1992 Eclipse GS vs 92 240SX
InnovaZero
05-02-2004, 01:34 PM
I don't know which car too get: I can get the Eclipse for 3 grand cheaper, and I hear the 4g63 responds a lot better to bolt ons then the KA24DE does. The 240sx is RWD, although I hear first gen eclipse hug the road damn well for a FWD. I dunno, I'm at a loss at choosing. If it was a second gen eclipse, I would buy the 240 in a heartbeat, because I hear those 420a motors are crap, but the 4g63's are mean ass little engines.
freakonaleash1187
05-02-2004, 03:52 PM
i would go with the 240sx. first it is a nissan and i love nissan's. second, it is rwd, got to love rwd.
kkiepvvessau
05-02-2004, 10:25 PM
come to mod 240sx will kill Mustang GT
Eclipse just a piece of junk, if you really want
Eclipse get 94 GST but that is rare. basic model suck like stock civic
Eclipse just a piece of junk, if you really want
Eclipse get 94 GST but that is rare. basic model suck like stock civic
freakonaleash1187
05-02-2004, 10:44 PM
or get a gsx (a gst with awd).
kkiepvvessau
05-03-2004, 10:19 AM
240sx 91 or 92 death engine about $800 swap
SR20DET JDM Turbo around 4k , at this point 240sx can kill mustang GT no problem. i haven't heard any stories about eclipse ... there is a guy in Alabama his 240 will take on Mustang Cobra , i actually talk with the friend of the guy who own that crazy 240. i think he sell his 240 for 7k or something , my friend bought 240 91 clean, good paint 1400 from there. Nissan car are just great to mod, mitsubishi is nothing compare even 3000gt or evo .. 240sx good for drift kakakka that why my friend bought the car
SR20DET JDM Turbo around 4k , at this point 240sx can kill mustang GT no problem. i haven't heard any stories about eclipse ... there is a guy in Alabama his 240 will take on Mustang Cobra , i actually talk with the friend of the guy who own that crazy 240. i think he sell his 240 for 7k or something , my friend bought 240 91 clean, good paint 1400 from there. Nissan car are just great to mod, mitsubishi is nothing compare even 3000gt or evo .. 240sx good for drift kakakka that why my friend bought the car
Filthy Sanchez
05-03-2004, 02:55 PM
240sx 91 or 92 death engine about $800 swap
SR20DET JDM Turbo around 4k , at this point 240sx can kill mustang GT no problem. i haven't heard any stories about eclipse ... there is a guy in Alabama his 240 will take on Mustang Cobra , i actually talk with the friend of the guy who own that crazy 240. i think he sell his 240 for 7k or something , my friend bought 240 91 clean, good paint 1400 from there. Nissan car are just great to mod, mitsubishi is nothing compare even 3000gt or evo .. 240sx good for drift kakakka that why my friend bought the car
I got to hand it to you you're the 1st 240sx nut rider I've seen, usually it's Skylines! However you're correct 240SX is my choice of these 2.
SR20DET JDM Turbo around 4k , at this point 240sx can kill mustang GT no problem. i haven't heard any stories about eclipse ... there is a guy in Alabama his 240 will take on Mustang Cobra , i actually talk with the friend of the guy who own that crazy 240. i think he sell his 240 for 7k or something , my friend bought 240 91 clean, good paint 1400 from there. Nissan car are just great to mod, mitsubishi is nothing compare even 3000gt or evo .. 240sx good for drift kakakka that why my friend bought the car
I got to hand it to you you're the 1st 240sx nut rider I've seen, usually it's Skylines! However you're correct 240SX is my choice of these 2.
Filthy Sanchez
05-03-2004, 02:56 PM
i would go with the 240sx. first it is a nissan and i love nissan's. second, it is rwd, got to love rwd.
I agree.
I agree.
nacho_nissan
05-03-2004, 05:47 PM
nothin in the world compares to a 240SX. they are sooo cheap, and you can put many engines in there! even a RB26DETT! and they dont look bad at all
Filthy Sanchez
05-04-2004, 03:49 AM
nothin in the world compares to a 240SX. they are sooo cheap, and you can put many engines in there! even a RB26DETT! and they dont look bad at all
I agree they are great cars and they do look good but let's go with nothing in the world compares to a 240SX for you. Because the same can be said of 5.0 FOX mustangs.
I agree they are great cars and they do look good but let's go with nothing in the world compares to a 240SX for you. Because the same can be said of 5.0 FOX mustangs.
freakonaleash1187
05-04-2004, 06:48 AM
and nissan 300zx's!!!!! had to say that. but i do agree that the 240sx is very versitle.
Jimster
05-04-2004, 07:01 AM
nothin in the world compares to a 240SX. they are sooo cheap, and you can put many engines in there! even a RB26DETT! and they dont look bad at all
They are versatile, but silly little ricers who watch d0rift0rs y0! at the D1 have ruined the S Chassis Nissan's for life. Might I add that the turbos in the RB26DETT clash with LHD steering columns and won't go in? and it'll fuck the weight distibution completely if it does go in.
I'll take the first Generation Eclipse GSX, thanks.
They are versatile, but silly little ricers who watch d0rift0rs y0! at the D1 have ruined the S Chassis Nissan's for life. Might I add that the turbos in the RB26DETT clash with LHD steering columns and won't go in? and it'll fuck the weight distibution completely if it does go in.
I'll take the first Generation Eclipse GSX, thanks.
TatII
05-04-2004, 01:15 PM
stock for stock i'll take the 240 anyday. mod for mod i'll take the 240 anyday. the old first gen dsm's are ugly and they are only worth gettin if they are turboed. the n/a even though its a 4g63 is still not worth boosting beucsae you still have to change the pistons. so in order to make a n/a dsm really fast you need to swap the motor out. so why would you pick an uglier car that has to get the motor swaped out anyways? the 240 also needs a motor swap to be quick ( a 92 KA motor probrably has tons of mile on it and would not be worth boosting ) but atleast you have options and a modded S13 hatchback looks soo much better then the first gen DSM's. also they handle alot better from the get go. along with tons of parts interchangability with other nissans that you can get from the scrap yard so you can get brake and drive train upgrades for a fraction of hte price.
nacho_nissan
05-04-2004, 05:34 PM
one more thing... no hardcore racing car is FWD...so therefore the Eclipse is just another civic! a RB26DETT in a 240SX will be more for a showcar. evryone knows the best swap for the 240 is the SR20. and maybe the RB25DET if you want to drag race.
TatII
05-04-2004, 06:53 PM
and what most people don't know is that if you turbo charge the original motor in the car, it will be faster then a SR. but most people don't know becuase they only read magazines. :rolleyes:
kkiepvvessau
05-05-2004, 07:36 AM
eclipe gsx awd get to hight speed will fuck up
like the one in fast and furious . 240 are cheap
stupid cars will fit most off powerful engine ... the look is not bad ...
like the one in fast and furious . 240 are cheap
stupid cars will fit most off powerful engine ... the look is not bad ...
