i want power

im buying a 98' 240sx and i want to do a motor swap, i was thinking about buying a s-15 sr20det motor but as far as that im not to sure about what i should do because most of my friends refuse to help me and if they are one of my friends that will help me they just dont know to much about this car or the motor so i need some help because most of my motor head buddys think im an idiot for buying an import (they all have muscle cars like montys-a grand national- a regal- trans am etc..you get the idea) but i really like this car and ive heard good things about this motor but i really need help getting started with parts i should think about getting or changing and so on because i want to be able to keep up with my friends. any help to put me on the right track would be sweet... thanks.

i don't know much about engine swaps but if you look in the FAQ i'm sure you'll find some useful info to get you started

You want power and I want you to search next time. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92927

you are an idiot, wanna go fast in a straightline? domestics over imports all the way....


imports can keep up with the right tim and money, but a domestic car is so much easier if all you wanna do is run the 1320

BlackBike, if I were you, I wouldnt get the S15 SR, Mostly because of cost, and transmission issues. But an S14 would be better along the lines of an SR. But if you want gobs of power for the quarter-mile, look into the RB series engines, maybe an RB25?!?

yea rb will own ove all the sr's in 1/4 mile the sr powerband isn't good at all for 1/4 mile i seen best of 12's on a fully tuned sr motor the ka24de motor is much more potient then a sr for the 1320.. you get power in the low end of the power band and keep it throughout and also lots more toqure off the line..
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u want power? buy a jet engine and strap it to your car. or get a rocket, those put out like 18000 hp.
people keep sayin "i'm buyin a 240sx" and then turns out they don't have the cash or something. get the car and THEN think about soupin it up.

You only have one line of hope if you are trying to keep up with the domestics, any potent 6 cylinder like the RB line of engines or VG30TT, anything less than a 6 and you will not pass emissions, I've got a 96' Trans am 6sp (god rest her soul), and even turbo type Rs couldn't keep up.
T2 is right, for the 1320 your better off supping up the KA, I saw one with 390hp in the last issue of I think HCi or some mag.
Go with the RB 25 it is cheap, or if you want to be supreme the RB26, but break open the piggy for this one.

im pretty sure that a dsm (tsi,gsx) will be more than able to keep up to domestics not to mention the evo8 and sti.. but i do see your point for top end 6 or better after around 130 the 4cyld dont pull as hard as a 6cyld b/c of lack of displacement
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The KA is only behind the 25 by approx 100cc. Be that as it may, just go with an RB or KA. SRs are overrated.

Hey watsup man. If I were you, Id get an S13 240sx and swap an Sr20det in it. Just my personal preference, i think the s13's look a lot better than the s14's. I dont think sr20's are overrated...they have great potential. You can either get the red top sr20 which runs about 202hp, or the black top sr20 for a little more cost which runs about 240 hp. (but then again, there are different gen sr 20's - s13, s14, s15). I say go with the red top becasue there are a lot of parts and is easty to catch up witht he black top's power. go check on ebay how much the engine cost.

Say you get the sr20det red top. For a low budget, all you gotta do, is buy a good exhaust sytem (3inch piping)...perhaps, HKS? and then change your interfooler into a front mount intercooler. Do something like 22X9X2.5...but waht ever you prefer. The bigger the better. You will have to do some custom piping. Change your fuel management...get a new fuel pump for your new turbo engine and run it on 440cc fuel injectors and your set. The stock PSI of these engines run 7-8 PSI. Get a air fuel controller, boost that up a little, and then, get a boost controller to boost your PSI up to about 15PSI (for now to be safe...you dont wanna go blowin your engine while boosting 20 PSI). You will see a huge difference. You will be running about 300 + hp for under $1500 in modifications.

