Newbie to tegy's
Johnny Groovez
04-28-2004, 11:05 PM
Sup forum,
I been lookin at a bunch of integras to buy hopefully soon, some GSR most LS . . Gsr's for some reason are hard for me to find at the right price and mileage . . so i think imma go with the LS model . . i know 140HP aint much . . is there anything i can do to an LS tegy to make it a bad ass car . . i heard LS is great for turbo and LS/V-tec . . any other ideas?
I been lookin at a bunch of integras to buy hopefully soon, some GSR most LS . . Gsr's for some reason are hard for me to find at the right price and mileage . . so i think imma go with the LS model . . i know 140HP aint much . . is there anything i can do to an LS tegy to make it a bad ass car . . i heard LS is great for turbo and LS/V-tec . . any other ideas?
KoRnboy
04-29-2004, 12:06 AM
Supercharger! :evillol::evillol::evillol::evillol:
:naughty::smokin:
Peace.
:naughty::smokin:
Peace.
BreakerZero0
04-29-2004, 05:05 PM
Newbie!!!!!!
scallywag
04-29-2004, 05:09 PM
An ls/vtec turbo would be cool. If you do go FI then I would suggest turbo over supercharger.
whtteg
04-29-2004, 05:12 PM
Newbie!!!!!!
What is wrong with you? Are you 13 yrs old or something? :disappoin
Now for constructive advice. A turbo LS would be a great choice IMHO. The LS will be cheaper and easier to attain and also easier and cheaper to boost. But if you want a fast car and don't have a huge wallet and don't want to use FI then the LS is not for you. The LS in N/A forum can be fast but it will take more money than the GSR, alot more. But if boost is your game then the LS will do just fine ;)
What is wrong with you? Are you 13 yrs old or something? :disappoin
Now for constructive advice. A turbo LS would be a great choice IMHO. The LS will be cheaper and easier to attain and also easier and cheaper to boost. But if you want a fast car and don't have a huge wallet and don't want to use FI then the LS is not for you. The LS in N/A forum can be fast but it will take more money than the GSR, alot more. But if boost is your game then the LS will do just fine ;)
casperGSR
04-29-2004, 05:30 PM
What is wrong with you? Are you 13 yrs old or something? :disappoin
Now for constructive advice. A turbo LS would be a great choice IMHO. The LS will be cheaper and easier to attain and also easier and cheaper to boost. But if you want a fast car and don't have a huge wallet and don't want to use FI then the LS is not for you. The LS in N/A forum can be fast but it will take more money than the GSR, alot more. But if boost is your game then the LS will do just fine ;)
didn't you look at his post count... he has 14, that gives him right to call other people newbies because he isn't anymore... :wink:
I say turbo it... oh wait I always say turbo it...
Now for constructive advice. A turbo LS would be a great choice IMHO. The LS will be cheaper and easier to attain and also easier and cheaper to boost. But if you want a fast car and don't have a huge wallet and don't want to use FI then the LS is not for you. The LS in N/A forum can be fast but it will take more money than the GSR, alot more. But if boost is your game then the LS will do just fine ;)
didn't you look at his post count... he has 14, that gives him right to call other people newbies because he isn't anymore... :wink:
I say turbo it... oh wait I always say turbo it...
whtteg
04-29-2004, 05:39 PM
didn't you look at his post count... he has 14, that gives him right to call other people newbies because he isn't anymore... :wink:
Yea I don't know what I was thinking, 14 posts mean you posses enough knowledge to go around and call people newbies even though under your username it says "AF Newbie" LOL. BreakerZero0 don't take this personal but we would like to keep non-constructive posts to yourself. If you don't have anything constructive or complimentive to say then don't reply please.
Yea I don't know what I was thinking, 14 posts mean you posses enough knowledge to go around and call people newbies even though under your username it says "AF Newbie" LOL. BreakerZero0 don't take this personal but we would like to keep non-constructive posts to yourself. If you don't have anything constructive or complimentive to say then don't reply please.
scallywag
04-29-2004, 07:01 PM
How much do you want to spend?
KoRnboy
04-29-2004, 10:23 PM
My Mechanic and I were talking yesterday and he says he had a supercharger on his Teg and it worked great... You don't have to re-route oil lines and shit and you get cold air into the engine not re-routed warm air... plus I can run a 7 PSI supercharger with out building my engine first so I can have about 240 HP (rough guess) and not kill my engine till I can build it...
whtteg
04-30-2004, 02:02 PM
My Mechanic and I were talking yesterday and he says he had a supercharger on his Teg and it worked great... You don't have to re-route oil lines and shit and you get cold air into the engine not re-routed warm air... plus I can run a 7 PSI supercharger with out building my engine first so I can have about 240 HP (rough guess) and not kill my engine till I can build it...
Actually your mechanic is wrong, superchargers have alot of friction and thus generate heat. They will not be blowing cold air by and means. Also a turbo does not redirect hot air. Where did you get that from? The air that the turbo pushes out gets the heat from the turbo housing, but that is why you use a intercooler, can't use a intercooler with a JRSC. Also the SC will put extra strain on you front crankshaft bearings, a turbo won't put any extra strain of that nature on anything. Turbo will always come out on top in small displacement motors. Also tell me why you would want to use something that takes away hp to make hp rather than something that is much more efficent and just makes hp? But I guess to each his own.