Filthy Sanchez
05-05-2004, 02:12 PM
one more thing... no hardcore racing car is FWD...so therefore the Eclipse is just another civic! a RB26DETT in a 240SX will be more for a showcar. evryone knows the best swap for the 240 is the SR20. and maybe the RB25DET if you want to drag race.
You guys don't seem to really like FWD? I agree.
You guys don't seem to really like FWD? I agree.
nacho_nissan
05-05-2004, 05:15 PM
and what most people don't know is that if you turbo charge the original motor in the car, it will be faster then a SR. but most people don't know becuase they only read magazines. :rolleyes:
gues what?? evryone knows that! but not really. you will have much more torque! but hp...no. the S15 SR20DET has about 250hp at the crank. thats a bit less than what you claim in your KA. now the reason we dont like KA's that much, is that it is heavier, not so high revving, and the SR20 has greater potential! but most people dont know this cause they dont read magazines! :rolleyes:
gues what?? evryone knows that! but not really. you will have much more torque! but hp...no. the S15 SR20DET has about 250hp at the crank. thats a bit less than what you claim in your KA. now the reason we dont like KA's that much, is that it is heavier, not so high revving, and the SR20 has greater potential! but most people dont know this cause they dont read magazines! :rolleyes:
TatII
05-05-2004, 08:01 PM
know how much will this S15 SR20DET cost? let alone how hard will it be to find one? about 2 years ago when i was deciding what i want to do with the car, i searched everywhere, and i found that the S15 SR20DET would be nearly impossible to find, and the engine itself would cost close to 5000 alone. sorry not worth the money. even the S14 SR20DET is not all that great. i know a person with the S14 SR20DET which comes with a T28 turbo and variable valve timing, in his S14 that and supporting mods, i still beat him, and i was untuned at the time with less mods. trust me i read magazines alot and i know plenty of people with SR's in person ( not on the web ) so i would know more about it then you do. so how is a 2.4 liter goin to have less potential then a 2.0 liter?
sheesh i'm soo tired of listing these things but here we go again
both engines have forged rods,
both engines have forged crank ( KA's being stronger )
both engines have piston cooling oil squirter ( only turbo engines have these)
the KA have a iron block which is stronger then a alumium one
the KA have a better valve train ( direct cam on bucket style instead of the SR's rocker arm style ) you try to rev a SR too high the rocker arms will fly out, that is why they sell rocker arm stoppers that you put inside the valve cover.
so how is a SR more potent then a KA? the tiny stock T25 ain't gonna give you real power anyways, not to mention the stock tiny ass 370cc injectors, or the small 2.5 inch mass air flow meter that maxes out at around 300hp. so for the SR20DET ( the older non S15 versions ) to hit over 300hp, you would need to upgrade the MAF to a 300ZX 3 inch version, upgrade the injectors to support more hp, ( which means you need a SAFC to tune ) and the most important of all you need to buy a larger turbo to give you more power then 300hp. you see the SR has plenty of limitations most of them i just listed. so lets see you spend around 4000 for a swap for a S13 redtop. that doens't include the FMIC or the boost controller to raise your boost to make decent power. and then after around 5000-6000 grand your making 300hp yahhh what a good bargain!!!! i spend around 3000 for my setup, granted i am also limited by the same things as the SR, such as the 370cc injectors that i gladly took from a SR, and the stock MAF tops out at around 300hp as well. but i'm only running 9 psi, and that whp i have is outdated i have done a few more tricks and i'm probrably making 250-260ish at the wheels. which is a quit a bit over 300hp ( more close to 320hp ) and the rebuild of my engine will cost around 2000, plus better fuel management ( 1000 tops ) and i spend 6000 for close to 500 hp. the SR can't touch that sorry. considering that the S15 SR alone cost close to 5000 and thats not even including install and your only goin to be making around 210 whp. don't make me laugh.
P.S. you have been owned!!!
sheesh i'm soo tired of listing these things but here we go again
both engines have forged rods,
both engines have forged crank ( KA's being stronger )
both engines have piston cooling oil squirter ( only turbo engines have these)
the KA have a iron block which is stronger then a alumium one
the KA have a better valve train ( direct cam on bucket style instead of the SR's rocker arm style ) you try to rev a SR too high the rocker arms will fly out, that is why they sell rocker arm stoppers that you put inside the valve cover.
so how is a SR more potent then a KA? the tiny stock T25 ain't gonna give you real power anyways, not to mention the stock tiny ass 370cc injectors, or the small 2.5 inch mass air flow meter that maxes out at around 300hp. so for the SR20DET ( the older non S15 versions ) to hit over 300hp, you would need to upgrade the MAF to a 300ZX 3 inch version, upgrade the injectors to support more hp, ( which means you need a SAFC to tune ) and the most important of all you need to buy a larger turbo to give you more power then 300hp. you see the SR has plenty of limitations most of them i just listed. so lets see you spend around 4000 for a swap for a S13 redtop. that doens't include the FMIC or the boost controller to raise your boost to make decent power. and then after around 5000-6000 grand your making 300hp yahhh what a good bargain!!!! i spend around 3000 for my setup, granted i am also limited by the same things as the SR, such as the 370cc injectors that i gladly took from a SR, and the stock MAF tops out at around 300hp as well. but i'm only running 9 psi, and that whp i have is outdated i have done a few more tricks and i'm probrably making 250-260ish at the wheels. which is a quit a bit over 300hp ( more close to 320hp ) and the rebuild of my engine will cost around 2000, plus better fuel management ( 1000 tops ) and i spend 6000 for close to 500 hp. the SR can't touch that sorry. considering that the S15 SR alone cost close to 5000 and thats not even including install and your only goin to be making around 210 whp. don't make me laugh.
