popping the clutch

when you guys race ur 3kg's do you pop the clutch, or is there some other way to take-off fast?

launching i think is the only way

when you guys race ur 3kg's do you pop the clutch, or is there some other way to take-off fast?

I dont know that one either, a lot of people here and on 3si say to drop the clutch at anywhere above 5grand and have a lil all wheel chirp of the tires and have an instant take off, but im to afriad to do that, and I have a heavy duty clutch, im afraid ill hurt my drive train doing that, cause that sounds just to hard core of a drop to me. And a lot of people say slip the clutch at around 3grand and let it grab then slam the accelerator as you start to feel the car move forward and let out the clutch faster as you do. Thats what I do since i dont feel like breaking anything. lol. Also, with TT's and AWD, we beat anything to 60 mph on the road anyway, so just get into first, hit about 7100 rpms, slam 2nd, should feel a nice chirp, i do, all the wheels sound off, SOOOOOO GOOD, lol, and your gone. Have fun, if you feel brave enough to try the drop at 5+rpms, let me know mang.

i rev to 6grand and drop. why you ask, cause 6 grand is were the most of the power is, thats where you make the 320hp the strongest point of the rpms. before i wouldn't tell you guys i do this you might think i'm crazy ,but i found proof that it works besides droping it in every other rpm and not getting the best launch, at least not better than a 6 grand dump. these guys managed to get a 13.4 which is better than average buy doing the same thing i do

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/1999/7/comparison_test_13_quickest_cars/images/tb_mitsubishi.jpg
#10 MITSUBISHI 3000GT

Putting the power to the pavement is the name of the acceleration game. The Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 has 320 hp, much less than the Jag and Lightning, and the same power rating as the Mustang Cobra. So what gives the Mitsubishi the advantage over them? Traction.

This is the only all-wheel-drive car in this test. That means no wheelspin. Launching the Mitsubishi is so simple, it's like flying into outer space - even a monkey can do it. Just tach up the DOHC twin-turbocharged V6 up near its 6000 rpm power peak and drop that clutch. Granted, this isn't the best thing for the car's durability, but it sure gets this 2+2 off the line like a slingshot. All four 18-in. tires dig in, the 3000GT squats like Mike Piazza, and you are gone.

Don't expect any rubber when you throw gears, either. Tire slip in this car is harder to come by than a date with Pamela Anderson. Shifter action and clutch takeup could be a bit smoother, so quick gear changes aren't easy. But the V6's surprising amount of low-end torque really gets the heavy Mitsubishi going. And the motor pulls right up to its 7000 rpm redline.

One thing missing from the Mitsubishi's stellar performance: the right sounds. Its hair dryer exhaust note just doesn't cut it.

Test Summary:
Mitsubishi 3000GT

Base price: $44,600, Price as tested: $45,140
Engine: 3.0L/181.0 CID DOHC 24v twin turbo V6
HP: 320 @ 6000 rpm, Torque: 315 ft.-lb. @ 2500 rpm
Trans: 6M, Drivetrain: front engine/awd
Final drive: 3.87:1 w/center viscous coupling
Curb weight: 3737 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 11.7
Horsepower/liter: 106.7, Tires: 245/40ZR18
Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 1.70 sec. 0-60 mph: 5.00 sec.
1/4 mile: 13.44 sec. @ 101.79 mph

well revving it up to 6 grand and letting it drop is the fastest way of taking off.

its not the best thing for the cars durability but if you just do it every now and then then it shouldnt be a problem. its just the repeated stress of it will eventually cause problems.

i'm suffering the concequences right now! lol

You AWD folks should consider slipping the clutch out.

If I'm at the track...I dump the clutch at 5000-5500, if I am just racing on the street, I slip it at 3000, you will take pretty much any car out on the street, so there isn't really a need to use all of that tranny bustin power.

That is a little back-asswards. The track should be hooking up WAY better than untreated asphalt.

I hope you have some drivetrain reinforcement.

Not really, I just said if I'm at the track, I launch hard, if I'm just cruising and a car pulls up for a race from a light, I take it easier on the launch...I don't lauch at 5000+ rpms everyday, just a few times...I fail to see how that is backwards. Some prefer slipping the clutch, some prefer dumping it. I do what works for me

That is a little back-asswards. The track should be hooking up WAY better than untreated asphalt.

I hope you have some drivetrain reinforcement.

how is it backwards, and not all awd cars launch the same, the vr4 is a diff launch then a wrx

how is it backwards, and not all awd cars launch the same, the vr4 is a diff launch then a wrx
The only difference is in the diff setup. Keep on dumping your clutches. :uhoh:

Edit: Feel free to tell me how track launches and launces at a stoplight are the same, as that is the ONLY comparison I made. Where you got WRX from, only you know.

wtf are you talking about? he said he does 2 diff things he laucnhes hard at the track and soft on the street. so wtf are you talking about?

