mixing gears..

hello all, i was wondering if its possible?? let say to mix a 3.42 pinion gear with a 4.10 ring gear, would this work?

i would think no. i cant honestly think of a technical reason why they wouldnt work cause i dont know much bout gears, but my intuition says no. seems like the way gears work it wouldnt be possible...

yea i dunno either... it just popped in my head

i would think that the pinion angle would be different or there would be a problem with the difference in the number of teeth...

it can be done, but i have no clue of what combinations you would use. my friend's camaro came with 2:73's and someone messed around in there before he got it. when i counted the teeth i came up with some goofy shit number.

yea, i have 3.42 ratio right now, and im gettin a set of gm 4.10s for 50 bucks, (used) and i was thinkin bout just puttin the 4.10 ring on my diff, i was thinkin that would give me like a 3.73 ratio or close

i would have to say its probably not gunna work. but honetly i could be wrong. there are just to many variables to be sure, unless you try it :naughty: . but if you look some gear ratios use the same gear in some cases. but who knows it the space between the teeth are changed or something. who knows. i guess it could be posible, but for a real answer you might call someone like Richmond and see what they say. and then try it. i know that would sure make swaping gears alot easier cuz then you dont have to mess the the pinon nut, crush sleve, and all that crap. 200ft.lbs. is alot and thats the one thing i hate the most is trying to get the crush sleave set correctly.

haha i hear ya, i dont feel like doin all that shit, but hey you gotta do whatyou gotta do, i would rather put in some 3.73s but they go for alot on ebay, im gettin my set of 4.10s around 50... soo

i jus dont wanna ruin the one ring and the one pinion and have to buy a whole new set... lol

i wouldnt do it, there is a number value that matches, if the distance from peak to peak on the pinion gear teeth is different than the distance from peak to peak on the ring gear teeth, than even if it matches up now, you run the risk of them actually crawling up over themselves at some point which would cause all kinds of shit in the ass end of the car, peices flying every which a way. i would not do it.

haha that would look cool!!!

i guess i forgot to mention that the ring and pinion in my friends camaro broke in the 2000 miles after he got it. when i changed the gears for him i noticed that there were a bunch of shims under the pinion. 2 of the ring gear teeth broke, which broke 3 of the pinion teeth, and then the teeth got into the spiders and completely shattered one of the side spiders. i would doubt that your 3:42's would work with 4:10's. i think the 4:10 probly has a much smaller pinion, and thicker ring gear than the 3:42's

damn, yea ive changed my train of thoughts about that little idea, ill just install the 4.10s

fun fun fun, but would those really be good 1/4 mile gears?

yea i think they be ok, i dont wanna top out b4 the finish,but i couldnt pass on those tho 50 bucks, i wanted to get some 3.73s but shit there goin for alot more, i wanna get back to where i was 13.4s i have a duplicate motor same heads etc, i jus have diff pistons, i think the 4.10s would drop me lower, maybe dip down into the 12s with this motor, but im drivin the car up there, anyone kno what rpm id be at, at around 60 mph?? i have a 700r4 with od

haha just won them, some f*ker tried to out bid me in the last 2 min, good thing i had another window ready,lol check em out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2476261075&category=33731&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWN%3AIT&rd=1

yo ridge, i hate to break it to you but the gears in the pic arnt 4.10's. that pinion is way to big. maybe he is just using that pic and you will get the corect ones, but that one in the pic is not for a 4.10. you could count the ring gear teath in the pic but i didnt cuz im too laze. im gunna PM you so hopefully you will have already made sure or i will catch you before you send him some $$.

hey man good lookin out, thanks,i didnt pay much attention to that, i will ask him about that and see what he says...

yeah i just went back and looked at his feedback and i dunno, he has had alot of god but also his share fare of bad. to me it seems like he would try to screw you out of it. cuz thats what all the bad is about, misrepresentation on his listings and not sending the items and stuff. just watch yourself.

it appears to have 41 teeth on the ring, i counted twice, i think i came up with 41 since the pinion is in the way, so the pinion is not for a 4.10 huh, well i jus emailed him and asked him if those were the 4.10s pictured, and if he says yes im gonna say that pinion looks kinda big..... and then see what he says

hey ridge_runner, check this out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20763&item=4300131752&rd=1

damn you geno!!!! i shoulda never mentioned the damn sledge hammer when i was takin out my diff!!!! lol

yeah the pinion in the pic is for sure not a 4.10, i can garante you that without a dout. it even says in his post that it has 10 teeth, and you can almost count that many showing. about half way down on the right side is a pic of a 3.08 and a 4.56 pinion. you can see the big difference. that 4.56 pinion has 9 teeth so the one that should be for a 4.10 should have one more tooth, and the one in the picture clearly is not that small.
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/49998/index3.html

i'm sorry, I couldn't help it.

lmfao. thats a good one geno.

here ya go geno...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1467&item=4165267265&rd=1

f-in sweet dude, thanx.

damn i can definatly see the difference, fuck that shit, hes got some explaining to do....

did you send him any $$ yet.

no, i was goin to pay with a money order, i jus won it tonite, theres atleast 11 or 12 teeth on that pinion

aww shit, ima have to buy that so i can listen to it when im using my sledge, lol, and i counted the little bumps on the pinion theres 13 or 14

i need to buy a strut tower brace

i need to buy alot shit....

that's all i need for my suspension, cept some springs. once all of it is in, the body work will be done, then it's the interior, then back to the motor.

ok, I just bought my strut tower bar. yay

ebay????

summit

oh tight, im gonna prolly end up gettin some exhaust for my truck from there, i jus put the mustang 5.0 chrome shorty headers i got for it on, (since i couldnt find any for a bronco) started it up and it sounded like a funny car!!! lol

werd, and on that note, i'm calling it a night. later.

ight later

he just retured my email and said...

"the gears you bought have 10 on the pinion and 41 on the ring and are for a 7.5 gm rear thanks pps"

sure you know how to count after all runner?????? ;)

lol, look at the pic!!! no way thats 10 on the pinion

uh huh sure there is *smiles and nods* ;) lol

lol. look damnit!!!!!

yeah i would tell him to take a picture of that one he is going to send you. and tell him to make it clearly visible and make it so you can count the number of teeth. oh and make sure you keep all emails that you send to that guy and that he sends you.

yea i am, thanks

yea i asked him for a pic, he replyed ..... gears arnt mint, no chips or anything...... i dunno if i should trust him or what, cause he could have just thrown in any ring with 41 teeth, the ring i have now has 41 teeth, fuck it i tihnk im gonna go for it.....

i dunno. i wouldnt cuz thats what all his bad feedback is like from him misrepresenting things. i would probably say if he doesnt give you a pic of the correct one that you shouldnt get them. but its up to you.

yea im kinda sketchy myself, im still debating........

and i was thinkin he could scam people, like give the wrong gears, but the buyers leave the feedback when it gets there sooo they cant say they were wrong or w.e else... im gonna find someone whos bought some 4.10s from them and try to email them

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33731&item=2472518377
now those look like 4.10s and they were being advertised as 3.08s
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33731&item=2472526761
im gonnna email the winner of this auction