P.S. you have been owned!!!
nacho_nissan
05-06-2004, 03:54 PM
know how much will this S15 SR20DET cost? let alone how hard will it be to find one? about 2 years ago when i was deciding what i want to do with the car, i searched everywhere, and i found that the S15 SR20DET would be nearly impossible to find, and the engine itself would cost close to 5000 alone. sorry not worth the money. even the S14 SR20DET is not all that great. i know a person with the S14 SR20DET which comes with a T28 turbo and variable valve timing, in his S14 that and supporting mods, i still beat him, and i was untuned at the time with less mods. trust me i read magazines alot and i know plenty of people with SR's in person ( not on the web ) so i would know more about it then you do. so how is a 2.4 liter goin to have less potential then a 2.0 liter?
sheesh i'm soo tired of listing these things but here we go again
both engines have forged rods,
both engines have forged crank ( KA's being stronger )
both engines have piston cooling oil squirter ( only turbo engines have these)
the KA have a iron block which is stronger then a alumium one
the KA have a better valve train ( direct cam on bucket style instead of the SR's rocker arm style ) you try to rev a SR too high the rocker arms will fly out, that is why they sell rocker arm stoppers that you put inside the valve cover.
so how is a SR more potent then a KA? the tiny stock T25 ain't gonna give you real power anyways, not to mention the stock tiny ass 370cc injectors, or the small 2.5 inch mass air flow meter that maxes out at around 300hp. so for the SR20DET ( the older non S15 versions ) to hit over 300hp, you would need to upgrade the MAF to a 300ZX 3 inch version, upgrade the injectors to support more hp, ( which means you need a SAFC to tune ) and the most important of all you need to buy a larger turbo to give you more power then 300hp. you see the SR has plenty of limitations most of them i just listed. so lets see you spend around 4000 for a swap for a S13 redtop. that doens't include the FMIC or the boost controller to raise your boost to make decent power. and then after around 5000-6000 grand your making 300hp yahhh what a good bargain!!!! i spend around 3000 for my setup, granted i am also limited by the same things as the SR, such as the 370cc injectors that i gladly took from a SR, and the stock MAF tops out at around 300hp as well. but i'm only running 9 psi, and that whp i have is outdated i have done a few more tricks and i'm probrably making 250-260ish at the wheels. which is a quit a bit over 300hp ( more close to 320hp ) and the rebuild of my engine will cost around 2000, plus better fuel management ( 1000 tops ) and i spend 6000 for close to 500 hp. the SR can't touch that sorry. considering that the S15 SR alone cost close to 5000 and thats not even including install and your only goin to be making around 210 whp. don't make me laugh.
P.S. you have been owned!!!
1st of all, you never posted anywhere anything about money! of course it will be way cheaper to get a KA24 into the 300hp. i know you have to do alot of work to get up there, but whats the strongest KA24 youve seen? il take the SR20 over the KA, one of my reasons is because i love engines that rev. the SR revs a bit more than the heavy KA, which even tho it may be stronger, you still need to sleave and shit after 300hp. ill take a KA24 and fix it for a dragster, but anything else ill take a SR20. of course, like i said, if money wasnt a issue. and i dunno where youve been, but now days(not 2 years ago) there's S15 SR's everywhere! its benn proven time and time again how people just give up at trying to fix a KA and end up geting a SR20. who in the real racing world, drag racing, drifting, etc. uses a KA24??? think about it in the big picture... yeah....
sheesh i'm soo tired of listing these things but here we go again
both engines have forged rods,
both engines have forged crank ( KA's being stronger )
both engines have piston cooling oil squirter ( only turbo engines have these)
the KA have a iron block which is stronger then a alumium one
the KA have a better valve train ( direct cam on bucket style instead of the SR's rocker arm style ) you try to rev a SR too high the rocker arms will fly out, that is why they sell rocker arm stoppers that you put inside the valve cover.
so how is a SR more potent then a KA? the tiny stock T25 ain't gonna give you real power anyways, not to mention the stock tiny ass 370cc injectors, or the small 2.5 inch mass air flow meter that maxes out at around 300hp. so for the SR20DET ( the older non S15 versions ) to hit over 300hp, you would need to upgrade the MAF to a 300ZX 3 inch version, upgrade the injectors to support more hp, ( which means you need a SAFC to tune ) and the most important of all you need to buy a larger turbo to give you more power then 300hp. you see the SR has plenty of limitations most of them i just listed. so lets see you spend around 4000 for a swap for a S13 redtop. that doens't include the FMIC or the boost controller to raise your boost to make decent power. and then after around 5000-6000 grand your making 300hp yahhh what a good bargain!!!! i spend around 3000 for my setup, granted i am also limited by the same things as the SR, such as the 370cc injectors that i gladly took from a SR, and the stock MAF tops out at around 300hp as well. but i'm only running 9 psi, and that whp i have is outdated i have done a few more tricks and i'm probrably making 250-260ish at the wheels. which is a quit a bit over 300hp ( more close to 320hp ) and the rebuild of my engine will cost around 2000, plus better fuel management ( 1000 tops ) and i spend 6000 for close to 500 hp. the SR can't touch that sorry. considering that the S15 SR alone cost close to 5000 and thats not even including install and your only goin to be making around 210 whp. don't make me laugh.
P.S. you have been owned!!!
1st of all, you never posted anywhere anything about money! of course it will be way cheaper to get a KA24 into the 300hp. i know you have to do alot of work to get up there, but whats the strongest KA24 youve seen? il take the SR20 over the KA, one of my reasons is because i love engines that rev. the SR revs a bit more than the heavy KA, which even tho it may be stronger, you still need to sleave and shit after 300hp. ill take a KA24 and fix it for a dragster, but anything else ill take a SR20. of course, like i said, if money wasnt a issue. and i dunno where youve been, but now days(not 2 years ago) there's S15 SR's everywhere! its benn proven time and time again how people just give up at trying to fix a KA and end up geting a SR20. who in the real racing world, drag racing, drifting, etc. uses a KA24??? think about it in the big picture... yeah....
nacho_nissan
05-06-2004, 03:57 PM
P.S. you have been owned!!!
i bet you are really proud of owning a 16 year old...
i really dont see why you guys type down a whole paper like if you were doing a report for skool, and then say "i owned you.."! is that supposed to make you look cool? i have alot of friends with SR powered 240's, i bet theyd be glad to own you at a track!
i bet you are really proud of owning a 16 year old...
i really dont see why you guys type down a whole paper like if you were doing a report for skool, and then say "i owned you.."! is that supposed to make you look cool? i have alot of friends with SR powered 240's, i bet theyd be glad to own you at a track!
kkiepvvessau
05-06-2004, 07:12 PM
SR going to rule over mustang kakakka stupid big engine
Filthy Sanchez
05-07-2004, 10:22 AM
SR going to rule over mustang kakakka stupid big engine
Honestly guy I've seen plenty of MODDED 240sx around here get eatin up by 5.0stangs sorry to have to tell you that.
Honestly guy I've seen plenty of MODDED 240sx around here get eatin up by 5.0stangs sorry to have to tell you that.
Neutrino
05-07-2004, 10:27 AM
SR going to rule over mustang kakakka stupid big engine
please stick to the subject at hand
one more thing... no hardcore racing car is FWD...so therefore the Eclipse is just another civic!
I would beg to differ on that. Alfa Romeo is grilling BMW on the european rancing series and they use FWD cars.
however in this comparison I'll chose the 240SX
please stick to the subject at hand
one more thing... no hardcore racing car is FWD...so therefore the Eclipse is just another civic!