I am talking about that being a backwards strategy due to the way a track hooks up (or should). More traction and a clutch dump can do not-so-pleasant things to an AWD system.

All of these points could have been attained using reading comprehension.

lol your a funny guy :loser: . the vr4 hooks up just fine track or street, regardless where you do it its bad for the tranny, but a 5500 rpm launch is gonna get you your best time regardless of how you say it hooks up

lol your a funny guy :loser: . the vr4 hooks up just fine track or street, regardless where you do it its bad for the tranny, but a 5500 rpm launch is gonna get you your best time regardless of how you say it hooks up
Maybe at the power you make, this is the case.

I love how people shun new ideas because of simple ignorance.

I decided to be nice and do a little 3s research:

http://www.team3s.com/FAQlaunch1.htm

lol your a funny guy :loser: . the vr4 hooks up just fine track or street, regardless where you do it its bad for the tranny, but a 5500 rpm launch is gonna get you your best time regardless of how you say it hooks up

Word....This guy is an idiot....as i stated in my previous post, a 5500+ rpm drop is bad for your tranny regardless of where you do it.. The track does have more friction and more of traction hook up if that is what your saying, but there is no need for the huge launch on the street because our cars can bascially kill anything out there to 60mph's. As for the where did the subaru thing come from, the idiot brought that up when he said all you guys with AWD's....last time i check the VR-4 and STi are both AWD....so what the fuck is this guy saying again???

Did you just quote him, but address me?

Edit: I decipehred your asinine punctuation and figured it out. Last time I checked, this is a VR4 forum, right? Why the fuck would I be talking about Subarus or ANY OTHER AWD besides the one the forum addresses?

It's good to see that Darwin lets a few slip through every now and again. It balances out those of us who can have a civil discussion about AWD launching.

but there is no need for the huge launch on the street because our cars can bascially kill anything out there to 60mph's.
Keep telling yourself that.

Again, I brough an idea to the table in a friendly manner, and you cock-gobblers coun't contain yourselves.

Keep telling yourself that.

Again, I brough an idea to the table in a friendly manner, and you cock-gobblers coun't contain yourselves.

cock-gobblers....this guy sounds like hes 12, damn. and btw, my punctuation is excellent lol. But how the fuck would you know that, you sound like you havent even been through grammar school yet. Change your diaper, leave the forum, and read what i posted, I said, and i quote, "our cars can BASICALLY kill anything out there to 60mph's." hmmm any problems yet?

and you said, and i quote this again, "You AWD folks should consider slipping the clutch out." hmmm AWD, that means you brought "a lot more to the table" than just the VR-4, and yes, this is a car forum, this is a tiny little segment of the site dedicated to the 3000GT VR-4. Do you have one? Do you have anything to offer to the thread and forum other than sarcastic anoying and unintelligent remarks? (No need to answer that one btw...) peace lil bitch

lol nicely said, i'll give you some points for that one

Lando, if I am not mistaken, that 3si post said the same thing I did, launch hard at the track, easier on the street. Everyone has different methods for launching at the track, I could quote 12 different ways of raising/lowering your rpms, dropping clutch entirely/dropping it a 1/3rd then slipping it, slipping it then dumping it. Everyone has their own methods...reason being...they have a vr4 and have tried different things and found what works for them...you on the other hand have suddenly become the self-proclaimed authority on AWD vr4 launches with your laser...we don't drive lasers...and we don't tell you how to drive yours. When you take a vr4 to the track then you will have the authority to tell me what worked best for you. Until then, why don't you keep your expertise to the fields that it actually applies to...rather then entering this section of the forum and calling us "cock-gobblers". If I wanted that kind of verbal abuse I'd piss off my 5th grade cousin...if I wanted advice on my car, I'd ask someone who owns one. I did neither. I know how to race my car. Why don't you focus on getting yours to run a 13.5...

lol, u guys r great....since this is the little 17 year old who started this thread, lemme get this straight...so..u guys seem to think its best to rev to 3000 rpms, and then let the clutch out, and we could still smoke cars...is this easier on the drivetrain than popping the clutch, cuz if i mess my car up, my parents will kill me....lol

lol nicely said, i'll give you some points for that one

Thanks man, I greatly apreciate those points, lol, I hate lil fucks like him that think they know everything about a car they dont even own let alone have probably never even driven....makes you think and wonder if some people actually have lives... lol, well Ill talk at you later man, peace

Matt

lol, u guys r great....since this is the little 17 year old who started this thread, lemme get this straight...so..u guys seem to think its best to rev to 3000 rpms, and then let the clutch out, and we could still smoke cars...is this easier on the drivetrain than popping the clutch, cuz if i mess my car up, my parents will kill me....lol

if its some supra or rx-7 i wouldn't do the 3grand slip but if it was some teg gsr or eclipse or somthing in the high 14's low 15's type car then yeah cause its easier on your tranny and you can still beat em

