Top of the line cars!!!

I would go for the DB9 on this one without hesitation...What do you think? :jump3:

For speed, handling, or styling? Porsche Turbo is amazing.
Interior- Probably the DB9
From the stats i've seen, the M6 will be very good, but not in the same class as the others.

Oh, you shouldn't have included the DB9, because once I saw Aston Martin, my mind completely blanked out the rest, so it was no contest, Aston Martin hands down. :)

it was a tough choice between the aston and the porsche. but i just personally like the porsche better. one thing bad about aston, they are starting to look all the same now.

it was a tough choice between the aston and the porsche. but i just personally like the porsche better. one thing bad about aston, they are starting to look all the same now.

I agree, but I'm certain that you cannot deny they all look stunningly beautiful...

Again, it's a difference of philosophy. Aston Martin believes in having signature body styling that can easily be recognized as being Aston Martin. If they all of a sudden made a car that looked completely different, no one would even know it was an Aston Martin unless they saw a badge.

Not to mention, they are not all the same, in fact, they are quite different. Perhaps to the untrained eye they look similar, but all the signature ques are there, but always implemented differently than the other models. Also, the front grill is shaped similar, but are almost always a different size, and positioned slightly different than the other models.

Also, there are many dimension differences, and there are differences in the stance of the cars. Even the position of the doors are different with respect to the rest of the car.

I guess it's true that they would look similar if you're not really into them and would recognize the difference, but for people who can afford them, and are interested in buying them, you can bet they can tell the difference, and I guess that is what really matters.

Of course you can tell the difference, but they're undoubtedly very similarly styled. I live in the UK and see a handful of Astons every day. The DB9 is certainly a looker, but i was fairly disappointed at how similar it looked to previous Astons, and in my mind it isnt better looking than the DB7.

I'd go for the turbo porsche 911 no doubt. Its got speed, style, sex appeal and best of all its a porsche not a merc or bmw which are common as hell here. The aston martin is a bit more exotic but I just don't like the way it looks. IMO the porsche is the best looker in the bunch.

what demon said brings something to my mind. porsche. if you don't know porsche that well, they will all look the same. because they do all have the same basic body shape and front-end and back-end. so i guess what i said in my first post about all aston's looking the same isn't a good argument because to the untrained eye, all (except carrera gt) porsches look the same. it happens.

I'll still have the DB9...German cars are that much colder than the classy British motors

Of course you can tell the difference, but they're undoubtedly very similarly styled. I live in the UK and see a handful of Astons every day. The DB9 is certainly a looker, but i was fairly disappointed at how similar it looked to previous Astons, and in my mind it isnt better looking than the DB7.

I would say that I like the proportions of the DB9 more than those of the DB7 since I find them more modern and a little more aggressive, even though it's not as aggressive-looking as the Vanquish is....

Freak, but it isn't really a bad thing, Porsches look similar because that design works, and people love it. Don't fix something that isn't broken.

911's look the same because its the same model evolving through time. Aston's whole range looks similar. (yes, i am aware of the similarity between the Boxster & 996 (mk1) but #1 Porsche wasnt cash rich at the time and thus had to resort to part-sharing, and #2 that was pretty much the only similarity between the models).

Put simply, with someone as talented as Ian Callum styling AM's i would have liked to see a little more invention on the outside (the inside looks great).

I disagree, if they changed the look of Aston Martin, I would hate that. I love the way they look, and I love the signature styling. That look is theirs, and if anyone else tries to do it, we can say "they are trying to rip off Aston Martin." :p

And Aston is still losing money if I'm not mistaken. So how can you use the Porsche was not cash rich arguement. I believe Ford is holding it's wallet very tight as they're losing billions every year too. They're talking about making Aston profitable in about 2-3 years when they can produce 5000 cars a year.

911's look the same because its the same model evolving through time. Aston's whole range looks similar. (yes, i am aware of the similarity between the Boxster & 996 (mk1) but #1 Porsche wasnt cash rich at the time and thus had to resort to part-sharing, and #2 that was pretty much the only similarity between the models).

Put simply, with someone as talented as Ian Callum styling AM's i would have liked to see a little more invention on the outside (the inside looks great).

Well, even Cayenne is carrying the same features 911 is, obviously except for the fact that it looks like it has taken STEROIDS...So the same argument is applicable for Porsche, all models look like each other. They do not look exactly the same, but very similar(same for Aston Martin, you can still tell the difference between the Aston models)...Plus I would probably dislike it if they had changed the styling, it's just beautiful to look at...

Freak, but it isn't really a bad thing, Porsches look similar because that design works, and people love it. Don't fix something that isn't broken.

yeah, that is true. but i like it when a company has many different looking models. thats great if they hit the body style on the head, but i personally thing that shouldn't limit them to that one style.

