Skylines???

Whats the dealeo? Why the attraction? Every other thread I look at is a Skyline this R type or whatever or the other 648GT643 type...you get my drift. Whats the mystic surrounding this car? I love touring car racing especially the BTC but wy so many Skylines? I see the point when i look at NISMOS Xanavi R34 model, but all the road style cars coming from everyone ...what ups? Don't get me wrong there are some awesome builds, it's the subject manner I'm asking about.

It is one of the best all-around sports car in the world. Plus the models available to us are pretty nice as well....and since Nissan's are awesome I see nothing wrong. :)

But one of the biggest reasons is because a lot of people like Skylines. As Tonio so elequently puts it "build for yourself, no one else matters!"

BTW Everyone who reads this. Be on the look out for my Supra and Z-Tune R34 Skyline.

Yes I agree Nissans are awesome ..I bought the first (real car) of the new model 240Z as soon as they came out. There are so many after market add ons for Skyline kits (SAS) so I guess that makes people want to build Skylines even more. Just so many awesome builds of the same subject matter brought me to thinking what the heck is with a Skyline??? Funny thing is I remember reading in R&T back in the 80's when the Maxima was coming out and the new 240 was somewhere in between being released there was this wicked new sedan from Japan called the Skyline..we all wanted one. Now I'm into modeling some 15 years later and it's all the rage,

well i like skylines for their looks and power.
but i like rx-7s for the looks and tha rotary engine!

if i had a choice between an rx-7(FC or FD) or a gtr........ i got for a rx-7... but if it where a 4 door 34 gt-t....... i may go with that

It just reflects the preference of many AF members. No body forced them to build the Skyline.
If you go to other boards, all they talk about are either NASCAR, muscle car, rally car or drag racer.
It's just that the Skyline is one of many charismatic automobiles, and it's popular among many modelers. Plain and simple.

Its only one of the coolest cars around and we're a bunch of cool bastards!

I remember I was surprised too, when I came here for the firsts times, by the amount of skylines... But I felt nothing wrong. I must admit that in the same time I discovered JGTC and felt in love with the fabulous 2003 Calsonic GTR... (You can imagine how happy I've been when Tamiya has realeased its kit a few months later!...) Coming back to the topic, thanks to AF and its members for having made me discover the car, as it's not imported here in Europe...
But appart from the quality of the car itself, there are many reasons why skylines are popular in 1/24 scale kit modelers' world:
-it's japanese. The most important brands of models are japanese too, and their national market is the most important too.
-Tunning has grown, not only in 1:1, but also in 1/24. Drifting too. Which are the main cars concerned by these activities? Japanese ones. So again, RX-7, Supas, Imprezas, Silvias... and Skylines!
-The car is hot!
-If there were nothing on earth, what would you still see all around you, wherever you put your eyes? -The skyline. (Ok, this is stupid, I admit!) :lol:
-There are other cars and models forums on the net. Why has this one choosen this blue car to represent itself? >>>
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-AF members become quickly AF addicted... Logically, wherever they come from, they also become Skyline addicted. I try to resist myself, but I'm afraid I'm going to fall soon... But please don't help me! It's so good!

:lol:

There is so much to the Skyline, it has the history, and the performance it lives up to, it's a legendery car..!! On the market there are all the models, street, race, or tuned street. Im not much of a Skyline fan, but im getting more and more addicted, especially with so many variations, like the SAS offerings. It's one of the most customisable cars, and we all like to make it our own :) Skylines.... we love them..

If you have ever driven a Skyline you will know what it is about them. NISSAN's are cool.
I'm making another R34 now :)

^ and sometimes you know even without driving one. drive a couple cool SE-R's and you can only imagine the potentness of a GTR.


why do I like it?

-the block has had over 1500HP through it and never blown the stock bottom end. it is quite possibly the strongest bulletproof engine ever built.

-they smoke Mclaren F1's.

-first time you see one, you think.. kinda mustangish, ugly... lines aren't smooth like a ferrari. brute and muscular and unattractive? then it grows and grows and becomes beautiful in a completely different manor. pretty like a skyline.

-they are unique, and reflect Nissans passion and corperate culture. It is the epitome of what Nissan does; introducing cars unlike any other company and putting themselves out there on a chance. Nissan keeps other car companies on there toes. :D

-the first skyline's were built for a prince. good enough for royalty, good enough for me.

-The Skyline basically had to bow out gracefully from GT racing as every other car manufacturer admitted they could not beat it. period.

-Its a tuners dream (you can double the horsepower of that car and it will be comfortable with its power, it won't feel like its lost its edge)

-I am a Nissan nazi.