I would beg to differ on that. Alfa Romeo is grilling BMW on the european rancing series and they use FWD cars.
however in this comparison I'll chose the 240SX
TatII
05-07-2004, 02:32 PM
there are quit a few 400-500whp KA24's. i have never heard of anyone needing to sleeve a KA. most 400-500whp SR20's uses a stroker kit to up the displacement to a 2.2 liter. why go thru all that trouble when you can have the larger displacement in the first place? and another thing i was stating facts with numbers and logic, your arguement is purely on opinion. i was defending the KA and is stating that the SR is even though a very good engine, it was quit overrated. you know nothing of the two engines yet you try to argue with facts. fine enjoy blowing your money away.
also KA's are quit good at autocrossing with its good low end torque. now for the race track, you can the same power out of a KA running less boost so its less stress on the engine, and the low end tq will help it in the corners. the boost will also come on sooner if i use the same size turbo for the SR. i am more of a drag racer/ high end highway racer. its not everyday that i can go up the LIME ROCK and race at a race course. that is why i choose to go with a T04B instead of a T3. so yes at a road course with my setup, a SR will eat me up with its better power delivery compared to my laggy T4.becuase i am not building my car for something that will barely ever do, and i highly doubt you will go road racing either if you had a SR. however on the highway where high end matters, then T4 will beat almost any stock turbo SR.
and BTW the people who blow up KA's don't know shit about turbos. i've been running my KA for over a year and over 20K miles and its still fine with no smoke blowing out and i burn less oil then a brand new STI and EVO 8. so take that for reliablity. its idiots who don't knwo what da hell they're doing who blow up KA's. if the SR didn't come turbo from the factory, and you do the same shit to it like how some people turbo KA's, that shit will blow too. no matter how strong a engine is built if your knocking the shit out of it, it will freaking blow in a matter of minutes. i know a guy who also has a KA-T and he is on his 2nd engine and recently he blew out cylinder number 3 and had to get another rebuild. he is not very good with mechics nor have alot of experience to know whats really going on or how to trouble shoot. that is why i even admitted myself, if you don't know shit about turbo cars or how they run or how the ECU takes in data from the input and the outputs and the reaction of every conditions that would effect engine parameters. then don't bother turboin the KA because you will blow shit up. so for amatuers who wants the easy way out swap in a SR and spend more money. but for us who likes a challenge and who wants to be different and who wants to prove a point and blow any SR i see away for very little money pick a KA. by the end of this summer to the end of fall, i should be making over 400whp by investing less then 3.5K more. and once again the car will be daily driven.
we are both nissan lovers, why are we even fighting over this? i have my believe you have your believe, i stated the facts, and the reasons. its up to you if you want to listen and atleast think realistically. yes a SR will beat me at a road course, but how often do i race at a autoX or a road course? so far i have never, not even once. i don't feel like waking up at 6, and waiting for tech inspection at 7:30 in the morning. however i have encoutered many highway races, and many drag races, and my KA setup served me well enough. saying your car is good at something that you do'nt do means nothing if you do'nt actually apply it. thats all i'm saying.
also KA's are quit good at autocrossing with its good low end torque. now for the race track, you can the same power out of a KA running less boost so its less stress on the engine, and the low end tq will help it in the corners. the boost will also come on sooner if i use the same size turbo for the SR. i am more of a drag racer/ high end highway racer. its not everyday that i can go up the LIME ROCK and race at a race course. that is why i choose to go with a T04B instead of a T3. so yes at a road course with my setup, a SR will eat me up with its better power delivery compared to my laggy T4.becuase i am not building my car for something that will barely ever do, and i highly doubt you will go road racing either if you had a SR. however on the highway where high end matters, then T4 will beat almost any stock turbo SR.
and BTW the people who blow up KA's don't know shit about turbos. i've been running my KA for over a year and over 20K miles and its still fine with no smoke blowing out and i burn less oil then a brand new STI and EVO 8. so take that for reliablity. its idiots who don't knwo what da hell they're doing who blow up KA's. if the SR didn't come turbo from the factory, and you do the same shit to it like how some people turbo KA's, that shit will blow too. no matter how strong a engine is built if your knocking the shit out of it, it will freaking blow in a matter of minutes. i know a guy who also has a KA-T and he is on his 2nd engine and recently he blew out cylinder number 3 and had to get another rebuild. he is not very good with mechics nor have alot of experience to know whats really going on or how to trouble shoot. that is why i even admitted myself, if you don't know shit about turbo cars or how they run or how the ECU takes in data from the input and the outputs and the reaction of every conditions that would effect engine parameters. then don't bother turboin the KA because you will blow shit up. so for amatuers who wants the easy way out swap in a SR and spend more money. but for us who likes a challenge and who wants to be different and who wants to prove a point and blow any SR i see away for very little money pick a KA. by the end of this summer to the end of fall, i should be making over 400whp by investing less then 3.5K more. and once again the car will be daily driven.
we are both nissan lovers, why are we even fighting over this? i have my believe you have your believe, i stated the facts, and the reasons. its up to you if you want to listen and atleast think realistically. yes a SR will beat me at a road course, but how often do i race at a autoX or a road course? so far i have never, not even once. i don't feel like waking up at 6, and waiting for tech inspection at 7:30 in the morning. however i have encoutered many highway races, and many drag races, and my KA setup served me well enough. saying your car is good at something that you do'nt do means nothing if you do'nt actually apply it. thats all i'm saying.
kkiepvvessau
05-07-2004, 07:13 PM
Honestly guy I've seen plenty of MODDED 240sx around here get eatin up by 5.0stangs sorry to have to tell you that.
kool , :smokin:
kool , :smokin:
nacho_nissan
05-08-2004, 05:30 PM
there are quit a few 400-500whp KA24's. i have never heard of anyone needing to sleeve a KA. most 400-500whp SR20's uses a stroker kit to up the displacement to a 2.2 liter. why go thru all that trouble when you can have the larger displacement in the first place? and another thing i was stating facts with numbers and logic, your arguement is purely on opinion. i was defending the KA and is stating that the SR is even though a very good engine, it was quit overrated. you know nothing of the two engines yet you try to argue with facts. fine enjoy blowing your money away.
also KA's are quit good at autocrossing with its good low end torque. now for the race track, you can the same power out of a KA running less boost so its less stress on the engine, and the low end tq will help it in the corners. the boost will also come on sooner if i use the same size turbo for the SR. i am more of a drag racer/ high end highway racer. its not everyday that i can go up the LIME ROCK and race at a race course. that is why i choose to go with a T04B instead of a T3. so yes at a road course with my setup, a SR will eat me up with its better power delivery compared to my laggy T4.becuase i am not building my car for something that will barely ever do, and i highly doubt you will go road racing either if you had a SR. however on the highway where high end matters, then T4 will beat almost any stock turbo SR.
