cars

hi

this might be in the wrong forum but i didnt know which to put it in. lol

well im just wondering what cars do you see the most being souped up and also raced.

thank you

I'd say its mainly where you're from. Where I'm from in KY, about all you see is the fox body 5-oh mustangs, current style GT Mustangs and any kind of F-body.

I mean mustangs with NOS and F-bodies with programmers/superchargers are a dime a dozen.

The tuner cars haven't caught on as much here (people still have them, but they are mainly just looks and no real performance mods, so I guess you could say riced out instead of tuners).

mainy imports, something that is cheap to get a hold of and easily tuned, turbo cars are easy to make fast b/c the turbos sys. is very restrivtive form the factory and by removing the restrictions you can see lots of hp gains,
couple good canidates,
eclipse/talon (gsx,gst)
golf 1.8t
rx-7 1st, 2nd,3rd gen
supra
civics with swaps, b18,h22 ect...
mazda miata..
integras,
3000gt
basically you can take any car and tune it to be fast if you know wat you are doing..
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Integras and hondas here. Most of them are slow as hell, with 2 ft boeing rear wings and 18 inch chrome rims, but there's the occasional nice one... a very nice supercharged prelude, among others.

Man you guys should look into turbo buicks for streetracing.

who in the hell races a golf :eek7:

Golf = 1.8 Liters of pure hell. Biotch. :eek7:

Those Grand Nationals would fly, that is a fact!

finding a grandnational isn't as easy as finding a golf, civic or others..
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I've found 6 for sale in the last 3 months, that's not including the 5 or 6 on ebay...just the ones around here. But in central illinois, the big thing is F Bodies, classic muscle, and newer GT stangs. With a small contingent of true "tuners"

The golf GTI with the 1.8Turbo motor can be a very quick car. Getting them to 300hp is not unheard of on the stock turbo. Im starting to see alot of GTI tuners in CT now. Also the GTI golf comes in a VR6 model and that also has a lot of potential. Theirs a few 400+hp VR6s running around so watch out.

i'd say dsm's is what i see the most up here, pretty much every dsm i see has an exhaust on it. and then theres integra's, those are a dime a dozen

I think every one and there moms drive a hatchback where I live :uhoh:

its kinda bad that most dsm has exhaust b/c they can easily see10hp gain form that alone.. i would be more then cautsious when approaching a dsm..
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i'm not cautious about aproaching anycar, any turbo charged car easily gains nice hp numbers form small things like exhaust and even intake.

well when you have a vr4 you dont tend to be cautious now do we.. lolz damm supercar..
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Supercar? a VR4? Its a damn fast car, but I hate how everyone throws the word supercar around...

Around here, yuo would be lucky if you can find a cavalier/neon/civic/integra nicely modded. Thy're all, ALL, riced out with dumb kid's thinking their the shit. I have seen some good looking of these cars but then again, the driver ruins it all :headshake

Supercar? a VR4? Its a damn fast car, but I hate how everyone throws the word supercar around...

Why isn't it a SUPER CAR?

Oh-yeah... there are shitloads of CIVICS, NEONS and Fox-Bodies up here... all riced-out.

Why isn't it a SUPER CAR?

Styling, price, and drivetrain. The VR4 is not a super car.

Anyhow, there are very few people around here actually tuning their cars. Most of them are rice or stock.

well i don't know about syling, if it performed like a ferrari the styling is just fine to me, but a supercar runs nothing higher than 12 sec in the 1320 and are no less than 150grand and have top speeds of over 200mph. i wouldn't even call a Z06 a supercar or a viper. a super car is the enzo, mclaren, carerra gt, koenigsegg, Zonda c12, F-50 etc those are supercars. not a car thats top speed is basiclaly 170mph and cost 44grand.

it wanst ment to be taken literaly hence the "lol" but the vr-4 is a pretty fast car... especially compared to 4cyld cars..
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in cali, its mustangs, integras, and civic hatch's........alllllllllllllllllllllll day. and every thing is jdm<japanese domestic market>

Off the subject, but I drove a 2001 Bullet Mustang today, pretty nice. Had decent power, but the best part was the exhaust note. Pulled out from a stop light and just went through 1st gear normal, shifted to 2nd, then nailed it and run it up to about 4500 or 5000 rpms and shifted to 3rd and it spun the tires and wiggled pretty good. I was impressed with it and I'm a Chevy guy.