I'm not a big fan of the car, I just don't like it, even before I came to this site, There just something about the car and I I don't like. doubt if i'll even build a Skyline,

-first time you see one, you think.. kinda mustangish, ugly... lines aren't smooth like a ferrari. brute and muscular and unattractive? then it grows and grows and becomes beautiful in a completely different manor. pretty like a skyline.

-the first skyline's were built for a prince. good enough for royalty, good enough for me.



It was built for a prince??

I'm not a big fan of the car, I just don't like it, even before I came to this site, There just something about the car and I I don't like. doubt if i'll even build a Skyline,
ditto.

It was built for a prince??

well. actually thats not "exactly" correct.. :grinno:

fact is, in 1955 Tachikawa (Tachikawa Aircraft Company) changed it's name to the Prince Motor Company in honor of the Emperor of Japan Crown Prince Hirohita, and from then on the cars were sold as Princes.

Now the connection is, Nissan and Prince merged in 1966. (At the same time Toyota merged with Hino and Daihatsu.) Most of the Prince models were kept in production, but from 1967 on they were sold as Nissans or Datsuns. The Prince division still operates independently inside Nissan and is responsible for the Skyline range, including the awesome GT-R.

Technically, it was produced in honor of a Crown Prince.

sorry for incorrect information. :evillol:

I'm not a big fan of the car, I just don't like it, even before I came to this site, There just something about the car and I I don't like. doubt if i'll even build a Skyline,

Just so long as you and ProSStreet RESPECT it. We'll let you stay :naughty: :lol2:

I respect the car, I'm into AWD high horsepowers cars, If I see one pull of next to me at a light I not gonna even try to keep up with it. becouse there's no way in Hell I can. but I just don't know what I don't like about the car, but I am a big Nissan fan. expecially 180-240 SX's

It's a cool car. Period.:sunglasse

I respect the car, I'm into AWD high horsepowers cars, If I see one pull of next to me at a light I not gonna even try to keep up with it. becouse there's no way in Hell I can. but I just don't know what I don't like about the car, but I am a big Nissan fan. expecially 180-240 SX's

you know you secretly love it. :evillol:

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Well, the large thrust of interest and models here are Japanese tuners. And of those cars, one stands above the rest and that's the Skyline. Tuning is pretty unique in that it has a single car that stands for the entire movement; the performance tuners all the way to the show tuners all respect and love the car. I can't think of any other segment of automotive enthusiasm that has a single car that everyone agrees upon as being such a paragon (Well, classic lovers have the E-type...).

And personally, as powerful as the Skyline is, the NSX is hands down better. Anyone can make power, it takes something more to make it handle. Perfect 50/50 wieght distribution, perfectly balanced handling and power transfer, from a car without the fancy electronicly controlled AWD... Now that's man and machine together on the road.

And personally, as powerful as the Skyline is, the NSX is hands down better.

Opinion?

Opinion?

Depends on who you ask, so yeah.... But despite AWD, the NSX is definately a better handling car, that's a fact. The opinion comes in when you have to decide which you think makes a car better, handling or power. For me, well, go figure.

I finally crawled out from under a rock a couple of weeks ago. I am a muscle car guy and I don't know much about Nissan cars but after I saw pics of one and doing reading on them I like them very much. I can't wait to get my hands on one to build. :sunglasse

Charlie

Stange only a few hours ago I was out getting my tea (KFC) and a white R32 with a GT wing and R34 wheels in gold, Mines declas on the doors and a huge exhuast pulled along a side. AWESOME car, shame I was in the FTO not the 350Z, but nearer the less we have a quick chat at the lights, then off we vanished.........I NEED a R32, time to sell the FTO and get a old R32. GTR...The Japanese Supercar. :)

Depends on who you ask, so yeah.... But despite AWD, the NSX is definately a better handling car, that's a fact. The opinion comes in when you have to decide which you think makes a car better, handling or power. For me, well, go figure.

On a tight course the NSX will win. A full track with striaght and turns the Skyline will edge out the NSX and also the number of consistent laps. The comparison is stock (NSX) for US Stock (Skyline) per Rhys Millen's foot. Not bad when you consider the NSX is all aluminum and better balanced. But like you said the Skyline has a killer AWD system. Even when tuning for power the Skyline isn't going to be a slope or it wouldn't be such a dominate force.

I love the NSX myself. Having driven 2 thus far in my life. Awesome cars! The only thing that turns me off is that the NSX can't be tuned like a beast like the Skyline.

Must...resist...urge...to...build...Skyline...

Don't mind 'em but this forum has just about every possible variation covered. Only type's I'd be interested in building are the JGTC cars and Bathurst winner. All been done to exceedignly high standrds on this very forum, so I see no point repeating them.

