2.5 contour engine
99ZX2sa-weet
04-26-2004, 08:43 PM
Alright, this is my first post on here, but i was just wondering if anyone knew about the 2.5L SVT Contour Engine? I have a 99 ZX2 and am lookin to make it faster. Money isnt really an object, but simplicity is. I was wondering if anyone thought that the 2.5L SVT Contour engine would fit in the ZX2? It isnt that much bigger, but i dont really want to do a lot of chopping and shifting and all of that stuff. That would cost me WAY more than just a couple G's. The HP boost would be very significant, in an upwards of 60 HP. Then any extras on the car would just be over kill. Well, just let me know what you think, later
ZX2000
04-27-2004, 02:27 AM
the contour engine from the svt is a v-6 which means completely new engine mounts (which i know they don't make em) you would have to have them made at a machine shop. #2 is that i have heard bad things about that particular engine. there was alot of recalls on it because of malfunctioning sensors and so on. and ya you are gonna get alot of horsies out of it but what exactly is the point of this again? if i were to estimate the cost of it (being a machinist myself) i would have to say that all that custom work would cost you nearly $8000. conversions arent pretty, trust me i have experience w/ them (i.e. a 94 mazda b2300 that i converted to a v8) that little project cost me over $5000 and they make conversion kits for it. i think the wisest thing would be to but a 2.0 off ebay. tear it apart, and build it the way you want it. that way you learn alot more too and you can come on here and tell me what not to do. lol
zx2srdotnet
04-27-2004, 04:13 PM
Only ZX2 motor swap i know of is a svt focus motor in a 2000 s/r with the s/r pcm and zx2 tranny. its not fully operational (needs to get the intake manifold to work correctly). but even that is a LOT of work.
I agree w/ Zx2000 the best way is to buy a zx2 block of e-bay and build it up to what u want, then mate it to the zxtuner tranny
I agree w/ Zx2000 the best way is to buy a zx2 block of e-bay and build it up to what u want, then mate it to the zxtuner tranny
zx2srdotnet
04-27-2004, 04:14 PM
one more thing, for the motor swap you also need to have fabricated axles, and custom work on teh tranny just to get it to mate-up
ZX2000
04-27-2004, 08:37 PM
axles are what alot of people overlook too and are one of the most important things also. so i agree w/ you there. if your gonna do a rebuild in excess of 280 hp then you need to get friendly w/ your local metal fabrication shop cuz zxtuner.com only sells up to 280 hp. i know for my buildup im gonna need to do the same.
zx2srdotnet
04-27-2004, 10:35 PM
zxtuner will do some fab for u, just ask rob, hes usually cool about new ideas that others have
99ZX2sa-weet
04-28-2004, 02:44 PM
what about the svt focus engine? im not sure if that a 4 banger or a v-6 but if its 4, then shouldnt it fit? i know that 2.4L is still 4 cylinder so what if i bought a 2.4 and then squeezed as many mods on that as i could then swapped the engine? another thing, my car is auto and i kinda want a stick just to play around with. about how much does the parts and labor cost on a man-tranny?
zx2srdotnet
04-28-2004, 02:58 PM
its a 4, but it also needs custom fittings to get it to mate to the zx2 tranny, and i dunno about the pcm, the only guy that has done its its been well over a year and he still hasnt gotten everything perfected
but the svt motor doesnt have as much after market as teh zx2 motor.
you dont sem to get that any motor just doesnt pop in, no mater what you will apend thousands in fitting, fabricating and parts. an you can get a prperl tuned turbo zx2 w/ 310+whp for 7k, so a swap is poinltess fro our car
and its cheaper to just trade in the atx on a mtx
but the svt motor doesnt have as much after market as teh zx2 motor.
you dont sem to get that any motor just doesnt pop in, no mater what you will apend thousands in fitting, fabricating and parts. an you can get a prperl tuned turbo zx2 w/ 310+whp for 7k, so a swap is poinltess fro our car
and its cheaper to just trade in the atx on a mtx
99ZX2sa-weet
04-28-2004, 07:23 PM
i know that it doesnt just pop in, there is a lot of work, but im no mechanic so for me, it does just pop in when i take it to the racing specialists down the street and hand them a couple grand. tell me more about a 310+whp turbo zx2 for 7 grand. i know the turbo will cost atleast 2 of that 7. whats the rest?
99ZX2sa-weet
04-28-2004, 07:24 PM
one more thing, about how much would it be tradin the tranny in?
zx2srdotnet
04-28-2004, 08:27 PM
The full kit is 5500, the rest is for profesional tuning and its the only reliable turbo out for the zx2. or NA esslinger had a s/r that ran 11.9 with out any nitrus, all motor. If you take the time to tune you can be running in the 14's with out a lot of work done, a head package, header and exaust, chip will get u well in the 14's with good tuning. Swaps for ZX2's arnt worth the money, thats why no one ever does them.
For the money you can spend buying and installing a svt motor you can be even faster if you invested it in the stock 2.0.