I've found 6 for sale in the last 3 months, that's not including the 5 or 6 on ebay...just the ones around here. But in central illinois, the big thing is F Bodies, classic muscle, and newer GT stangs. With a small contingent of true "tuners"

yea, every body and their mullet wearing brother has a damn f-body around here. Thats just one of many reasons why I have a GN. man, I don't see how GNs are hard to find, seeing as how they made over 14k of thim in 1987 alone.

everybody in my town has a turbo gn, i seen like 25 today alone :disappoin



















j/k :evillol: just teasing :p

Ohio is the realm of Camaros and DSM's, mostly. It's kind of odd, even though there's a Ford engine plant in town (you know, where they made the Ford 351 Clevelands) there's a lot more pro-GM sentiment in town.

DSM's are popular probably because of their low cost and AWD. Snow/Rust Belt folks like us have to think about that cold white stuff at least six months out of the year.

hypsi97 cool sig , it made me laff lolz
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Sorry bro, I havent seen a bigger advocate for the Z32 here than you 1viadrift, but its NOT a supercar. If the bar were lowered that much, then the Supra and RX-7 FD would be supercars too.

The Z is a TOURING CAR. Its NOT a sports car or supercar. But that shouldnt suggest you couldnt modify it to supercar speeds and power.

i always believed they were japaneese supercars
supra
rx7
vr4
300zx
skyline

The Japanese supercars are cars like the Nissan R390GT1 road car, Toyota TSO20. One could also make a case for the Orocho, the Dome, the Jiotta Caspitta, and other such one offs.

Currently in production, though, the closest thing to a "supercar" in production in Japan is the NSX, and that's more of a sub-exotic than a supercar.

i always believed they were japaneese supercars
supra
rx7
vr4
300zx
skyline

Sports cars yes, supercars no.

Sorry bro, I havent seen a bigger advocate for the Z32 here than you 1viadrift, but its NOT a supercar. If the bar were lowered that much, then the Supra and RX-7 FD would be supercars too.

The Z is a TOURING CAR. Its NOT a sports car or supercar. But that shouldnt suggest you couldnt modify it to supercar speeds and power.


I didn't say it was a SUPER-CAR (my NA Z?)... that wasn't me! :screwy: LoL You are loco en la cabeza! But you are RIGHT! I loooove Z32's and all Japanese GT cars! I guess I would consider other cars like the GTR and GTO or Fairlady TT and Supra's to be 'SUPER' cars... but what do I know! And what do you mean by TOURING car? I always considered the Z32 to be a sports car... even the NA version to a lesser extent.

i disagree with you guys on this one, sti, evo-8 skyline, gto, supra, rx-7, 300zxtt, they are what i consider japanese supercars. hell even japanese guys have agreed with me on this one

i would give the gtr skyline supercar status purely because of all the streetcred it has. you have perfect handling characteristics coupled with a very powerful engine that can kick some serious ass stock with all that power transferred to the road through 4 wheels. i think youd be driving a seriously hard bargain if you didnt consider that a damn super sweet car.

My definition of a supercar is something that exhibits the finest of every quality- speed, handling, rarity, price, looks. Something that comes stock with these features, because almost anyone can tune a eclipse to hit 9's and 10's in the 1/4 mile, but it does not make the ecplise a supercar

Who mentioned an Eclipse?

i wouldnt consider them as supercars but they represent something special.

supras, skylines, rx7 and others, appear a lot in car movies and import tuning shows like SEMA with total modifications. every day we here about supras with 500hp ore more so a lot of people say that theyre so good or even better as a ferraris, a stupid comparison but its true.

i would consider ferrari enzo or pagani zonda as supercars. its a total different car class, they are more expensive, higher speed, lower production, even the owners are choosen rigorously...

Who mentioned an Eclipse?
Eclipse, RX-7, 300ZX...take your pick, their not supercars. Price range is not the biggest criteria for a supercar but still one of them, the price and rarity coninside (sp?) with eachother hense why price is a factor of a supercar. Now a supercar is also illegal to drive on the streets in most states/countries etc...

Now a supercar is also illegal to drive on the streets in most states/countries etc...

sorry, has nothing to do with the thread but you mean supercars like F Enzo and P Carrera GT?

why is it illegal?

i disagree with you guys on this one, sti, evo-8 skyline, gto, supra, rx-7, 300zxtt, they are what i consider japanese supercars. hell even japanese guys have agreed with me on this one

You honestly believe 13 and 14 second cars are SUPER cars? You honestly think they're on par with the Mclaren? Dude, most of the cars you mentioned are sports cars and "Rally Inspired Sport Sedans."

EVERYONE wants to throw the word supercar around because they are enthusiasts to one car. The Saleen S7 is a supercar, the Mosler MT900 Photon is a supercar. Supercars run 11's, have top speeds of over 200MPH, and price Tags that the botton 98% of society cant afford.