and BTW the people who blow up KA's don't know shit about turbos. i've been running my KA for over a year and over 20K miles and its still fine with no smoke blowing out and i burn less oil then a brand new STI and EVO 8. so take that for reliablity. its idiots who don't knwo what da hell they're doing who blow up KA's. if the SR didn't come turbo from the factory, and you do the same shit to it like how some people turbo KA's, that shit will blow too. no matter how strong a engine is built if your knocking the shit out of it, it will freaking blow in a matter of minutes. i know a guy who also has a KA-T and he is on his 2nd engine and recently he blew out cylinder number 3 and had to get another rebuild. he is not very good with mechics nor have alot of experience to know whats really going on or how to trouble shoot. that is why i even admitted myself, if you don't know shit about turbo cars or how they run or how the ECU takes in data from the input and the outputs and the reaction of every conditions that would effect engine parameters. then don't bother turboin the KA because you will blow shit up. so for amatuers who wants the easy way out swap in a SR and spend more money. but for us who likes a challenge and who wants to be different and who wants to prove a point and blow any SR i see away for very little money pick a KA. by the end of this summer to the end of fall, i should be making over 400whp by investing less then 3.5K more. and once again the car will be daily driven.
we are both nissan lovers, why are we even fighting over this? i have my believe you have your believe, i stated the facts, and the reasons. its up to you if you want to listen and atleast think realistically. yes a SR will beat me at a road course, but how often do i race at a autoX or a road course? so far i have never, not even once. i don't feel like waking up at 6, and waiting for tech inspection at 7:30 in the morning. however i have encoutered many highway races, and many drag races, and my KA setup served me well enough. saying your car is good at something that you do'nt do means nothing if you do'nt actually apply it. thats all i'm saying.
look man, yeah, i wont argue anymore, but your the one who started it. ill just drop it. yes i know, and ill say it again. KA is a good engine. i would love to fix a KA-T just to drag race, but like i said before, im all about SR's. keep up the good work.
also KA's are quit good at autocrossing with its good low end torque. now for the race track, you can the same power out of a KA running less boost so its less stress on the engine, and the low end tq will help it in the corners. the boost will also come on sooner if i use the same size turbo for the SR. i am more of a drag racer/ high end highway racer. its not everyday that i can go up the LIME ROCK and race at a race course. that is why i choose to go with a T04B instead of a T3. so yes at a road course with my setup, a SR will eat me up with its better power delivery compared to my laggy T4.becuase i am not building my car for something that will barely ever do, and i highly doubt you will go road racing either if you had a SR. however on the highway where high end matters, then T4 will beat almost any stock turbo SR.
and BTW the people who blow up KA's don't know shit about turbos. i've been running my KA for over a year and over 20K miles and its still fine with no smoke blowing out and i burn less oil then a brand new STI and EVO 8. so take that for reliablity. its idiots who don't knwo what da hell they're doing who blow up KA's. if the SR didn't come turbo from the factory, and you do the same shit to it like how some people turbo KA's, that shit will blow too. no matter how strong a engine is built if your knocking the shit out of it, it will freaking blow in a matter of minutes. i know a guy who also has a KA-T and he is on his 2nd engine and recently he blew out cylinder number 3 and had to get another rebuild. he is not very good with mechics nor have alot of experience to know whats really going on or how to trouble shoot. that is why i even admitted myself, if you don't know shit about turbo cars or how they run or how the ECU takes in data from the input and the outputs and the reaction of every conditions that would effect engine parameters. then don't bother turboin the KA because you will blow shit up. so for amatuers who wants the easy way out swap in a SR and spend more money. but for us who likes a challenge and who wants to be different and who wants to prove a point and blow any SR i see away for very little money pick a KA. by the end of this summer to the end of fall, i should be making over 400whp by investing less then 3.5K more. and once again the car will be daily driven.
we are both nissan lovers, why are we even fighting over this? i have my believe you have your believe, i stated the facts, and the reasons. its up to you if you want to listen and atleast think realistically. yes a SR will beat me at a road course, but how often do i race at a autoX or a road course? so far i have never, not even once. i don't feel like waking up at 6, and waiting for tech inspection at 7:30 in the morning. however i have encoutered many highway races, and many drag races, and my KA setup served me well enough. saying your car is good at something that you do'nt do means nothing if you do'nt actually apply it. thats all i'm saying.
look man, yeah, i wont argue anymore, but your the one who started it. ill just drop it. yes i know, and ill say it again. KA is a good engine. i would love to fix a KA-T just to drag race, but like i said before, im all about SR's. keep up the good work.
nacho_nissan
05-08-2004, 05:34 PM
Honestly guy I've seen plenty of MODDED 240sx around here get eatin up by 5.0stangs sorry to have to tell you that.
honestly guy ive seen plenty of MODDED mustangs around here get devored by 240sx's sorry to have to tell you that. dont want to start another argument on imports-domestics, but i bet all of those 240's that got eaten by the mustangs were not made to go straight like the mustangs. drag race=mustang..road course=240sx.
honestly guy ive seen plenty of MODDED mustangs around here get devored by 240sx's sorry to have to tell you that. dont want to start another argument on imports-domestics, but i bet all of those 240's that got eaten by the mustangs were not made to go straight like the mustangs. drag race=mustang..road course=240sx.
Filthy Sanchez
05-09-2004, 02:42 PM
honestly guy ive seen plenty of MODDED mustangs around here get devored by 240sx's sorry to have to tell you that. dont want to start another argument on imports-domestics, but i bet all of those 240's that got eaten by the mustangs were not made to go straight like the mustangs. drag race=mustang..road course=240sx.