Sure thing Slayer, Ford is under pressure like everyone else in the industry, but:
#1 - the company has by no means held back investment into Aston, and
#2 - there's a lot less riding on Aston; it's merely one (small) brand within the group. Ford can afford to diversify Aston a little more, make it appeal to more people. The way i see it, even if there's a significant price difference between its models, cannibalisation of sales between Aston's own models will be high. Porsche is just Porsche. The Boxster had to be successful and generate high margins for the company. That meant part sharing. (But still, at least the 911 and the boxster have a completely different silhouette.)
My views on this are simply a reflection on the size of Ford vs the size of Porsche.

Basically, i just wish Aston could have been a little more adventurous in the styling. DB9, AM V8, DB7, Vanquish. They all look good, but too alike. How about something a little fresh for one of the new models? Want to tell the difference between a DB9 and the AM V8? Here's a magnifying glass.

You don't need a magnifying glass to see the difference. I know you were just making a statement, but for the people who have the money and are actually willing to buy one, they can easily tell the difference, and that's what really matters. What you think is less important.

Also, what would you have liked to see from Aston Martin? Would you like to see an Aston Martin truck? Or perhaps an Aston Martin SUV?

Or maybe an Aston Martin 4-door sedan, then the station wagon model comes next. :iceslolan

Their aim is to give you slick aerodynamic luxurious cars that go fast. Basically, if they try a different design, it'll just look like another car. I mean, I think Lamborghinis all look very similar too. And even Ferrari, except the Enzo, all are easily recognizable as being Ferraris, and the only really venture from the normal Ferrari look, the Enzo, people have very mixed feelings about that, and I believe Aston Martin will get that reaction if they try something too different than their traditional styling with traditional accents.

Here are the requirements. They HAVE to have that distinctive front grill shape, but size and proportions can be distorted, but it must be that smaller on top than bottom shape. Also, the sides must also have that oval or oblong vent with the single chrome line cutting through it. Those are two things that all Aston Martins have had, and they put those on all their cars intentionally.

Shortening the front and putting the engine in the back, while keeping these accents, would look quite odd, since the side vent is shaped in a way that accents the long front-end that Aston has been known to have in their recent incarnations. I'm sure if they wanted to, they could design a car that's radically different than what they currently have, but it's really up to them, and it seems that so far they don't really have much interest in designing anything other than front-mid engine configuration, two-door, coupes and convertibles.

Where did I say anything about an SUV :rolleyes:

Just less one-dimensional styling. Cars can keep signature touches (like the AM grille) but have a different look. You might think Astons look different enough, but i dont. I think they're playing it too safe.

You bring up Ferrari. Yes, Ferrari's are instantly recognisable. But look at their current line-up. The 360, 575M and 612 Scaglietti. Yeah, just like looking at three identical cars?!?!?!?

You forget Ferrari likes to advertise all their cars red, so they can get away with designing different looking cars while still being undeniably Ferrari. But even the cars you named, except the 575M, they are quite similar in the size, shape, and layout. Of course they have differences, but so do Aston Martin in my opinion. So AM can look the same to you, Ferraris look the same to me, it's all still subjective. BTW, I don't really like the few Ferraris that actually departed from the typical low, wedge shape car with the engine in the back, such as the Maranellos. Their front engine cars never appealed to me, I feel that they should stick to what they have done best, but I guess other people like them, meaning the people who actually pay for them, so that's good for them.

yeah, a long hood and a short rear looks (612) looks like a little mid-engine car (360). ferrari's models are completely different. the biggest thing they share in common is the headlights and tailights.

I love Aston Martin styling and character. However, I willl have to say that their model line is beginning to look too similar considering the now larger number of vehicles in the range, and the spread in pricing the new AMV8 represents to the line.

Not to mention, the AMV8 causes a real dilemma IMHO. When you own as many different brands as Ford does sometimes you cannot help but step on some toes from time to time. But man, the AMV8 sure bends Jaguar over and gives them one for the Gipper if you know what I mean. This Aston in this price range isn't supposed to hurt the XK8 how?

Aston did not need to get down into this market segment as it will undoubtedly cause more headaches than it will solve. Also, it just is not what Aston does, and for good reason. Ferrari understands marketing in this segment better than anyone, and they have zero interest in this segment as far as Ferrari's go. The relationship between Jaguar and Aston Martin should be very similar to the relationship between Maserati and Ferrari IMO.

It would have seemed more logical to me to have created a lineup where the DB7 replacement became more of a pure two seat sports car, front engined of course, with a large inline six that offers similar hp to the current V-12 in a lighter car. (yes, superchraging my be required) Then create a somewhat larger, more posh, 2+2 variant with a V-8 spawned from it. Think of a modern version of the older V-8 V-cars which no current Aston really succeeds. Styling could even be reminiscent of the old V-Cars giving a bit of a "break" in styling right in the middle of the line.Then, keep the Vanquish, or a suitable replacement, in the lineup above all of the other models as the same "uber Aston" it reperesents now with a V-12 of course.

That is a three car lineup that makes a lot more sense for Aston Martin to me. Also, while this lineup doesn't always represent direct competition for Ferrari that is a good thing IMO as Aston and Ferrari are very different brands in character and in execution. And, it doesn't screw Jaguar in the process.