I have ever watched a Japanese video clip on a 5-lap race which pitted the R34 Skyline V-Spec against R33 Skyline, RX-7 RS, NSX-S, NSX-S.Zero, Evo V GSR etc. It was a test race for the purpose of showing off the performance of the R34 V-Spec against the other performance Jap cars. The skyline managed to catch up (third from last) on starting grid (total 7 cars) all the way to finish in the second place. The RX-7 came first. I think given 2-3 more laps the Skyline might have taken first place. The NSX did very well but was not able to perform as well as the Skyline at the corners.

Personally, I love the Skyline R34. I was sort of influenced by AF when I began this hobby and noticed that of all the performance street vehicles the Skyline looks pretty original. The shape of the Skyline slowly grew on me. I love every inch and every curve of it. It is also a very "manly" car in terms of its looks. The body shape appears "muscular" in a gentle manner without looking absurd, ricey or weird. It has a shape which it can call its own without any pretext of trying to look like a Ferrari, Lamborghini or a Porsche. The Honda NSX is also very good looking.

The Bayside Blue version of the R34 is drop-dead gorgeous. It looks cool yet "comfortable" enough to "join the crowd" on the public roads. I would imagine driving a Ferrari or another branded super car will attract too much attention. But I feel that it is "just right" for a Skyline balancing looks while blending in with the rest of the traffic. :2cents:

you know you secretly love it. :evillol:

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dun really like the 33 as much as the 34 and 32

and also..... i like low sleek, strem line cars....... rx-7's =D

but dont get my wrong i luv skylines as well, not as much as rx-7's

I used to think the R-34 was very ugly then I changed my mind the more I saw them. My favorite is the R-32 for the raw beauty of it.:sunglasse

I like the skylines, eespecially the 2000GTR's those are probably my favorites over an R34. I'd probably kill for a factory VSPEC II NUR edition R34 with GM chmpagne paint. All stock, 2khp, don't matter. What I like about them is they aren't like a lowered honda with a fart cannon around every corner. My very rich freind's dad gave him an R33 gtr as a present like four years ago, and I love his car. Just dont like the fact that he lives far away and I hardly get to see it. All in all, the GTR is a great performance beast. AWD, 1500hp capable, I just dont like the puny 2.6L engine. If it were like 3, or 3.5 I'd love it even more.

As far as the models go, I think it's just they are built because they are nice cars, have a great reputation, and there's nothing that you can do to one (or any car in this case) and it not be cool in someones eyes.

i hear you all talking about "the raw power of the skyline" in actuallity the skyline only has 280 hp. i love the car but its not that special.

the only thing that makes the skyline what it is, is its strong engine and the fact it is turbo-charged.the turbo makes it very easy to get power out of it, without doing heavy mods to strengthen the engine.

stock though its an average daily driver car with a sports car soul. i hate people who think that the skylines are the fastest cars in the world stock (yes there are people this ignorant). this is mostly due to the fast and the furious.

although i would not be comparing this car to a ferrari on the road, ferrari's are exotics, this is a sporst car. with only 280 stock hp any ferrari can match or over power this car easily.

to sum it all up this car is an aggresive looking car with POTENTIAL. it may not be popular for this among people who are un-knowledgable about cars, but its how it made this car get popular to people who know tunning, and the tunners made it popular to the every day person.

I LOVE SKYLINE!

I like the IL6 and the HICASfour wheel steering.
Hrrrrrrrr.......... skyline............
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I love this picture. AF should put it in the smilies.

For info, all of the top Japanese sportscars including the GT-R are in effect either de-tuned or 'miss quoted' to 280Bhp due to the (recently cancelled I believe) 'gentlemens' agreement. Although many do actually produce slightly more than that. This is one factor in making many of these cars so tunable.

The max power allowed from a normal production car is 280Bhp. The max speed is also limited to 180Kph on all new Japanese market cars believe it or not. Hitting my Supras limiter racing a bloody escort soon convinced me to change that!

This is why so many cars are listed with around 280, Evo, STI, RX7, GT-R, 22b and so on.

Richie

i hear you all talking about "the raw power of the skyline" in actuallity the skyline only has 280 hp. i love the car but its not that special.

the only thing that makes the skyline what it is, is its strong engine and the fact it is turbo-charged.the turbo makes it very easy to get power out of it, without doing heavy mods to strengthen the engine.

stock though its an average daily driver car with a sports car soul. i hate people who think that the skylines are the fastest cars in the world stock (yes there are people this ignorant). this is mostly due to the fast and the furious.

although i would not be comparing this car to a ferrari on the road, ferrari's are exotics, this is a sporst car. with only 280 stock hp any ferrari can match or over power this car easily.

to sum it all up this car is an aggresive looking car with POTENTIAL. it may not be popular for this among people who are un-knowledgable about cars, but its how it made this car get popular to people who know tunning, and the tunners made it popular to the every day person.

agreed.

i reackon its only special in the fact that it can be tuned to produce sooo much power, also its the same as any other car it still uses pistons, thats y i think rx-7's and rx-8 are special, because they run under a completely different engine

ROTARY ALL THA WAY!!!!