Actually your mechanic is wrong, superchargers have alot of friction and thus generate heat. They will not be blowing cold air by and means. Also a turbo does not redirect hot air. Where did you get that from? The air that the turbo pushes out gets the heat from the turbo housing, but that is why you use a intercooler, can't use a intercooler with a JRSC. Also the SC will put extra strain on you front crankshaft bearings, a turbo won't put any extra strain of that nature on anything. Turbo will always come out on top in small displacement motors. Also tell me why you would want to use something that takes away hp to make hp rather than something that is much more efficent and just makes hp? But I guess to each his own.
scallywag
04-30-2004, 02:07 PM
Actually your mechanic is wrong, superchargers have alot of friction and thus generate heat. They will not be blowing cold air by and means. Also a turbo does not redirect hot air. Where did you get that from? The air that the turbo pushes out gets the heat from the turbo housing, but that is why you use a intercooler, can't use a intercooler with a JRSC. Also the SC will put extra strain on you front crankshaft bearings, a turbo won't put any extra strain of that nature on anything. Turbo will always come out on top in small displacement motors. Also tell me why you would want to use something that takes away hp to make hp rather than something that is much more efficent and just makes hp? But I guess to each his own.
:iagree: superchargers are better off on v8's. just my :2cents:
:iagree: superchargers are better off on v8's. just my :2cents:
scallywag
04-30-2004, 02:14 PM
plus I can run a 7 PSI supercharger with out building my engine first so I can have about 240 HP (rough guess) and not kill my engine till I can build it...[/QUOTE]
With turbo you can run up to 12 psi on stock internals properly tuned and be fine.If you are ruinning an ls motor that is. If you have the vtec you can only run about 8 psi. also I could be wrong, but only 7psi isn't going to get you up to 240hp, maybe 11-12 psi.
With turbo you can run up to 12 psi on stock internals properly tuned and be fine.If you are ruinning an ls motor that is. If you have the vtec you can only run about 8 psi. also I could be wrong, but only 7psi isn't going to get you up to 240hp, maybe 11-12 psi.
whtteg
04-30-2004, 02:32 PM
Yea actually 7 psi on a JRSC might get you in the 165ish whp range on an ls an 180ish whp range on a gsr.
KounT
04-30-2004, 02:50 PM
what's jrsc?
whtteg
04-30-2004, 03:00 PM
what's jrsc?
It is an abreviation for jackson racing supercharger. ;)
It is an abreviation for jackson racing supercharger. ;)
IntegraB16
04-30-2004, 07:57 PM
I don't know how relivant this is, but you can run about 6-7 PSI on an engine without an Intercooler. Anything after that you will need on. There is also one supercharger that uses an intercooler type device and that is the aftercooler that a Vortech supercharger uses.
aznarabchaos
04-30-2004, 10:33 PM
Would a turbo LS beat a GSR? and How much is it for a turbo kit and installation?
scallywag
04-30-2004, 11:00 PM
Would a turbo LS beat a GSR? and How much is it for a turbo kit and installation?
Depending on how many psi you run. Yes. Like I said above a stock ls motor can handle 12 psi of boost (properly tuned), that will get you quite a bit faster than a gsr. even 8-10 psi would get you faster than a gsr I believe. As far as prices go, you can get kits for less than $3000. I think you can even find kits w/o intercoolers for just over 2k if you shop right. Personally I would go with a custom one, but the kits are pretty good to. I don't know how much installation is, but I have herd that it isn't that hard to do, if you wanted to tackle the project.
Depending on how many psi you run. Yes. Like I said above a stock ls motor can handle 12 psi of boost (properly tuned), that will get you quite a bit faster than a gsr. even 8-10 psi would get you faster than a gsr I believe. As far as prices go, you can get kits for less than $3000. I think you can even find kits w/o intercoolers for just over 2k if you shop right. Personally I would go with a custom one, but the kits are pretty good to. I don't know how much installation is, but I have herd that it isn't that hard to do, if you wanted to tackle the project.
whtteg
04-30-2004, 11:00 PM
Would a turbo LS beat a GSR? and How much is it for a turbo kit and installation?
Yes a blown LS will beat a slightly modded GSR with equal drivers. But I would advise the Vortech if you are planning on going the supercharger route. The vortech is a centrifugal supercharger as were the JRSC is a roots supercharger, the roots style superchargers are not real efficient on small displacement motors.
Yes a blown LS will beat a slightly modded GSR with equal drivers. But I would advise the Vortech if you are planning on going the supercharger route. The vortech is a centrifugal supercharger as were the JRSC is a roots supercharger, the roots style superchargers are not real efficient on small displacement motors.
KoRnboy
04-30-2004, 11:31 PM
I don't know... I'd prefer a turbo, he had just been right about so many other things I figured he knew what he was talking about when he recommended the SC... JRSC I thought boasted much more than 165 WHP... I mean I must have atleast that (not WHP but ... umm what ever the lower would be lol) ...
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