cant stand those who think cavs&civics can hang

my friend who doesnt know shit about cars especially his thought his z24 cavalier could hang with my 3000 it was sad way more than 4 car lengths. they talk crap but i just dont get it there cars are slow unless theyve got 2500+ in mods theyre in some kinda slow car denial or somethin.

I prefer to call it F&F syndrome....

lol no kidding these guys are nuts, its like a chihuahua messin with a pit bull it just doesnt work

2 stories come to mind:

1) one night i went to a place with a bunch of other cars that was real out of the way so we could drag. i did not really want to run but just watch and see what it was all about. anyway, so i was trying to be friendy and i asked another person there which car was theirs. they pointed to a cavalier and said that one. i said right on, what can you run in that? he replied 12's. and i was like wtf?!?!?!? but i really just said right on and walked away. anyway, some people convinced me to run and i ran once against some car and won easily but going into 2nd gear i got a horrible grinding noise (that was when my 2nd gear synchro went out). then after that i went one more time and i was lined up against the "12 sec" cava-lier. i was parked on the side of the road in some mud before that so on the launch i launched as normal but spun the wheels for about a second (one second off of my 1/4 mile) then i took off (mind you my friend was also riding shotgun) and again i had problems going into 2nd that cost me at least another second. so that is a normal 1/4 mile for me only add on 2 seconds and a passenger. i still beat him by at least a few carlengths.

so if my mods are any indication of what i SHOULD run than i should have been at about 13.7 up here (~6000 feet) and tack on, lets say 2.3 seconds (the other .3 for the passenger and the fact that the 2nd gear shift took me over a second) and that is a 16 sec 1/4 mile. and he was way behind me still. 12 sec car my ass :rolleyes:


2) ok this one is a lot shorter. i was cruzing around one night at a local cruze strip and a late 80ish beat up looking accord pulls up to me at a light. he says "does that thing have a turbo?" i reply "two of them acctually." he responds "you wanna race?" i am thinking that this guy is the biggest fool in the world for even asking but i am trying not to be rude so i say "no i have to wait until i fix my tranny before i race anymore" which was the truth because this was after the 2nd gear synchro went out and the 1st gear synchro had been out for a while. but seriously, wtf was this guy thinking? i could have run a 1/4 mile in the time it took him to run an 1/8 :loser: :lol:

stupid kids :nono:

yea i was at a stop light about aa week ago and a civic with about 4 sIR badge lines up starts to rev on me i let him go first started off in second and still beat him handily, i strated in second just to see if i could do it well it worked. good job bro keep killin those wannabees

one more thought. i at least try to keep this in mind. if i saw a ferrari and i was bpu or something, i would still want to race it even though i would get my ass handed to me. it would just be cool to see what i could do against a ferrari. maybe that is how these kids feel about our cars... then again, if they are dumb they probably just think hey, my civic could beat that heavy pos, just like the civics in the f&tf :rolleyes:

yea im going to race a buddies ss camaro just to see how i hold up, but i agrree with you on that thought

if i am not mistaken, a good tune ss and a good tune vr-4 should be about equal in the 1/4 with equal drivers.

yea but ive only got a slightly modded SL so im going to get beat the question is how bad?

Bad

no kidding but i still just want to see cus hes a bad driver hes only had it for a week

well anything can happen, you always have a chance, good luck.

i will need it and i dont expect to win i jus hope i dont get humiliated

yea but ive only got a slightly modded SL so im going to get beat the question is how bad?

So are you running about a 7-8s 0-60?

no smart ass im not so quit harrassing me at every forum im listing in, im running like 6.8 thank you :thefinger just because your full of bull and you think headers and exhaust make your comp gtp run with vr4's and i called you on your BS dont get pissed and post annoying immature messages.

no smart ass im not so quit harrassing me at every forum im listing in, im running like 6.8 thank you :thefinger just because your full of bull and you think headers and exhaust make your comp gtp run with vr4's and i called you on your BS dont get pissed and post annoying immature messages.


You are a MORON did you even look at the links to 100s of GPs running sub 5second 0-60s? I can run 4.95s 0-60 on the street and at the track. My 1/8 mile is 9.1 @80.9 which equates to a 5.0s 0-60 and that is with a 2.77 60'.

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/7/web/391000-391999/391610_141.jpg

I have headers, full 2.5" exhaust, 1.9 ratio Rockers, 3.25 SC pulley, Cold air intake, and the cat removed. And guess what? I can stomp any stock 3000GT from 0-60.



LOOK AT THE 1/4 mile listings and see how easily $100 can get you into the 13s or low 14s. $1500 can get you into the 12s.
List of clubgp 1/4 mile times (http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmile.asp)

It sucks to be a complete fool doesn't it?

here is a list of some modded 2004 GPs with track times.

