GM aproved upgrades??
Joseph1082
04-27-2004, 01:52 PM
I'm trynig to find out if there is some company that GM aproves of for mods/upgrades, like Mopar is to Dodge, that will not void your warantee.
Chevyracincamaro
04-27-2004, 02:10 PM
SLP comes to mind, but i dont know for certain about it...
89IROC&RS
04-27-2004, 09:33 PM
only if SLP does it before the car is sold. the answer here is NONE. no aftermarket modification will be "approved of" by GM tellin ya as a Chevy tech assistant.
Joseph1082
04-27-2004, 11:35 PM
Chevy blows!!!!!! Hey, IROC, what can I do, can I mod the car and then if I ever take it to the dealership for something, just put it back to stock before I go?? Also, I bought the car with an Intake lid, MTI to be exact, so technically isn't my waranty already gone.
tacoma man
04-27-2004, 11:57 PM
thats what the warranty says on my ss, slp must
install it on the car before it is bought in order
to be included in the warranty. any additional
bolt ons, computers modifications will void the warranty.
and what model are we talking about? mines a 2000
my 3 years are up, its only got 16,000 miles on it ,
and i bought it new with 11 miles on it. the warranty was 3 years
or 60,000 miles. i used the recomended oil, and took it to the
dealer for them to change it. but it has never broken down
so i never used the warranty
install it on the car before it is bought in order
to be included in the warranty. any additional
bolt ons, computers modifications will void the warranty.
and what model are we talking about? mines a 2000
my 3 years are up, its only got 16,000 miles on it ,
and i bought it new with 11 miles on it. the warranty was 3 years
or 60,000 miles. i used the recomended oil, and took it to the
dealer for them to change it. but it has never broken down
so i never used the warranty
Joseph1082
04-28-2004, 01:22 PM
I have a 2002, waranty still good, but my lid already voided it.
Joseph1082
04-28-2004, 01:24 PM
Oh, will a strut bar and/or subframes void the waranty, they shouldn't right.
DaMoNe6969
04-28-2004, 02:55 PM
Phone the dealer or who ever the warrenty is through, and ask them.. They usually will let some things go, if they are dealer or professionally installed..
Deadcarny
04-28-2004, 02:59 PM
From SEMA (http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7253): With regard to aftermarket parts, the gist of the law is that warranty coverage cannot be denied simply because such parts are present on the vehicle, or have been used .The warranty coverage can be denied only if the aftermarket part caused the malfunction or damage for which warranty coverage is sought.
Goto the link and read the whole article and the attatchment..... Take it to the dealer if you ahve to.
Goto the link and read the whole article and the attatchment..... Take it to the dealer if you ahve to.
89IROC&RS
04-28-2004, 07:05 PM
basicly how it works. is the parts will only void the warranty of anything they touch. for instance, the intake lid and all that, if its a cold air setup, say your engine hydrolocks, well, you dont get a free engine, cuz that aftermarket intake may have allowed moisture into the engine causing the problem. or any driveablity concerns will not be covered underwarrante because of the lid. but say, your window stops working, that will still be covered by warantee. as for the strut tower and suspension stuff, same applies. if your shocks go bad, or alignment goes out, bearings bust, anything related to steering goes bad, wont be covered. but if your rear end burns up, it will still be covered. so its not like your entire warantee disapears when you change something. its just if anything it effects goes bad, youre paying out of pocket.
Joseph1082
04-28-2004, 07:45 PM
I see, so will a Borla exhaust be reason to lose my waranty on the enigne... and IROC, if I buy this exhaust, and sonething goes wrong, can't I just take it down, and bolt up the original before I bring the car to Chevy:)???
89IROC&RS
04-28-2004, 08:43 PM
lol, yeah if you wanna be trickey you can take off the aftermarket stuff, and put the stock stuff back on. but what if by some reason the aftermarket stuff does break it. so you fix it to stock, put the aftermarket on and it breaks again ;) but no i dont think an exhaust will effect your engine waranty.
Chevyracincamaro
04-28-2004, 11:33 PM
funny thing about all this is for the exhaust i had to cut the pipe that went from the cat to the muffler. granted i was just being a lazy ass, but unless you have a lift i dont think you can pull that piping out without the old hacksaw, but maybe im just really lazy...
Joseph1082
04-29-2004, 12:58 AM
We'll have to see, oh, and IROC, can you do me a BIG FAVOR???? Since you work for chevy can you find out for me w/o a doubt what mods, say exhuast, intake, will void it and what wont, cause the dealership by my house said anything, but for all I know they don't have a clue what they are talking about. For some reason most people that answer the phone for businesses usually don't have any idea what they're talking about.
89IROC&RS
04-29-2004, 05:50 PM
lol. well to be honest, i think they are right, but the final say is up to the tech working on your car. if hes really anal, he can say that any mod related to the engine could have disrupted the plazma flow to your flux capasitor and that blew the engine. when all you did was put a K&N air filter in it (just an example) or you could have a full out aftermarket exhaust system on it and cold air intake, but he could know a blown bearing caused by an intake leak when he sees it, and will conceid that it is a warranty item cuz its an OEM failure not caused by your mods. so it really depends on the tech you get. but i think according to GM just about everything non factory installed is fair game for voiding the waranty.