Where did I say anything about an SUV :rolleyes:

Just less one-dimensional styling. Cars can keep signature touches (like the AM grille) but have a different look. You might think Astons look different enough, but i dont. I think they're playing it too safe.

You bring up Ferrari. Yes, Ferrari's are instantly recognisable. But look at their current line-up. The 360, 575M and 612 Scaglietti. Yeah, just like looking at three identical cars?!?!?!?

You might disagree but sometimes playing safe is better than ruining some of the cars. A deviation from the usual styling does not always give out good results. Look at BMWs... Other than that, I think you are right, Astons DO look very similar.

Freak, are you comparing a front-engine car with a mid-engine car??

That's smart, obviously if a company is willing to try different configurations they will end up looking different, but within the models with the same configuration, it's hard to deviate too much without changing the styling completely, and I don't see Aston Martin putting their engines behind the driver anytime soon...

I don't think you can say Ferrari's look the same anymore. The 360 and 575 may have vaguely similar lines, but the bonnet scoop on the 575 is a dead give away. The Enzo doesn't look like anything else. And the 612 just reminds me of a Hyundai.

But I have to say, I am a car enthusiast and I still think the three Aston's look very similar. I'd say the difference is akin to the difference between say a M3 and a 3 series coupe. You'd have to get pretty close to tell the difference.

Eh, the 575 looks completely different, and I've also said the Enzo does, i'm just saying they have more than just one car that also looks similar, but Ferrari is a company that is more willing to have cars with completely different engine configurations, and when you have cars with engines in the front, and cars with engines in the back, it's obvious they would look different, unless you're a stupid company that would make all your cars with fronts and backs both big enough to fit an engine...

Anyway, haven't heard anyone argue about Lamborghini yet...

because we all know that lamborghinis look the same. even when they came out with a "completely" different model, it still looked the same. personally, i don't like the look of lamborghinis, they look to big.

because we all know that lamborghinis look the same. even when they came out with a "completely" different model, it still looked the same. personally, i don't like the look of lamborghinis, they look to big.

I agree, Lambos look massive to the eye...That's odd

Saw a Gallardo yesterday, it's stunning. Looks low and wide. All Aston's are a variation on the same theme, with the AM V8 being squatty, the DB9 being elegant and the Vanquish being muscular. All beautiful. Ferrari's don't look the same, Modena looks nothing like the Spaghetti. Most people can tell a Boxster from a 911. And back on topic I think the 911 Turbo is better overall, but I'd choose a DB9.

lambos look massive because they ARE.

Lol, did he just call it the Ferrari Spaghetti?? :rofl:

Funny cause everytime I see the name, that's what I think of too!

Anyway, Ferrari is a bad example, I was not thinking of their front-engine cars at all, I just thought about the cars like the 360, testerosa, stuff like that, it looked about the same, just got more curvy as the years went by. But Lamborghini looks pretty alike, and some Porsches do, but they did have a few front-engine cars too which looked different.

Hey, at least we can safely say Jaguars look pretty unique for the most part, hehe.

Anyway, haven't heard anyone argue about Lamborghini yet...
Since you asked :iceslolan

I'm kidding... the Gallardo and Murc are pretty similarly styled.. then again you'd be surprised how compact the Gallardo looks in the flesh (or should that be metal). Very easy to tell from the Murc

Would anybody laugh at me if I say that I would prefer any Aston over any Lambo, any Ferrari, or any Porsche any day? :uhoh:

No, cause I would too, but the F40 was a really cool looking car in my opinion...

Well Aston's don't have the same performance but they are the nicest cars to sit in and look at IMO. So I wouldn't laugh. I mean really, how many of us can exploit the full potential of these cars. And even if we can, how often do we do it?

But I want to bring up another supercar.

Call me stupid but the GT40's handling feels a lot better than the Zonda in Gran Turismo 3. That's a car I'd love to own. Now that's a big statement considering I don't like Fords and I hate V8's. But it means nothing because there's none available and I can't afford one if there was.

Is there anyone here who's lucky enough to have driven both the Zonda and the GT40? Is there such a difference in their performance? Or do the programmers just make all MR cars handle like they're on rails?

when i saw a murc on the road last year, it was actually pretty small. but it just looks big. plus, lamborghini is a huge competition to ferrari, so of course i wouldn't like them that much.

I wouldn't trust the way cars handle in those games, trust me. People claim how accurate it is, but basically what they consider "Realistic" is simply a lack of traction. You'd have to slow all the way down to take a turn unless you're going to "drift." And in real life, these supercars can take turns at 100mph and you won't even hear any tire squeal.

I would take the Porsche 911 Turbo. However, if the v12 vanquish was an option I might change my vote.

when i saw a murc on the road last year, it was actually pretty small. but it just looks big. plus, lamborghini is a huge competition to ferrari, so of course i wouldn't like them that much.

i seen one last week, they are small, they look bigger in mags and on tv for some reason.