1) 13.51 @ 104.5mph *Cperki1--------------[S1X cam, 3.0, LRI, Catback, Headers, Race gas]
2) 13.54 @ 102.3mph *Turbo996------------[1.8s, 3.25, CAI, Catback, Headers, Race gas]
3) 13.68 @ 100.9mph *Zero Obliquity------[1.9s, 3.25, FWI, Catback, Race gas]
4) 13.97 @ 100.6mph *Forcefedjunkie-----[1.9s, 3.4, LRI, Race gas]
5) 14.03 @ 101.9mph *jamhoney------------[1.9s, 3.25, FWI, Catback, Headers, Racegas]
6) 14.20 @ 96.50mph *Fluid------------------[3.4, LRI, Race gas]
7) 14.30 @ 97.45mph *Charles Tate-------[3.25, LRI, Catback, Race gas]
8) 14.32 @ 98.36mph *SmokeYa------------[3.4, CAI]
9) 14.33 @ 96.80mph *GPAddict-------------[3.4, FWI]
10)14.56 @ 93.72mph *Albino GTP---------[STOCK]
11)14.72 @ 93.04mph *fast_eddy-----------[3.4]
12)14.79 @ 92.36mph *perdieu--------------[STOCK, @1100ft]
13)14.81 @ 92.60mph *thestickboy---------[STOCK]
14)14.90 @ 92.01mph *team rental---------[Weight reduction]
15)15.00 @ 9X.00mph *FrogmanDAve-----[3.4, CAI]
16)15.15 @ 94.33mph *04COMPG----------[3.4, CAI, @1500ft]


So are you claiming the hundreds of Grand prixs on clubgp have a conspiracy to claim faster times?

OMG , dude give it a rest and i cant even read your little palm pilot and francly it doesnt prove anything and those gtp's have a lot more mods than you, im sure your car is very fast but go race a stock vr4 which run 13.4's and then tell me how you can beat any stock 3000 :nono: .

you are to bold my friend.

ok i believe you lets stop arguing :disappoin

Are you blind "they have more mods than me?" I AM ON THE FREAKIN LIST (jamhoney)

I will be running a 13s time this wednesday and will get it on video to post for you DUMBASS. I could have beat your car in my 3.4L 95 Lumina.

gO LOOK AT THE RACING POST I SMOKED A CAMARO THERE ARE OTHERS CALLIN YOUR BS

AND BY THE WAY THE LIST DONT MEAN SHIT

the physics arent possible

now thats hilarious you could beat my 3000 in a lumina :rofl: :lol: :lol2: :grinno: :bs:

gO LOOK AT THE RACING POST I SMOKED A CAMARO THERE ARE OTHERS CALLIN YOUR BS

Yeah go look and hopefully you can figure out how to type in an 1/8 mile conversion to 0-60 to see for yourself. My track slip will be up soon Bitch.

so your modded car that runs 14's and will soon brake into the 13's is faster than my car that runs 13.5 stock?

Your also faster than us 0-60?, when we pull 1.8-2.0 60' with 13.5@105ish quarter mile times and you pull a 2.77 60' and [email protected] in the quarter mile. You do know we pull a 4.8 second 0-60 right?

Im really confused with your logic.

Dont take this as my saying a GTP cant run 12's. I know someone that has one. But we can run 12's with a boost controler and gutted cats. Total cost, about $100 with boost gauge. That is slightly lower than then $1500 it takes you.

One more thought that comes to mind. With about $1500 you can do a twin turbo conversion to a base or SL model and run 12's. SO his car was cheeper than yours, and can be made faster for about the same in mods. Ill go ahead and quote you on this one "It sucks to be a complete fool doesn't it?"

so your modded car that runs 14's and will soon brake into the 13's is faster than my car that runs 13.5 stock?

I was talking about the 3000GT not the VR-4 3000GT. Not all VR-4s run 4.8 0-60 aren't most years stock in the mid 5s 0-60? Sorry for the confusion. I would like to race a VR-4 at the track and see how bad it turns out though. Do you have a track time for your car?

One more thought that comes to mind. With about $1500 you can do a twin turbo conversion to a base or SL model and run 12's. SO his car was cheeper than yours, and can be made faster for about the same in mods. Ill go ahead and quote you on this one "It sucks to be a complete fool doesn't it?"

This is not being disputed. He doesn't have $1500 in mods and is slow as fvck. He is calling my times out and is wrong. I do have a [email protected] 1/8 mile with the slip right in front of me. If you know a guy with a GTP then you know with my mods I could possibly get a 13.5s 1/4. SO WHAT THE FVCK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

I was just quoting stock times for the 3000GT. I have never been to the track and my car isnt running right now, so I cant take it.

As a general rule, when compairing cars stats you compair the top models of each, not top model vs slowest model. I was letting you know what the top model stock numbers were. It did not sound to me that 3ksl95 was saying sl's are faster than gtp's, he was saying a 3000GT is faster than a Grand Prix, so the obvious compairison would be VR4 vs GTP.

not only that but 3kgtsl95 said vr4 atleast twice.
i also think its kinda ingorant to chase him into every board he goes to just o=to try and argue, if you wanto to ague like that pm him so he has the option of speaking to you or not. i think what he was trna say is with headers and exhaust and intake which would give you know more than 25hp, your numbers shouldn't have droped by 1.5 sec.

btw racing gas helps a hellovalot, thats why i believe your times.

I also have had 1.9 rockers and a 3.25 pulley listed the whole freaking time those two mods add the most HP.

Again, I am not disputing which car is faster, I am defending my shitty [email protected] 1/4 mile time and my shitty [email protected] 1/8 mile time. My car is actually pretty slow for the amount of mods done to it.

I also have had 1.9 rockers and a 3.25 pulley listed the whole freaking time those two mods at the most HP.

Again, I am not disputing which car is faster, I am defending my shitty [email protected] 1/4 mile time and my shitty [email protected] 1/8 mile time. My car is actually pretty slow for the amount of mods done to it.

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