If your getting the s13, you can also swap a Ca18 det into it but its will be an older engine with slightly less power. But then again, there will always be parts and options for you to boost it up.

sr? overrated? if you can explain, ill give you a cookie. but if your explination is "thats the only engine swaps i see in magazines" then no cookie for you.

the fact of the matter is, the SR works.

how bout this sell 240 get LS1 SS camaro and that will kick most any import stock and a LS1 only gets faster.

thanx i got the car and found a sr20det on one of the sites posted on FAq that im looking into, and i think im gonna take tmantrans advice as far as parts go maybe look around a bit more and see what else i can do with it but as far as my friends go with there domestics, they can eat it cuz i dont really need a rocket ship for my first project, a descent four banger will do for now untill i have more funds and time on my hands and it will still be fun

that sr is an s-15

Yo Tman, $1500 mods and say $2000 4 engine/tranny/etc, with all that, the Bird needs $300 of nitrous setup and he is gone again, then what?
What most ppl fail to see is that after supping their ricers up, they go race the birds and stangs that are stock, but when you go to the track and run into the big dogs, you are right back to the bottom of the gas chain. I say take any 89 up 240SX and swap a freaking six in it. then you have a chance, otherwise, the most powerful street legal 4cyl I heard of was putting out 608HP, an STSi, but domestics, I read of a stang with 1100HP a viper TT with somewhere around 1200HP, and a 550hp vett and 750hp snake natural aspirated. The fastest street legal slip was I think either high 8s' or low 9s' set by a Viper. What the domesctics and every other manufucturer even ferrari do is a very simple non calculating formula, Take a big freaking engine and stuff it into the smallest car you can get, so simple. Asian cars are the only ones who stick to the small cc (the NSX CRIES FOR A FREAKING V8, If I ever get one, I an putting a V8 in it). this proves there enginuity but other than the Skyline and Supras, most others will be eaten alive, and even the fastest Skys and Supras will be killed with the domestic drags, that is why Domestics are raced alone, they are crapily built in stock form, but thier size gives sooooooooooo much room for improvement, by the time they are all out drag, they are unstopable.
Take a VG30 or RB put it in a 240 and even the prancing stallion will think twice.

hey sho I agree with you almost 100% but to say that a suped up Supra TT and a Suped up Skyline cant run with 10 or 9 seconds non street legal domestics is bull. On a stock bottom end the supras are known for pushing well over 800hp, not to mention there damn near 50/50 in weight distribution so whether it be on track or on a road course the domestics dont stand a change. I mean hell dude and your compaing a suped up skyline to a suped up domestic? Oh please. Theres a reason why american muscle is so cheap, its because they last like a year and then blow up. but yeah with everything else you said i agree. lol but going in a str8 line isnt fun and its pointless how much skill involved in that? Besides Reaction time and quick reflexes? anyone can go fast in a str8 like with a 400hp beast, but take that bitch around a corner and try to get that power lol.

Here are my two cents on this... if you want power, get a 1jzgte, from a Toyota Supra... i know for a fact that they fit in the s13, so im sure they will fit in the s14. If you do the swap yourself, it would be like 2500 bucks, and i know with a descent turbo, and injectors, you can easily get 400+ hp. that engine is a tank and that is my two cents. forget the s13... its made of aluminum! i would go toyota if i were you. take it easy everyone!

i have a 94 civic and i did 600$ worth of mod's i think im pushin around 450 hp

ha, 600 in mods on a civic with "450 hp", lets see, around 95-100 hp stock, plus 600 bucks, that'l get ya to around 150-200 max. and unless you can show us some dyno charts, and some pics of your 450 beast, it'll be the day i die that a weak 4 banger like that will put out 450 with 600 bucks.

hey sho I agree with you almost 100% but to say that a suped up Supra TT and a Suped up Skyline cant run with 10 or 9 seconds non street legal domestics is bull. On a stock bottom end the supras are known for pushing well over 800hp, not to mention there damn near 50/50 in weight distribution so whether it be on track or on a road course the domestics dont stand a change. I mean hell dude and your compaing a suped up skyline to a suped up domestic? Oh please. Theres a reason why american muscle is so cheap, its because they last like a year and then blow up. but yeah with everything else you said i agree. lol but going in a str8 line isnt fun and its pointless how much skill involved in that? Besides Reaction time and quick reflexes? anyone can go fast in a str8 like with a 400hp beast, but take that bitch around a corner and try to get that power lol.

Haha SR20DETPOWER is gonna come here and yell at you. True, Supras run "well over 800hp", but getting that power to the ground is what limits them to 11s and 10s, while American counterparts with the same power -sometimes less- are running much faster times.

Contrary to belief, street legal American cars that run 9s aren't that rare to find, what keeps a motor (import or domestic) alive is proper tuning and reinforcement. Knowing your engine's limits certainly helps get you there.