Joseph1082
04-29-2004, 11:27 PM
So what about just keeping the Stock stuff lying around, and if something bad happens, then i'll have to make it stock before i bring it in.
tacoma man
04-29-2004, 11:28 PM
i called about mine,, they said that exhaust wouldnt void the warranty
tacoma man
04-29-2004, 11:32 PM
yeah and fix it back to factory look, usually they can tell and they can be a real pain when it comes to warranty
tacoma man
04-30-2004, 01:27 AM
when i worked for a internet support
group, an woman pissed me off
i told her to download a flux capasitor
and her dial up would speed up, the
dunce believed it....lol exhaust wont hurt the
warranty....
group, an woman pissed me off
i told her to download a flux capasitor
and her dial up would speed up, the
dunce believed it....lol exhaust wont hurt the
warranty....
Joseph1082
04-30-2004, 01:28 AM
Tacoma, Ur sure??? Chevy dealer told me different
GTStang
04-30-2004, 06:23 AM
I worked at performance Ford shop for a year and I got well versed in this US law so I could explain it to customers. No aftermarket parts void the warranty unless they can directly prove that the aftermarket part caused the other parts failure. But this does not mean the Chevy/Ford whatever dealership can't be cocksuckers. If you play a lil hardball back you'll get satisfaction cause they know the real law too.
89IROC&RS
04-30-2004, 05:42 PM
GTstang, i dunno about that man, im not calling you out on this cuz i dont know the written law, but from what i do know, the rule is that for replacement parts, say... spark plugs, if they want you to use their spark plugs, and only their spark plugs, they have to provide them free of charge. because to make you use gm parts, and charge you for them, is extorsion???? i think. or entrapment... something like that. but if you alter the OEM setup say a set of aftermarket heads, you have altered the original perameters of the engine as designed by GM and yes, that voids the warranty. to say that the warranty was still in effect would be like GM warrantying the aftermarket parts, which unless they are installed by SLP, it does not happen.
tacoma man
04-30-2004, 05:44 PM
now thats what they told me. i put
flo masters on my 00 SS right after i
bought it new. but now they did say that
the exhaust would no longer be covered by
the warranty on the car.
flo masters on my 00 SS right after i
bought it new. but now they did say that
the exhaust would no longer be covered by
the warranty on the car.
89IROC&RS
04-30-2004, 06:00 PM
yup yup, thats the way it goes.
Joseph1082
04-30-2004, 06:08 PM
Ok, well, i don't care about the exhaust, if I get the
Borla I want it has its own warranty. What would you guys suggest... oh, and I read a sign at Meineke (spelling?) that said it is against the law for the dealer to make you get it service by them, so this would mean that Meineke can service your car, as long as they use appropriate plugs, wires, etc, you can't lose the warranty.
Borla I want it has its own warranty. What would you guys suggest... oh, and I read a sign at Meineke (spelling?) that said it is against the law for the dealer to make you get it service by them, so this would mean that Meineke can service your car, as long as they use appropriate plugs, wires, etc, you can't lose the warranty.
89IROC&RS
04-30-2004, 09:32 PM
exactly, that falls under the catagoy that if GM will only uphold the warranty if you let them do all your service, then they have to do it for free. well they dont want to do that, so they have to let you get service elsewhere, which is fine by me, the more meinake screws up, or more to the point, jiffy lube, the more money i make fixin it when people bring it to the dealership to have it fixed right ;)
DaMoNe6969
04-30-2004, 10:14 PM
he can say that any mod related to the engine could have disrupted the plazma flow to your flux capasitor and that blew the engine. .
happened to me twice.. it was a bitch!
hey.. didnt the flux capasitor run off plutonium??
happened to me twice.. it was a bitch!
hey.. didnt the flux capasitor run off plutonium??
GoBears
04-30-2004, 10:51 PM
I believe the flux capacitor wasn't nuclear but electrical. He just needed plutonium to create the 1.21 jigawatts of electricitly needed for time travel. :)
4onFloor
04-30-2004, 10:56 PM
I believe the flux capacitor wasn't nuclear but electrical. He just needed plutonium to create the 1.21 jigawatts of electricitly needed for time travel. :)
just get a bigger alternator
just get a bigger alternator
Joseph1082
05-01-2004, 01:56 AM
I remember a machine "Mr. Fusion", a coffee maker that turned garbage to power... i think it came in the latter films.
89IROC&RS
05-01-2004, 07:28 PM
hahahahahahaha... man the places these threads go ;) i love this forum :)
DaMoNe6969
05-01-2004, 07:47 PM
I remember a machine "Mr. Fusion", a coffee maker that turned garbage to power... i think it came in the latter films.
So did it make coffee?? or power?? Or power to make coffee??
Im confused
So did it make coffee?? or power?? Or power to make coffee??
Im confused
Joseph1082
05-02-2004, 01:13 AM
I think it replaced the need for plutonium, instead it was fuel by garbage, I remember the Doc putting in Banana peels and such into it.
DaMoNe6969
05-02-2004, 03:04 AM
So where does the coffee maker fit into all of this??
Alright, garbage into power, power into flux capasitor.. Got ya.. all this and a cup of coffee??
You'd need a hell of a lot of banana peels to get 1.21 giga watts!
Alright, garbage into power, power into flux capasitor.. Got ya.. all this and a cup of coffee??
You'd need a hell of a lot of banana peels to get 1.21 giga watts!
Joseph1082
05-02-2004, 01:46 PM
It just looked like a coffee maker, but instead of being Mr. Coffee, it was Mr. Fusion.
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