It's all good brother just homeboy seems to think (and something tells me you're the same) that if it's a 240sx it'll beat any mustang (or anything for that matter). Just isn't the way it is. I have no doubt that some 240SXs can. On the track I san see that as most 5.0 stangs have a live axle and aren't great track cars. I have seen a few that were build to do so and did so well. I don't hate 240s as a matter of fact older Nissans are my favorite imports (300ZX, 240SX, 280ZX, Skylines etc.) along with Supras and RX-7s. I guess where you come from 240SXs rule the streets. Just saying honestly 5.0 stangs run them most places I've been (yes I'm talking drag racing and I'm not even a drag racing fan, and as far as Mustangs go I really don't even care for the 5.0s) That's just how it is. If you think I hate imports for that I'm sorry you think that. Hell I'm with you and don't want to start another import -vs- domestic arguement either. I like and dislike plenty of domestics and imports (mainly all FWD ones) I think a 240SX is sweet with a moderate body kit, descent (lip) spoiler, a quality exhaust (non fart trumpet) and without gawdy stickers. My friend Rocky had a fox mustang with a 351 stroked to a 454 and an INCON twin turbo set up backed by a D&D built T56 6speed. Nothing on the street could touch it, believe me there were plenty of import guys who thought they could and would say because it was American it couldn't hang but each one made an excuse when coughing up the cash. All this after I would look at there Supra or RX-7, Skyline what have you and compliment them on it. I mean hell I'd give props where they were do and then get clowned, it's that kind of "import fan" attitude I hate. It use to be only Chevy guys were that way, I mean I'm not a brand loyalist either I love good chevys, fords, dodges, toyotas, etc. Yet they would clown on my friends stang then loose and moke excuses what's that!? Just saying I haven't seen to many 240SXs drag race anyway, but the ones I have seen didn't fair that well, not just against stangs either I've seen 1 race a Supra and another race an RX-7 both lost, and yet a 3rd loose to a Camaro. I'm not claiming 240SXs suck or can't beat anything I'm sure they can, it's just that idiot seem to think they are unbeatable my point is nothing is unbeatable (something you can't seem to convince import fans of), I never witnessed anyone beat my friend's stang but I'm pretty sure somewhere there was something that could. I think a 240Sx would make a great track car though I might choose an EVO or WRX. If I were to build an import it would be either a Supra, RX-7, Skyline (good luck there), 300ZX, or 240SX (not in order) and 1st choice would most likely be 240SX considering price, value, looks, and all factors.
The car I'm building is an older mustang restomodified with updated driveline and suspension for track use so that should tell you I'm not really a drag racing fan.
It's all good brother just homeboy seems to think (and something tells me you're the same) that if it's a 240sx it'll beat any mustang (or anything for that matter). Just isn't the way it is. I have no doubt that some 240SXs can. On the track I san see that as most 5.0 stangs have a live axle and aren't great track cars. I have seen a few that were build to do so and did so well. I don't hate 240s as a matter of fact older Nissans are my favorite imports (300ZX, 240SX, 280ZX, Skylines etc.) along with Supras and RX-7s. I guess where you come from 240SXs rule the streets. Just saying honestly 5.0 stangs run them most places I've been (yes I'm talking drag racing and I'm not even a drag racing fan, and as far as Mustangs go I really don't even care for the 5.0s) That's just how it is. If you think I hate imports for that I'm sorry you think that. Hell I'm with you and don't want to start another import -vs- domestic arguement either. I like and dislike plenty of domestics and imports (mainly all FWD ones) I think a 240SX is sweet with a moderate body kit, descent (lip) spoiler, a quality exhaust (non fart trumpet) and without gawdy stickers. My friend Rocky had a fox mustang with a 351 stroked to a 454 and an INCON twin turbo set up backed by a D&D built T56 6speed. Nothing on the street could touch it, believe me there were plenty of import guys who thought they could and would say because it was American it couldn't hang but each one made an excuse when coughing up the cash. All this after I would look at there Supra or RX-7, Skyline what have you and compliment them on it. I mean hell I'd give props where they were do and then get clowned, it's that kind of "import fan" attitude I hate. It use to be only Chevy guys were that way, I mean I'm not a brand loyalist either I love good chevys, fords, dodges, toyotas, etc. Yet they would clown on my friends stang then loose and moke excuses what's that!? Just saying I haven't seen to many 240SXs drag race anyway, but the ones I have seen didn't fair that well, not just against stangs either I've seen 1 race a Supra and another race an RX-7 both lost, and yet a 3rd loose to a Camaro. I'm not claiming 240SXs suck or can't beat anything I'm sure they can, it's just that idiot seem to think they are unbeatable my point is nothing is unbeatable (something you can't seem to convince import fans of), I never witnessed anyone beat my friend's stang but I'm pretty sure somewhere there was something that could. I think a 240Sx would make a great track car though I might choose an EVO or WRX. If I were to build an import it would be either a Supra, RX-7, Skyline (good luck there), 300ZX, or 240SX (not in order) and 1st choice would most likely be 240SX considering price, value, looks, and all factors.
The car I'm building is an older mustang restomodified with updated driveline and suspension for track use so that should tell you I'm not really a drag racing fan.
kkiepvvessau
05-09-2004, 09:21 PM
come to mod '''nissan '''is the fastest car in the world. this is maximune modify on world cars.
2000 HKS Racing 180SX
0-60 in 1.2 second
0-100 mph 2.54 sec
Quarter Mile: 7.72 sec @ 176 mph
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2772 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 759 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
1994 Ford SVT 10.0L Boss Mustang
Type: V8
Displacement: 9804 cc
Horsepower: 855 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 790 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.9 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.55 sec @ 135 mph
2001 Corvette Twin-Turbo
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: est 240 mph
1973 Porsche 917/30
Type: Twin-Turbo v12
Displacement: 5374 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque: 820 lb-ft @ 6400 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Speed: 238 mph
2001 Vipper 800TT
Type: Twin-Turbo V10
Displacement: 7990 cc
Horsepower: 833 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 902 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 2.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 9.99 sec @ 138.95 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 230 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph
Toyota Supra
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 3210 cc
Horsepower: 1200 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 741 lb-ft @ 7400 rpm
Top Speed: 249 mph
Blitz Skyline r34
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2750 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 9300 rpm
Torque: 709 lb-ft @ 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 213 mph
2000 HKS Racing 180SX
0-60 in 1.2 second
0-100 mph 2.54 sec
Quarter Mile: 7.72 sec @ 176 mph
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2772 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 759 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
1994 Ford SVT 10.0L Boss Mustang
Type: V8
Displacement: 9804 cc
Horsepower: 855 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 790 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.9 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.55 sec @ 135 mph
2001 Corvette Twin-Turbo
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: est 240 mph
1973 Porsche 917/30
Type: Twin-Turbo v12
Displacement: 5374 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque: 820 lb-ft @ 6400 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Speed: 238 mph
2001 Vipper 800TT
Type: Twin-Turbo V10
Displacement: 7990 cc
Horsepower: 833 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 902 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 2.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 9.99 sec @ 138.95 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 230 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph
Toyota Supra
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 3210 cc
Horsepower: 1200 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 741 lb-ft @ 7400 rpm
Top Speed: 249 mph
Blitz Skyline r34
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2750 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 9300 rpm
Torque: 709 lb-ft @ 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 213 mph
nbw
05-10-2004, 03:18 AM
another vote for the 240sx.
nice to see the ka-t getting some attenion. :)
nice to see the ka-t getting some attenion. :)
Jimster
05-10-2004, 04:51 AM
come to mod '''nissan '''is the fastest car in the world. this is maximune modify on world cars.
