Thermal cat-back, is it loud?

Is the Thermal cat-back system loud? I keep hearing conflicting answers. I've searched all over including this site. I'm looking for more of a quiet exhaust system and have heard the Apexi N1 is quiet. Then again I've heard the Apexi N1 is a loud exhaust... Trying to be getting to as close as stock as possible.

if you are looking for a quieter exhaust go to a custom shop and ask them

any performance = loud

Thermal is quieter than the N1
my Apexi Dunk catback is actually the quietest catback I've heard, slightly louder than stock, I guess the Huge muffler have something to do with that.

then again, when u get a downpipe and remove the cat, its wont be as quiet anymore