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more power for 1999 accord 1.8 vtec


imran840
05-01-2004, 08:31 AM
how can i increase power of a 1999 accord 1.8 vtec without changing the internals? how much extra hp can the stock engine handle? i prefer a turbo but which one? nothing too expensive? also what is the engine code for this engine?

will either of these turbo's fit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=2476519247&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=2476400870&rd=1

what other parts will i need for these turbo's?

thanks

whtteg
05-01-2004, 10:20 AM
how can i increase power of a 1999 accord 1.8 vtec without changing the internals? how much extra hp can the stock engine handle? i prefer a turbo but which one? nothing too expensive? also what is the engine code for this engine?

will either of these turbo's fit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=2476519247&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33742&item=2476400870&rd=1

what other parts will i need for these turbo's?

thanks

Umm sorry man but your car does not have a 1.8 VTEC.

imran840
05-01-2004, 10:27 AM
i dont own a 1999 accord 1.8 vtec ayet. I am thinking of buying one. i used to have a accord type r about about a year ago but i sold it.

could someone help me about more power please?

whtteg
05-01-2004, 10:41 AM
Oh you live in the UK. Ok maybe they have a 1.8 vtec accord there but we don't here so it might be hard to get info from us. Most of us int he Honda/Acura forum live in the US and we always get scammed by the car manufactors, it seems like everybody gets the cool cars and we get stuck with the normal cars.

imran840
05-01-2004, 10:44 AM
could you give some links where i could get help from? surely all the 4cyl honda vtec's are similar in design??

whtteg
05-01-2004, 10:57 AM
Well the 4cyl accord's here have 2.2 liter motors. So not knowing what motor you have it is a little harder to help.

Do this go out and look at one and get the engine code from it and then we will be able to better help you for sure. The engine code is on the front (towards the front of the car) of the motor were the motor and the transmission bolt together.

imran840
05-01-2004, 11:02 AM
the engine code is F18B2.

whtteg
05-01-2004, 11:17 AM
the engine code is F18B2.


:sly: hmmmm Sorry man never heard of it. I wish I could help or stear you in the right direction but I have no clue who would know either.

imran840
05-01-2004, 12:45 PM
can anyone help me please?

imran840
05-01-2004, 01:50 PM
im probably going to get a turbo from a breakers yard. which turbo will fit? supra, eclipse, impreza???


intake manifold gaskets - $80,
turbo manifold $5
down pipe - $10
intercooler - $180
TO4 or turbo- £300
wastgate - $310, wastegate dump tube
intercooler piping - $130
blow off valve - $30
bypass valve - $40
cold air intake - $50

are the TO3 and TO4 turbo's ok? which do i need? i need one which does not need the internals changing?

how much boost can i safely run without changing the internals?

TO4 turbo' are much common on Ebay.

thanks

turbo2nr
05-01-2004, 02:48 PM
turbo maninfold $5?, down pipe $10 wtf!!where?? that has to be a typo..
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imran840
05-01-2004, 02:58 PM
sorry the turbo manifold is $180 and the im getting a downpipe from a friend for about £5 which is $10.

the total works out at over $1000. i have been told that saab parts will fit honda's. can i substitute any of the parts above with Saab parts? like intercooler???

also have i listed parts that i will not need?

thanks

imran840
05-01-2004, 05:00 PM
someone help please?

DeleriousZ
05-01-2004, 06:06 PM
new fuel management.. you can't forget fuel management.. you might want to get some new injectors maybe 310cc or something, new fuel pump just to be safe, higher flow fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator.. i'm sure i've forgotten something.. i'd recommend getting all of that just in case you want to upgrade later

imran840
05-01-2004, 06:38 PM
i dont want to upgrade later. just want the parts that will give me enough power without changing internals? how much extra bhp can the stock internals handle?

imran840
05-02-2004, 05:55 AM
can someone else help me please?

imran840
05-03-2004, 07:24 AM
can someone help me please????

RX_speed
05-04-2004, 12:27 AM
If you want to save money on an intercooler you could try to find a good condition stock one from a lancer evolution, MKIII supra, Mitsubishi Starion/ Chrysler Conquest SAABs etc...

1st and 2nd generation eclipse's have good stock turbos that you could use, but the 2nd generation turbo (T25). You could use a 1G eclipse BOV to save some $$$ too.

imran840
05-04-2004, 11:07 AM
thanks for that. What does BOV stand for and my main question is that how much extra bhp can the engine handle without changing the internals? (about 140 stock)

also most of the parts i mentioned are universal so they can fit on any car but im strugling to find a turbo and exhaust manifold. i think i will need a custom one. can i have some onfo in this and any links??

thanks

imran840
05-05-2004, 11:10 AM
can someone help me please??

also most of the parts on the list are universal. which parts from the list will i need to get just for an accord? defo the manifold, what else?

Buzz1167
05-05-2004, 10:10 PM
The manifold will need to be specific for your car, but depending on how much your willining and/or able to fabricate, nothing else is proprietary. If you buy just intercooler tubing, you can cut and connect pieces to make it fit, but chances are, no other car will have tubing enough like your setup to just bolt it on. The turbo can be one of many, as long as it will bolt onto the end of your header, they have different flanges, so that will be a factor. The intercooler is whatever you want it to be, as long as it will fit, itll be fine unless its blocking too much of your radiator, which usually isnt a problem, especially if it doesnt get very hot. I noticed that you said you were going to buy a CAI w/your turbo; I hope you mean just the piece that goes to the turbo intake, becuase the term "Cold Air Intake" is the intake for non turbo engine.
And I see that the fuel management was kind of overlooked after delerious recommended it, but you really cant do that. With more air for the engine, it needs more fuel, even if it is a primitive setup like a Rising rate regulator. I'm sure that people have run without any changes but its definately not recommended, and really its the only reason my turbo isnt on my car right now.
It's really not possible to tell how much power your engine can handle, however I must say; with no modifications except a turbo, I don't forsee it lasting very long. But realistically, you could put out 200hp before Id worry about the stock internals being a problem. Keep in mind that a well tuned engine can put out more HP, safer. If the engine is poorly tuned, it could blow up making another 10hp.
BOV means Blow Off Valve, it releases excess boost so that you dont get too much if you were to shift or let off the gas quickly (alot of other situations also).

HTH
Buzz1167
Jon N

RX_speed
05-06-2004, 02:01 AM
If you cant find a manifold for your engine then you may have to get one custom made, and as Buzz1167 mentioned I forgot about fuel which is extremely important. You would need better injectors such as 450cc DSM injectors (from 1st and 2nd gen turbo eclipses/talons) and fuel management (look up apexi S-AFC)

imran840
05-06-2004, 11:23 AM
if i change the injectors, is that a big job? how muuch do the injectors cost?

RX_speed
05-07-2004, 01:15 AM
changing the injectors is very simiple, and some used DSM injectors may run you about $100 or less it depends on where you look.

imran840
05-07-2004, 12:58 PM
with the new injectors will the engine now handle more than 200bhp safely on the stock internals?

also the engine code is F18B2, so can i get and turbo for a F series and will it fit?

thanks

Buzz1167
05-07-2004, 08:08 PM
You can get a header for your f series, and a turbo that will bolt onto whatever flange the header has on it (they have some different types, and youll have to ask whoever you buy the header from, what will bolt directly on.) But you really cant expect to get a lot of preformance without putting much effort into this, you can't just bolt on a turbo and expect to magicially have tons of horsepower. I would be weary of running enough boost to get 200hp w/ just injectors, the car wasn't made for a turbo and you will have to do some other stuff; like adding check valves to get the car to run properly w/o an electrical solution (like an s-afc or v-afc). W/o any other solution than injectors (depending on your ECU) its not really possible to tune the car. But if you are really going to do only a few things, bigger injectors with a new fuel pump is a good start, the car will probably be able to idle them o.k., but I dont know how it will handle the extra fuel when your not flooring it, the ecu will only compensate so much, I would figure out how much you want to boost this car and then get a better idea of the size of the injectors you need dependant on the pressure you want to run, you definatly want to change them(or the pressure) but you dont want to immediately go overkill. I (we) really need a better idea of what you want from this upgrade.

Buzz1167
Jon N

erastusboy
05-09-2004, 12:50 AM
are you sure its an f18b and not a b18 i say go back and clean it up and check again cause that woudl change everything

imran840
05-09-2004, 07:06 AM
im 100% sure its a f18b

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