2000 HKS Racing 180SX
0-60 in 1.2 second
0-100 mph 2.54 sec
Quarter Mile: 7.72 sec @ 176 mph
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2772 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 759 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
1994 Ford SVT 10.0L Boss Mustang
Type: V8
Displacement: 9804 cc
Horsepower: 855 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 790 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.9 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.55 sec @ 135 mph
2001 Corvette Twin-Turbo
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: est 240 mph
1973 Porsche 917/30
Type: Twin-Turbo v12
Displacement: 5374 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque: 820 lb-ft @ 6400 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Speed: 238 mph
2001 Vipper 800TT
Type: Twin-Turbo V10
Displacement: 7990 cc
Horsepower: 833 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 902 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 2.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 9.99 sec @ 138.95 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 230 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph
Toyota Supra
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 3210 cc
Horsepower: 1200 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 741 lb-ft @ 7400 rpm
Top Speed: 249 mph
Blitz Skyline r34
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2750 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 9300 rpm
Torque: 709 lb-ft @ 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 213 mph
:rolleyes: 'nuff said
You don't have any idea how much that HKS 180SX cost to build do you?
More than what anyone buying an early 90's car can afford is the simple answer.
2000 HKS Racing 180SX
0-60 in 1.2 second
0-100 mph 2.54 sec
Quarter Mile: 7.72 sec @ 176 mph
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2772 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 759 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
1994 Ford SVT 10.0L Boss Mustang
Type: V8
Displacement: 9804 cc
Horsepower: 855 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 790 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.9 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.55 sec @ 135 mph
2001 Corvette Twin-Turbo
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: est 240 mph
1973 Porsche 917/30
Type: Twin-Turbo v12
Displacement: 5374 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque: 820 lb-ft @ 6400 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Speed: 238 mph
2001 Vipper 800TT
Type: Twin-Turbo V10
Displacement: 7990 cc
Horsepower: 833 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 902 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 2.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 9.99 sec @ 138.95 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 230 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph
Toyota Supra
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 3210 cc
Horsepower: 1200 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 741 lb-ft @ 7400 rpm
Top Speed: 249 mph
Blitz Skyline r34
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2750 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 9300 rpm
Torque: 709 lb-ft @ 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 213 mph
:rolleyes: 'nuff said
You don't have any idea how much that HKS 180SX cost to build do you?
More than what anyone buying an early 90's car can afford is the simple answer.
Filthy Sanchez
05-11-2004, 02:30 PM
come to mod '''nissan '''is the fastest car in the world. this is maximune modify on world cars.
2000 HKS Racing 180SX
0-60 in 1.2 second
0-100 mph 2.54 sec
Quarter Mile: 7.72 sec @ 176 mph
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2772 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 759 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
1994 Ford SVT 10.0L Boss Mustang
Type: V8
Displacement: 9804 cc
Horsepower: 855 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 790 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.9 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.55 sec @ 135 mph
2001 Corvette Twin-Turbo
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: est 240 mph
1973 Porsche 917/30
Type: Twin-Turbo v12
Displacement: 5374 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque: 820 lb-ft @ 6400 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Speed: 238 mph
2001 Vipper 800TT
Type: Twin-Turbo V10
Displacement: 7990 cc
Horsepower: 833 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 902 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 2.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 9.99 sec @ 138.95 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 230 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph
Toyota Supra
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 3210 cc
Horsepower: 1200 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 741 lb-ft @ 7400 rpm
Top Speed: 249 mph
Blitz Skyline r34
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2750 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 9300 rpm
Torque: 709 lb-ft @ 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 213 mph
Number one nice try, so what you're saying is because this one Nissan is really fast all 240SXs should destroy all Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, Vettes, Vipers, Skylines, Supras etc etc etc. Your said any modded Nissan 240Sx wouls walk anything else. You're still wrong! Look some millionaire spent a lot of $$ to make that car that fast and only 7.7 in 1/4 mile!!?? There are Stangs and Camaros that'll beat that in great numbers. Isn't funny how something convinces you yet when you still look around in the real world it's different. Wake up my point is and always will be in the streets don't assume you'll win everytime or your favorite machine will win everytime it doesn't happen like that. Those are the people who talk and talk then when it doesn't happen make excuses. Guys like Dick, now don't be a Dick.
2000 HKS Racing 180SX
0-60 in 1.2 second
0-100 mph 2.54 sec
Quarter Mile: 7.72 sec @ 176 mph
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2772 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 759 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
1994 Ford SVT 10.0L Boss Mustang
Type: V8
Displacement: 9804 cc
Horsepower: 855 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 790 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.9 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.55 sec @ 135 mph
2001 Corvette Twin-Turbo
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 7007 cc
Horsepower: 802 bhp @ 4600 rpm
Torque: 866 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 1.97 sec
0-100 mph: 4.33 sec
Quarter Mile: 8.95 sec @ 153 mph
Skidpad: 1.01g
Top Speed: est 240 mph
1973 Porsche 917/30
Type: Twin-Turbo v12
Displacement: 5374 cc
Horsepower: 1100 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque: 820 lb-ft @ 6400 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.1 sec
Top Speed: 238 mph
2001 Vipper 800TT
Type: Twin-Turbo V10
Displacement: 7990 cc
Horsepower: 833 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 902 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 2.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 9.99 sec @ 138.95 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 230 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph
Toyota Supra
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 3210 cc
Horsepower: 1200 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 741 lb-ft @ 7400 rpm
Top Speed: 249 mph
Blitz Skyline r34
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2750 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 9300 rpm
Torque: 709 lb-ft @ 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 213 mph
Number one nice try, so what you're saying is because this one Nissan is really fast all 240SXs should destroy all Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, Vettes, Vipers, Skylines, Supras etc etc etc. Your said any modded Nissan 240Sx wouls walk anything else. You're still wrong! Look some millionaire spent a lot of $$ to make that car that fast and only 7.7 in 1/4 mile!!?? There are Stangs and Camaros that'll beat that in great numbers. Isn't funny how something convinces you yet when you still look around in the real world it's different. Wake up my point is and always will be in the streets don't assume you'll win everytime or your favorite machine will win everytime it doesn't happen like that. Those are the people who talk and talk then when it doesn't happen make excuses. Guys like Dick, now don't be a Dick.
nacho_nissan
05-11-2004, 05:11 PM
yeah man..thats a pretty fuckin fast nissan, but theres a S14 240SX running low 7's. and yes, i agree mustangs and camaros own the drag races. our little 4-banggers cant hang with them:( the supras would have more of a chance in drag world...
Filthy Sanchez
05-12-2004, 06:05 AM
yeah man..thats a pretty fuckin fast nissan, but theres a S14 240SX running low 7's. and yes, i agree mustangs and camaros own the drag races. our little 4-banggers cant hang with them:( the supras would have more of a chance in drag world...
I'm not really a fan of drag racing it's just on the street there seems to be nothing but. Supras do very well, and 300ZXs as well, every once in a while you'll see a Skyline here in the states and they fare well too. Mustangs and Camaros do well because building one to go fast doesn't take much $$. My point is there are deadly combos out there not just Stangs, Camaros, Vettes either. I've seen some wicked light weight 5.0 Miatas just reck havoc in the streets. Don't write off 4 bangers either, there may not be a lot of low end torque from 4 cylinders but a lot of high reving HP and some dam good 4 cylinder engines exist these days.