Sorry to break your dreams, but your GTO, or your Z32 arent Supercars. Be happy with what they are, and dont try to make them up to be something that they are not. Its no different than a kid with his civic thinking its a sports car. Thats ricer attitude...

sorry, has nothing to do with the thread but you mean supercars like F Enzo and P Carrera GT?

why is it illegal?
I do not know why, I am not the law.
I've heard from many many people that if you want to drive around a Ferrari, it has to be 15 years old or older to be legal. You can drive around a newer Ferrari, but you'd have to impotr from the states and it will then be subject to import-regulation requirements. It's not a huuuge deal but still something you have to go through to make legal.

Sorry to break your dreams, but your GTO, or your Z32 arent Supercars. Be happy with what they are, and dont try to make them up to be something that they are not. Its no different than a kid with his civic thinking its a sports car. Thats ricer attitude...


Let me get this straight... WHERE DID I TYPE: My Z32 is a SUPER-DUPER Car? LoL I have not ever said anything like that! What are you smoking? Pot dipped in bleach is bad my friend! :lol: I'm still waiting on your definition of TOURING car and I still think my Z32 is a SPORTSCAR (notice that I have not entered/inserted/placed/cut or pasted the word SUPER in there). Talk to me... dork! :smile:

the only reason you can call them super cars is because they have ultra high performance and bush the limits of what they can achieve with 280hp. Just image if the 280hp cap was lifted!! A lot of motoring journalist in japan are starting to feel that the 280hp limit should be abandoned in the pursuit of superior driving and development.

Now nobody likes EVOs or STis more than me, but those aren't supercars. Neither are Supras, RX7's, GTR's, etc... A supercar has performance that would make all those cars look tame, and you also get exclusivity and rarity with it. There are Japanese supercars, but most of you have probably never even heard of them since most people seem to think the Supra and Skyline are the fastest things to come out of Japan. Toyota GT1 road car, Nissan R390, TommyKaira ZZ2...

Every self respecting Nissan-Guy knows of the R390!!!

I do not know why, I am not the law.
I've heard from many many people that if you want to drive around a Ferrari, it has to be 15 years old or older to be legal. You can drive around a newer Ferrari, but you'd have to impotr from the states and it will then be subject to import-regulation requirements. It's not a huuuge deal but still something you have to go through to make legal.

where are you at, exactly, that would require you to import a brand new, world legal, ferrari from the states?

F cars and other exotics that are not road legal in the states are listed that way due to crash testing (which most likely hasn't been done) or ride height infractions...

IE. the gt3 porsche had to be lifted to make US spec.

but that doesn't mean it's an illegal car...

shed some more light?

Well I know the F1 is not street legal. You have to get all these legal things that say you can only put like 1500miles (I think that’s right) on the car a year. A real F1 owner on AF was explaining it awhile ago. I forgot why though.

I'm in London, Ontario, Canada...I've never actually asked a cop about that, which I should :twak:
I'll do that and get back to you guy's on why it is/isn't legal

the F1 isn't legal... really?
any proof of that?

You honestly believe 13 and 14 second cars are SUPER cars? You honestly think they're on par with the Mclaren? Dude, most of the cars you mentioned are sports cars and "Rally Inspired Sport Sedans."

EVERYONE wants to throw the word supercar around because they are enthusiasts to one car. The Saleen S7 is a supercar, the Mosler MT900 Photon is a supercar. Supercars run 11's, have top speeds of over 200MPH, and price Tags that the botton 98% of society cant afford.

Sorry to break your dreams, but your GTO, or your Z32 arent Supercars. Be happy with what they are, and dont try to make them up to be something that they are not. Its no different than a kid with his civic thinking its a sports car. Thats ricer attitude...

listen, if you look back i said super cars run nothig less than 12 sec in the 1320 top speeds 200mph and over and cost no less than 150grand.

but as far as a japanese supercar yes i believe they are, they are some of the best japan has to offer, and like i said even japanese guys agree with me, not all but the 2 i know of agree with me. but for just plain supercars of the world, no, there not even close to being supercars.

i wouldn't say a Z06 is a supercar but i'd say its an american supercar. the ford gt i would call a supercar the s7 saleen i would call a supercar. a srt10 i would call a supercar.

That's right, take it from a VR4 man, represent. Peace

I'm still waiting Lachean.....

Ok I just checked back and read some of the thread about the F1. If you want to read it its called "F1 owner on board". Anyways he can put 2500 street miles on his car. And he can do that because when he bought the car he bought it under the title of show car. I dont have any real proof, to lazy to look, but he says its not street legal so im just taking his word.

There is something called the "supercar law" or something, if they made less than some number (like 500?) of a car, you can import it and drive it legally as long as you don't put more than 2500 miles a year on it.

Hmm, they only made 400 Impreza 22B's... :devil: