85db
boomtheroom
01-14-2002, 03:51 AM
whats this sh...t about no exhausts allowed to be over 85 db in nz
law comming in??
law comming in??
tazdev
01-14-2002, 03:56 AM
the law has as far as I am aware always been there but now Sherrif Wanksie is in town they are actulally going to police it
=ByTcHS|AppA=
01-14-2002, 04:00 AM
All I can say is :finger: :flipa: :finger: :flipa: :finger: . Down with the commie bastards.....:devil:
GTS-4 Ben
01-14-2002, 04:28 AM
Just the same BS, to get money. I don't care, most Turbo cars can be quite and still fast.
Too bad for rotaries :p
Too bad for rotaries :p
SDUCentral
01-14-2002, 04:53 AM
Hell Im looking forward to this....they seriously expect to legally enforce such crap after determining what is legal and what is not through the use of a cheap and nasty DB meter commonly available to the masses....within an uncontrolled environment??
What a joke....but hey its all in the name of road safety!!
NOT
What a joke....but hey its all in the name of road safety!!
NOT
MIC 80
01-14-2002, 06:37 AM
:mad: Thats just bull shit revenue raising, & the cop has the discretion to book you or not(PRICKS). In Queensland thats in Oz the db max is 96 but I have not knowen of the cops to inforce it, my brother has a little 323 wagon with a 13B Bridge port & it is hell loud, he has never been booked for it, that I know of at lest.:mad:
vspecv
01-14-2002, 07:44 AM
i just got busted by the epa in melb.i didne think it was that loud.it was 96db.but even with standard exhaust it was 89db which is the limit in melb
R31Heaven
01-14-2002, 07:53 AM
So does this mean they are going after every Harley rider/owner out there, if they dont I think we have a claim for discrimanation. I think this would piss off severly some bikey groups. Good for one good for every one else. I know they say that is how they are made but if here is a limit everyone must adhere to it...
GraemeWi
01-14-2002, 01:31 PM
It's a shame the other forum is down at the moment - Brite-eyes' posted the legal wording on there, and I posed part of the ISO for car exhaust noise testing. The car has to be tested in accordance with an ISO / BS standard (and I really doubt if there are many places in NZ who can actually comply with the ISO test procedure).
From what I understand it is very difficult to estimate sound levels with any degree of accuracy. My exhaust isn't that loud and I don't want the threat of being pink stickered every time I drive to work. I'll be watching this issue to see how the NZ Police are going to enforce it.
GW
From what I understand it is very difficult to estimate sound levels with any degree of accuracy. My exhaust isn't that loud and I don't want the threat of being pink stickered every time I drive to work. I'll be watching this issue to see how the NZ Police are going to enforce it.
GW
Brenhan
01-14-2002, 01:52 PM
85 db is about as loud as someone clapping . the police wont be able to follow correct guidelines anyway , it said on the news they are going to test the sound from the exhaust tip , not 1 metre away , not to the side , they will test it at the tip , if it ever hapens to me I am going to demand the police car is tested in the same way. they should have a drive by test , like 5m away from the car to the side , that is the standard elsewhere.
moondog
01-14-2002, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by R31Heaven
So does this mean they are going after every Harley rider/owner out there, if they dont I think we have a claim for discrimanation. I think this would piss off severly some bikey groups. Good for one good for every one else. I know they say that is how they are made but if here is a limit everyone must adhere to it...
I believe the limit is higher for bikes and trucks... go figure :rolleyes:
So does this mean they are going after every Harley rider/owner out there, if they dont I think we have a claim for discrimanation. I think this would piss off severly some bikey groups. Good for one good for every one else. I know they say that is how they are made but if here is a limit everyone must adhere to it...
I believe the limit is higher for bikes and trucks... go figure :rolleyes:
SlowGts-t
01-14-2002, 02:14 PM
Does it apply to trucks and other road vehicles too? I think most diesel vehicles would fail the 85db at idle.
Er.. where does it say its 85db?
Er.. where does it say its 85db?
moondog
01-14-2002, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by SlowGts-t
Does it apply to trucks and other road vehicles too? I think most diesel vehicles would fail the 85db at idle.
Er.. where does it say its 85db?
this discussion happened a while back on SDU. Someone (can't remember who) posted the regulations, and as I recall it was 85 db for cars, and 90 db for bikes and trucks.
Does it apply to trucks and other road vehicles too? I think most diesel vehicles would fail the 85db at idle.
Er.. where does it say its 85db?
this discussion happened a while back on SDU. Someone (can't remember who) posted the regulations, and as I recall it was 85 db for cars, and 90 db for bikes and trucks.
darkness
01-14-2002, 02:35 PM
i say we find a decibel meter and do our own tests just to prove how sh**ty such a method is.
but looking at it this way, all those rotangs on the road are a s**tload louder than most of our cars.
:badass:
but looking at it this way, all those rotangs on the road are a s**tload louder than most of our cars.
:badass:
RazorGTR
01-14-2002, 03:22 PM
This is all tied into the elimation of the boy racers syndrom that seems to be spreading like wild fire. Now think about what I am saying here.
In Auckland they have already closed the Museume to PARKING between 10pm and 6am! I mean your not driving around creating traffic backups, noise of any kind, or disturbing anyone. Yet they are already taking away the larger areas to meet up. This again was due to fuckwits on Queenstreet and Quay street.