I'm not really a fan of drag racing it's just on the street there seems to be nothing but. Supras do very well, and 300ZXs as well, every once in a while you'll see a Skyline here in the states and they fare well too. Mustangs and Camaros do well because building one to go fast doesn't take much $$. My point is there are deadly combos out there not just Stangs, Camaros, Vettes either. I've seen some wicked light weight 5.0 Miatas just reck havoc in the streets. Don't write off 4 bangers either, there may not be a lot of low end torque from 4 cylinders but a lot of high reving HP and some dam good 4 cylinder engines exist these days.
kkiepvvessau
05-12-2004, 09:41 PM
the last post i didn't say anything about money cost
Did i said come to MOD ...
My point is japanese cars have more power than american cars without going into built v8 or V10
example let bring out japanese top v4
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
american Top V4
Neon Srt4 turbo
more... u name it, but i don't think any American V4 cars will come pass the s2000 stardard v4
Japanese V6
RX7,300ZX,SUPRA,3000GT,NSX
American
camero , mustang v6 3.8 l there are more cars
but i would say same thing no American v6 cars will past NSX
JAP v8
no make
american v8
mustang GT/Cobra/saleen
Did i said come to MOD ...
My point is japanese cars have more power than american cars without going into built v8 or V10
example let bring out japanese top v4
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
american Top V4
Neon Srt4 turbo
more... u name it, but i don't think any American V4 cars will come pass the s2000 stardard v4
Japanese V6
RX7,300ZX,SUPRA,3000GT,NSX
American
camero , mustang v6 3.8 l there are more cars
but i would say same thing no American v6 cars will past NSX
JAP v8
no make
american v8
mustang GT/Cobra/saleen
nacho_nissan
05-12-2004, 10:17 PM
the last post i didn't say anything about money cost
Did i said come to MOD ...
My point is japanese cars have more power than american cars without going into built v8 or V10
example let bring out japanese top v4
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
american Top V4
Neon Srt4 turbo
more... u name it, but i don't think any American V4 cars will come pass the s2000 stardard v4
Japanese V6
RX7,300ZX,SUPRA,3000GT,NSX
American
camero , mustang v6 3.8 l there are more cars
but i would say same thing no American v6 cars will past NSX
JAP v8
no make
american v8
mustang GT/Cobra/saleen
not wanting to be an ass, but none of the cars you listed have a "V4"! they have inline-4's, or 4flat! since when does the RX-7 use pistons? and i didnt know the supra had a V6. from what i know, it has a 6-inline! and theres a popular V8 japanese engine used to drag race, the 4.5l nissan engine. it is found in the J45. and actually, the fastest american drag car ive seen is a camaro! no-one even fixes up those V6 american engines.
Did i said come to MOD ...
My point is japanese cars have more power than american cars without going into built v8 or V10
example let bring out japanese top v4
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
american Top V4
Neon Srt4 turbo
more... u name it, but i don't think any American V4 cars will come pass the s2000 stardard v4
Japanese V6
RX7,300ZX,SUPRA,3000GT,NSX
American
camero , mustang v6 3.8 l there are more cars
but i would say same thing no American v6 cars will past NSX
JAP v8
no make
american v8
mustang GT/Cobra/saleen
not wanting to be an ass, but none of the cars you listed have a "V4"! they have inline-4's, or 4flat! since when does the RX-7 use pistons? and i didnt know the supra had a V6. from what i know, it has a 6-inline! and theres a popular V8 japanese engine used to drag race, the 4.5l nissan engine. it is found in the J45. and actually, the fastest american drag car ive seen is a camaro! no-one even fixes up those V6 american engines.
nacho_nissan
05-12-2004, 10:20 PM
example let bring out japanese top v4
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
what happened to the SR20DET?(altho its a inline-4)
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
what happened to the SR20DET?(altho its a inline-4)
Jimster
05-12-2004, 10:43 PM
the last post i didn't say anything about money cost
Did i said come to MOD ...
My point is japanese cars have more power than american cars without going into built v8 or V10
example let bring out japanese top v4
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
american Top V4
Neon Srt4 turbo
more... u name it, but i don't think any American V4 cars will come pass the s2000 stardard v4
Japanese V6
RX7,300ZX,SUPRA,3000GT,NSX
American
camero , mustang v6 3.8 l there are more cars
but i would say same thing no American v6 cars will past NSX
JAP v8
no make
american v8
mustang GT/Cobra/saleen
You REALLY need to read this site, you know almost nothing about cars. :rolleyes:
Did i said come to MOD ...
My point is japanese cars have more power than american cars without going into built v8 or V10
example let bring out japanese top v4
evo Vii+VIII, STI , S2000 , prelude type S
american Top V4
Neon Srt4 turbo
more... u name it, but i don't think any American V4 cars will come pass the s2000 stardard v4
Japanese V6
RX7,300ZX,SUPRA,3000GT,NSX
American
camero , mustang v6 3.8 l there are more cars
but i would say same thing no American v6 cars will past NSX
JAP v8
no make
american v8
mustang GT/Cobra/saleen
You REALLY need to read this site, you know almost nothing about cars. :rolleyes:
kkiepvvessau
05-12-2004, 11:48 PM
kool looser can't accept the fact , kakakaka
no cars you guys bring out to against wat a looser
anyway you guys are smart i just too dump that why i drive Jap cars. especially u Jimster u are super smart human being
i suggest you change your nick to master instead Jimster akakkkaka
no cars you guys bring out to against wat a looser
anyway you guys are smart i just too dump that why i drive Jap cars. especially u Jimster u are super smart human being
i suggest you change your nick to master instead Jimster akakkkaka
kkiepvvessau
05-12-2004, 11:51 PM
Jimster i don't think u can change timing belt
wow you sure know alot of things ...
wow you sure know alot of things ...
Jimster
05-13-2004, 12:31 AM
Jimster i don't think u can change timing belt
wow you sure know alot of things ...
Yep the timing belt in my "V4" Fiat Uno :rolleyes:
Oh yeah, it'd help if you spoke semi-comprehendable English. Oh and personal insults are not tolerated (Except when somebody says something 100% retarded), do it again and I'll ban you.
Thread closed, on the basis that it's going nowhere.
wow you sure know alot of things ...
Yep the timing belt in my "V4" Fiat Uno :rolleyes:
Oh yeah, it'd help if you spoke semi-comprehendable English. Oh and personal insults are not tolerated (Except when somebody says something 100% retarded), do it again and I'll ban you.
Thread closed, on the basis that it's going nowhere.
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