280bhp is the gentlemens agreement. It's shaky to swear by that number.

Then again, any Skyline owner in the US isn't going to have a stock GT-R. Slight mods will puke out HP.

Yea, the gentlemens agreement. Like the Stingray vette it claimed like 380 hp (bare with me if I'm wrong), and dynoed a little over 500 or 450. If I had a GTR WITH a budget I'd have higher flow filters, maybe a fuel pump and rail upgrade. Not much...also, maybe two larger turbos. That'd be it for me.

i hear you all talking about "the raw power of the skyline" in actuallity the skyline only has 280 hp. i love the car but its not that special.

the only thing that makes the skyline what it is, is its strong engine and the fact it is turbo-charged.the turbo makes it very easy to get power out of it, without doing heavy mods to strengthen the engine.

stock though its an average daily driver car with a sports car soul. i hate people who think that the skylines are the fastest cars in the world stock (yes there are people this ignorant). this is mostly due to the fast and the furious.

although i would not be comparing this car to a ferrari on the road, ferrari's are exotics, this is a sporst car. with only 280 stock hp any ferrari can match or over power this car easily.

to sum it all up this car is an aggresive looking car with POTENTIAL. it may not be popular for this among people who are un-knowledgable about cars, but its how it made this car get popular to people who know tunning, and the tunners made it popular to the every day person.

that whole thing was :rolleyes:

some real inconsistancy in your thinking..

the turbo doesn't allow for more power without doing heavy mods. Its the RB26 block itself. they major engine components are bulletproof. turbo be damned, the stock block has held upwards of FIFTEEN HUNDRED HORSEPOWER without blowing up.

the stock turbo's themselves are good for about 450-550HP? someone correct me if Im wrong on that figure, I don't remember (nis.k.a. care to stab at that?). the compressors house ceramic turbine blades which can break off and get inhaled by the engine. If they are pushed past there recommended psi for a given amt. of time... BOOM.

average daily driver? since when did your camry or civic have 4-wheel steering? or even 4WD for that matter? this is as exotic as a Ferrari. the car retailed for over $90K. definately supercar catagory pricing. Now in Japan... maybe the locals don't swoon over the car, but Italians don't generally swoon over Ferrari's in Italy either. its different when you talk in terms of domestic market.

although i would not be comparing this car to a ferrari on the road, ferrari's are exotics, this is a sports car. with only 280 stock hp any ferrari can match or over power this car easily.

No. they are both GT cars. Grand touring cars.
Best motoring (cannot remember which volume) had the NISMO R34 GTR against a slew of "exotics". the 360 modena being one of them. also the NSX type-R was included. the Skyline edged out every car except the porsche 911 turbo. the skyline couldn't pass but obviously had the edge on the porsche, given another lap Skyline would surely have taken 1st place. In the porsche's defense, its tires were worn down more-so then the skylines. the 360 modena was BEHIND the skyline. now this GTR is the NISMO version rated around 400HP. anotherwords the car has been LIGHTLY tuned. gobs of potential left.

this isn't some faux ricermobile econobox hoisted to glory based on the fast and furious. I said it and will say it again... every car manufacturer that competed in GT racing (your precious Ferrari, Mclaren, Lambo, EVERYONE) ADMITTED they couldn't surpass the skyline's infinate potential. Nissan DOMINATED GT racing with the skyline.

...You musn't love it that much! that to me is particularly special. :screwy:

Slight mods will puke out HP.

That should have been the last comment in this thread. Except blueboost's response to weaponCIVIC (what an ironic name, considering) was necessary. So, one more time in case anyone missed what it is that makes the Skyline so special:

Slight mods will puke out HP.

Your approximation of the stock ceramics are correct. Low 500's with new injectors would be pushing it. Nismo uses on-ceramic turbos for the N1 RB26....among other goodies.

A little history on the R32. During the R32 development, it set a production car record at Nurburgring beating the previous record lap by 25 seconds. In FIA Group N the R32 won 3 straight years and 29 races in a row. Finally it was banned in Australia after attempts to slow it were unsuccessful (160kg/350lbs. of ballast/added weight and boost down to 19psi).

The R32 remains the smallest and lightest of the 3 but technology has made the Skyline handle better (R34).

Sorry Willimo......


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