For the money you can spend buying and installing a svt motor you can be even faster if you invested it in the stock 2.0.
myconsvt
11-23-2004, 02:44 PM
to: zx2000
I read what you said about the 2.5 contour svt engine and that is not true the thing about it not being a good engine i have a 98 svt and so do 5 other guys i know and they have no problems what so ever they are an excellent engine. with alot of upgrades available.
I read what you said about the 2.5 contour svt engine and that is not true the thing about it not being a good engine i have a 98 svt and so do 5 other guys i know and they have no problems what so ever they are an excellent engine. with alot of upgrades available.
zx2srdotnet
11-23-2004, 02:49 PM
if you did the swap with the 3.0 hybrid it would be worth it
pre98zetec
11-23-2004, 08:10 PM
3.0 highbrid wouldnt be benificial in a ZX2 mainly because the 2.5 would be plenty enough for that little car. You would need a completely new subframe and computer for the 2.5 duratec se/svt swap. Not worth it when the se duratec puts out the same as the svt 4 banger and the svt 2.5 only has 200.
pre98zetec
11-23-2004, 08:15 PM
the contour engine from the svt is a v-6 which means completely new engine mounts (which i know they don't make em) you would have to have them made at a machine shop. #2 is that i have heard bad things about that particular engine. there was alot of recalls on it because of malfunctioning sensors and so on. i can vouch the svt 2.5 is a very good motor, my contour svt NEVER once gave me a problem except the 3rd gear synchro which is not motor related. whoever you heard from that the 2.5 was bad is pretty stupid. (sorry for the double post.)
zx2srdotnet
11-23-2004, 08:55 PM
3.0 highbrid wouldnt be benificial in a ZX2 mainly because the 2.5 would be plenty enough for that little car. You would need a completely new subframe and computer for the 2.5 duratec se/svt swap. Not worth it when the se duratec puts out the same as the svt 4 banger and the svt 2.5 only has 200.
The contour was also designed to hold a Zetec in 98-00 so its not a huge project, and it has been done in a Focus already. A 3.0 would be about 225hp and 235tq at the crank thats enough to go from high 15's to low 14's on a stock motor, and thats b4 any basic bolt-ons. The only problem is the weight balance is off for being a great handeler.
and what does the se v6 having the same power as the svt focus have to do with anything? puting a svt focus motor is a zx2 isnt even worth the price of the motor.
im talking a swap that gves 183whp and 194wtq thats 13hp more then the svt focus gets at the crank and 49more tq then the focus makes crank.
The contour was also designed to hold a Zetec in 98-00 so its not a huge project, and it has been done in a Focus already. A 3.0 would be about 225hp and 235tq at the crank thats enough to go from high 15's to low 14's on a stock motor, and thats b4 any basic bolt-ons. The only problem is the weight balance is off for being a great handeler.
and what does the se v6 having the same power as the svt focus have to do with anything? puting a svt focus motor is a zx2 isnt even worth the price of the motor.
im talking a swap that gves 183whp and 194wtq thats 13hp more then the svt focus gets at the crank and 49more tq then the focus makes crank.
pre98zetec
11-24-2004, 08:13 AM
The contour was also designed to hold a Zetec in 98-00 so its not a huge project, and it has been done in a Focus already. A 3.0 would be about 225hp and 235tq at the crank thats enough to go from high 15's to low 14's on a stock motor, and thats b4 any basic bolt-ons. The only problem is the weight balance is off for being a great handeler.
and what does the se v6 having the same power as the svt focus have to do with anything? puting a svt focus motor is a zx2 isnt even worth the price of the motor.
im talking a swap that gves 183whp and 194wtq thats 13hp more then the svt focus gets at the crank and 49more tq then the focus makes crank.2.5 contours had different subframes then the zetec contours, please dont argue with me unless you know. The contour also had zetec all the way from 95 to 00. If you don't beleive me check out www.contour.org
and what does the se v6 having the same power as the svt focus have to do with anything? puting a svt focus motor is a zx2 isnt even worth the price of the motor.
im talking a swap that gves 183whp and 194wtq thats 13hp more then the svt focus gets at the crank and 49more tq then the focus makes crank.2.5 contours had different subframes then the zetec contours, please dont argue with me unless you know. The contour also had zetec all the way from 95 to 00. If you don't beleive me check out www.contour.org
zx2srdotnet
11-24-2004, 12:32 PM
yeah im a member there boy
pre98zetec
11-24-2004, 03:47 PM
As am I.
myconsvt
11-29-2004, 03:15 PM
i can vouch the svt 2.5 is a very good motor, my contour svt NEVER once gave me a problem except the 3rd gear synchro which is not motor related. whoever you heard from that the 2.5 was bad is pretty stupid. (sorry for the double post.)
yeah my 98 svt had a 3rd gear synchro grind to, i guess it is pretty common in those trannys. but they are great engines
yeah my 98 svt had a 3rd gear synchro grind to, i guess it is pretty common in those trannys. but they are great engines
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