They have the new impact standars law going into effect next month. That would eliminate most of the cars younger drivers can afford. Boy Racers if you will.
Noise DB law. Take away the performance exhaust systems and they have no way to show off without loud systems. While I agree something needs to be done about the rotags (N/A ones) that is just fucked. Most of your V8's even factory standard ones produce more than that! Hey mental note here. They will not be able to sell the HSV's, Senators, or club sport V8's anymore then or see them on the streets! Yeah !!!
The car clubs and enthusiasts need to band together for a change and voice our oppinions. Start patitions, demonstrate, what ever!
My $2 worth.
In Auckland they have already closed the Museume to PARKING between 10pm and 6am! I mean your not driving around creating traffic backups, noise of any kind, or disturbing anyone. Yet they are already taking away the larger areas to meet up. This again was due to fuckwits on Queenstreet and Quay street.
They have the new impact standars law going into effect next month. That would eliminate most of the cars younger drivers can afford. Boy Racers if you will.
Noise DB law. Take away the performance exhaust systems and they have no way to show off without loud systems. While I agree something needs to be done about the rotags (N/A ones) that is just fucked. Most of your V8's even factory standard ones produce more than that! Hey mental note here. They will not be able to sell the HSV's, Senators, or club sport V8's anymore then or see them on the streets! Yeah !!!
The car clubs and enthusiasts need to band together for a change and voice our oppinions. Start patitions, demonstrate, what ever!
My $2 worth.
darkness
01-14-2002, 05:29 PM
yeah i think we should get in touch with everybody, toyspeed, silvia, honda club, auckland car club and see what they think
RazorGTR
01-14-2002, 06:18 PM
Agreed sounds like a plan we should follow through with.
GraemeWi
01-14-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Brenhan
85 db is about as loud as someone clapping . the police wont be able to follow correct guidelines anyway , it said on the news they are going to test the sound from the exhaust tip , not 1 metre away , not to the side , they will test it at the tip , if it ever hapens to me I am going to demand the police car is tested in the same way. they should have a drive by test , like 5m away from the car to the side , that is the standard elsewhere.
Grrrr - the ISO test is done with the DB thingie mounted about 1 meter high and a couple of meters sideways from the test. The car enters the area in 3rd gear and drives past. I can see the police turning the noise test into a complete farce.
My thoughts are that it could be contested in court - if the police can't do a test that will stand up in court (ie to ISO standards) the case will get pushed out.
Once I find out a bit more about this issue I'll be writing a few letters to government ministers asking for clarification. Anyone have a link to the news article?
85 db is about as loud as someone clapping . the police wont be able to follow correct guidelines anyway , it said on the news they are going to test the sound from the exhaust tip , not 1 metre away , not to the side , they will test it at the tip , if it ever hapens to me I am going to demand the police car is tested in the same way. they should have a drive by test , like 5m away from the car to the side , that is the standard elsewhere.
Grrrr - the ISO test is done with the DB thingie mounted about 1 meter high and a couple of meters sideways from the test. The car enters the area in 3rd gear and drives past. I can see the police turning the noise test into a complete farce.
My thoughts are that it could be contested in court - if the police can't do a test that will stand up in court (ie to ISO standards) the case will get pushed out.
Once I find out a bit more about this issue I'll be writing a few letters to government ministers asking for clarification. Anyone have a link to the news article?
R31Heaven
01-14-2002, 06:40 PM
I am sure there are enought people in car clubs and owner of modified cars to actualy have some political clout I am sure. The problem with partitions are they are never get looked at, just filed in some filing cabinet for the years to come. What is needed is a draft letter be made up place it on the web, every one download it and sign it, then post it to the local polys. As it being a letter they have to read it .... :flipa:
GraemeWi
01-14-2002, 07:02 PM
Nah partitions don't work in NZ.
If you send a letter or email to a MP, by law they have to at least reply to let you know they got it. I've written a few both snail mail and email (though my most recent email exchange with the minister of fisheries dept was like banging my head against a wall only not as productive and fun)
If you send a letter or email to a MP, by law they have to at least reply to let you know they got it. I've written a few both snail mail and email (though my most recent email exchange with the minister of fisheries dept was like banging my head against a wall only not as productive and fun)
moondog
01-14-2002, 11:49 PM
[anal spelling monster] "petition", maybe??? [/anal spelling monster]
:D :rolleyes: :D
:D :rolleyes: :D
RazorGTR
01-14-2002, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by moondog
[anal spelling monster] "petition", maybe??? [/anal spelling monster]
:D :rolleyes: :D
Ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :smoker2:
[anal spelling monster] "petition", maybe??? [/anal spelling monster]
:D :rolleyes: :D
Ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :smoker2:
SPECTR
01-14-2002, 11:59 PM
maybe i should get my exhaust to 85.9 DB then see what happens!!
RazorGTR
01-15-2002, 12:04 AM
Hahaha shit stirrer number 1 of the day.
SPECTR
01-15-2002, 12:10 AM
i should get it set to 84.9 recurring!!:flash: :flash:
SlowGts-t
01-15-2002, 02:14 PM
Hmm do diesel 4wd's qualify as cars or trucks? Would they all fail too?
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