Thanks man, I greatly apreciate those points, lol, I hate lil fucks like him that think they know everything about a car they dont even own let alone have probably never even driven....makes you think and wonder if some people actually have lives... lol, well Ill talk at you later man, peace

Matt
Funny, I'm 25 and have been driving my AWD since 1997. You?

you on the other hand have suddenly become the self-proclaimed authority on AWD vr4 launches with your laser...we don't drive lasers...and we don't tell you how to drive yours. When you take a vr4 to the track then you will have the authority to tell me what worked best for you. Until then, why don't you keep your expertise to the fields that it actually applies to...rather then entering this section of the forum and calling us "cock-gobblers". If I wanted that kind of verbal abuse I'd piss off my 5th grade cousin

I offered a suggestion. The teenagers in the forum made the attacks first, and I replied in kind. If you have a counter-point, the way to deal with it isn't "fuck you, you're wrong", it's "my experience is". I think some of you have alot of growing up to do if you can't even hold a forum discussion on a technique that is sure to wreak havoc on the drivetrain, regardless of the .2 you shave off your 60ft.

I'm done with this group. *edited

Funny, I'm 25 and have been driving my AWD since 1997. You?



I offered a suggestion. The teenagers in the forum made the attacks first, and I replied in kind. If you have a counter-point, the way to deal with it isn't "fuck you, you're wrong", it's "my experience is". I think some of you have alot of growing up to do if you can't even hold a forum discussion on a technique that is sure to wreak havoc on the drivetrain, regardless of the .2 you shave off your 60ft.

I'm done with this group. *edited

Whats sad is you still think that your AWD is the same as our AWD, sadly but no, As much as I would love to trade my VR-4 for your plymouth laser.....*COUGH* lol, no, they are not the same cars, once again you have never driven a VR-4, you dont know what the hell you are talking about, so take your sorry little ass on out of this forum, and leave, its pathetic and you have been owned on here so many times its not even funny. You are acting like the self proclaimed AWD know-it-all of the world and you really need to stop, now, who started talking shit? ummm you, who needs to grow up? You. Who needs to take his laser and drive the fuck on out of this VR-4 forum, YOU. No one on here cares what your opinions are on a car that you HAVE NEVER DRIVEN BEFORE ARE! lol, and by the way, racing your manual tranny in any way is no good for the clutch, snycros, and gears...Slipping the clutch really fucks up your clutch plate...Dropping it hurts the tranny. And out of first, just straight up racing it and shifting hard and fast is painful for the syncros, tranny, and clutch....so please, once again...take your AWD preaching BS somewhere else.
Peace faggot

I like how you can see everything through some sort of crystal ball. Perhaps you should spit shine some of the cum stains off of it from looking at men you hope to hook up with in the future and use it to see my boy Alex's VR4 with DR50s, upgraded injectors, and exhaust with me behind the wheel. It has happened, and since you know so much about me, you must know this...right?

I suggest an English class, and a shrp slap in the face for your mother for not aborting a fetus that has obviously not developed since its time in the womb.

Expalin to me how your AWD is different. Open diff in the front, transfer case, and a diff in the rear. If your rear is an LSD, then it is the same fucking drivetrain setup, though the part #s are obviously different.

I wouldn't call anyone "faggot" when your man-pleasers are to busy flapping in the wind to provide any fact to base their juvenile opinion on.

Again, feel free to reply with more half-assed insults (I expect nothing else from a half-wit), but you won't see me offering any more opinions to a car-biased group of ignorant fucks like yourselves.

As for my Laser, I'd be glad to meet you within 200 miles of Raleigh NC and race for cash.


http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=205789

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=165932&page=2&pp=10&highlight=pittsburgh+raceway

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=192268&page=1&pp=10

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=128015

I bet some of these guys have driven a Vr4 :uhoh:

I have a MBC on my VR-4, but that stock piece of shit wanna be "boost gauge" lol, I have an MAFT version 2.0, and performance DN Y-pipe, a lil exhaust work, and a heavy duty clutch(not like it has anything to do with boost), but I got the boost controller for free, I know it works, but on most MBC's, how much of a turn equals a lb of boost? just a guestimate, because on saturday theres a big run and its kinda personal, and i wanna have a lil more than my stock boost of 12psi, what do yall think would be safe, a quater turn? a full turn? I know this isnt safe because of no way to tell what it is running boost wise, but I need some quick horses to help kick ass, how much boost do you MBC user get out of a full turn usually? Thanks,

Matt
Maybe you should stray from giving advice.

Enough!