well, i know the one rods chewed cuz its sticking out the block, but i may try to get the head, i know the ppl up there too, they'll cut me a good deal, and yea it has the 4-2-1 header on it, i didnt know if it would work or not tho but if u say it does then i'm gonna snatch that as well, i might be able 2 get the head, intake and exhaust for a decent price considering he told me motor, tranny and axels for 500 including the labour, so if i do it myself, maybe 100 bucks or so, he wants 50 for the distributor tho.

yeah it will fit. check out my cardomain page I was using a 4-2-1 header on my D16a6 before I got my ZC and kept it on my ZC.

I sold my Stock 4-2-1 ZC manifold for 50 though.

Kun

...back to this axle thing, stock axles wont work on the zc tranny.. you'll need the axles.

the zc tranny uses equal length axles plus an intermediate shaft... stock uses one long and one short axles...

kick ass man, kick ass!

will the flywheel work on my car? cuz if thats in good condition then i'll snag that as well and get it machined and toss it on the d15b2 cuz my clutch is chattering against the flywheel badly, and maybe the ZC will have a nice sport clutch in it if i'm lucky :)

yeah it will fit. check out my cardomain page I was using a 4-2-1 header on my D16a6 before I got my ZC and kept it on my ZC.

I sold my Stock 4-2-1 ZC manifold for 50 though.

Kun


is this the stock ZC 4-2-1 ur talking about?
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/268000-268999/268754_19_full.jpg
cuz the one i saw at the junkyard is all one piece

is this the stock ZC 4-2-1 ur talking about?
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/268000-268999/268754_19_full.jpg
cuz the one i saw at the junkyard is all one piece


that is NOT the stock zc 4-2-1.... think of how crappy your stock mani looks.. then imagine it in a 4-2-1 style...haha... all rusty and cast...

that is NOT the stock zc 4-2-1.... think of how crappy your stock mani looks.. then imagine it in a 4-2-1 style...haha... all rusty and cast...


ahh gotcha
so thats the style tho and i'm guessing the one i saw is the tru ZC mani