dynamic racing?

is dynamicracing.com have the best upgrades for turbos?cuz im looking at either the dynamic racing T3-T4 turbo kit for 5999.00 or the GT-PRO 368-SX Turbo set for 3249.00 or the DN IHI Ball Bearing Turbo Kit for 5899.00. im tring to make my future vr4 with some huge power over 600 or 700hp at the wheels and still being able to drive it on the street.does anyone on this forum have these?if so are they good or bad or is anything else better?and keep in mid yes i will build the engine and all that good stuff so it will be able to handle what turbos i have but since the turbo is the one of the most expensive things i will buy i wanna know whats best.if the t3-t4 are the best i want them cuz they make over 1000hp http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gif (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&s=#).so u see my intentions so leave me a bunch of feedback so i have a better idea on my old eclipse i had a t-60 and it had a bunch of lag but when it had boost DAMMMM it flew.so im out peace

I wish i could help you on that one.I like the 368-SX's but thats just IMO.But then again...i also like the IHI BB turbo's too.So i guess i shouldn't be anwsering your question huh?I dont know of any 3000GT (VR-4) that has made over 700hp.But you can be the first.If you do end up doing such a thing please tell us your how it go's and if you can take some pics.Good luck.

i know Matt Monett from Dynamic racing has the record for the fastest 1/4 and i'm pretty sure he did it with 368's. I know he has upgraded to DR-1000's and it would seem that he should be able to break his record with his new turbos so I really don't know what to tell ya other than talk to him or other people. Go onto 3si.org or try and call dynamic and see what they have to say.

dont worry ill find out i still got time before i buy this vr4 im in no rush i got enough cars now i have 6 no 7 is alot lol.and dsm u better believe ill post pics cuz ill need them for insurance when i put coverage on it cuz when im putting 35g's into a car i want to have proof of every damn thing

I've heard that basically when upgrading, that after a certain point the TD-05 housing turbos didn't offer that much of a gain. With the exceptions of Matt and another guy. But most havn't seen a substantial gain after the 15Gs.
There are 4 guys who have broken into the 10s and none of them have 1000hp, or even 800 i think. Those turbos are said to be able to handle 1000hp, they wont give it to you. Also realize all 4 of these guys have heavily affiliated with tuner shops, this means they have money to put towards their cars. Anyone can dump 6 grand into their vr4 and get 11s, but you will need 10s of 10s of thousands to get faster...don't think it will be easy or cheap. Also realize that with TD-05 housing turbos you will need to fabricate some stuff to make them fit, you will have more noticeable lag which isn't ideal for daily driving/street racing, only drag.

Check out :
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=209357&page=1&pp=10

for a decent guide to choosing a turbo upgrade. 5-6 grand for just the turbos seems quite alot, I would think you could find much better prices than that.

wat does that tread u posted have to do with the turbo stuff im talking about?

and theres a guy on this forum hes from canada and hes at 9.13 @171mph and hes not sponsored or nothing so i know its possible for me to do that

and theres a guy on this forum hes from canada and hes at 9.13 @171mph and hes not sponsored or nothing so i know its possible for me to do that


You really should read the entire thread before you go quoting people. If you get up to 171mph in the quarter you will be lower than 9.13.

wel i just said thats what he says i dunno for sure hes in canada im not.so things could be different there for all i know

im pretty sure thats not true that would be the fastest and as far as not over 700 hp, on an engine dyno we got 789 without any tuning just slap on the components and tested it out so its definately possible

Sorry, wrong thread, I was sending that to another person, here's the correct one:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-turboguide.htm

And there is noone that runs a 9.13 in a vr4 that has proved it with a timeslip. unless they have just the vr4 body put on another car, but there is no vr4 that has been recorded to run that fast, and if he ran 171 I would think he'd be in the low 8s.
What is his name on this forum...I wanna hear this for myself...

Tearz...you have close to 800hp at the crank, untuned?

no not me gt pro's drag pro does

The guy who ran 9 whatever at 170 something was lieing. Does no one remember this guy? I called him out on it. He stole every picture of "his" car from someone I know. Its a chicagoland car, and the pictures were on cardomain and 3si.

So someone has ran over 700 hp on our engines?I didn't know that.It would take some money to do that i would think.

it did

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you guys are talking baout dorkdevil.... errr... i mean darkdevil i assume (the guy from canada) he has started several BS posts and has been flammed worse than anyone that i have ever seen. that was all BS he has not run that time. apparently according to a more reputable 3si member up there, he does have a fast car that maybe has 10 sec. capeability but not 9.13 and no where near 170 mph.

also, matt m. is not the current 1/4 mile 3/S record holder although he was a few years ago. it is currently some japonese car, i forgot what it was called. also i believe that the japonese bee racing car ran faster than matt not too long ago, as did the AAM car i think (or maybe it was just in the 10's and trapped higher). also jack t. did it years ago with like 15G's or something. i am about 99% sure that more than 4 people and/or cars have been in the 10's with a 3/S. i think it is at least 5.

also i am about 99% sure that the dr-1000 are not td-05 housing turbos as someone made it sound before. i think they are t3/t4 housing turbos. the stock turbos are td-04 housing turbos and for making REALLY big power they just will not cut it because their housing is too small and eventually they are just too restrictive.

also, i am not sure that anyone has prooved that they have much more than 700 hp at the wheels before. i am sure that drag pro is more than capeable and i really hope they finish it and run it, but we have heard big things about drag pro for years now and have yet to see any real results so i am not holding my breath. i am sure it will be awesome when and if it gets done (wern't they going for more like 1000awhp not 800 engine hp) but it seems as if it never will.

as far as the turbo decision goes, you need to decide what you want to do. do you want 600awhp or 700 awhp or 1000 awhp? do you want a car that will break all the time but make big power? do you want a car that you can drive all the time with pretty big power but you don't want to fix things all the time? are you willing to wait until 3000 rpm to spool up? what about 4000 or 5000rpm? the big td-05 and 06 housing turbos like 20G's spool around 4500 rpm i think and i would assume that the dr-1000 take that long or longer. i am assuming that you would be building a drag only car here and not a roadcourse car because turbos that big would be bad for a course, especially a tight or technical one. if you want to run on a road course, there is really no reason to go any bigger than a 15G's (maybe 14b's) because you will just have too much lag and you will never be in a good part of the power band for long. so what are your exact goals? that is what should determine what turbos you want.

dr-1000's are not a td04 housing turbo. As stated they are a t3/t4 combo and the price includes some of the required piping. If you compare the price of that kit vs some of the supra upgrades its very resaonably priced.

So far using that kit Matt from DR has managed a 11.0X at 5000FT with only 4 days of tuning on that setup. I think he said they started to spool at 3500 (the early boost coudl be attributed to the DR stage III heads)

I think he said they started to spool at 3500 (the early boost coudl be attributed to the DR stage III heads)

damn! i did not realize that he had the heads on there as well, that would help i would think. 3500 is damn low for those monsters though. it is going to be fun seeing him and pete p. duke it out at the RMG :smokin:

well if i can find some heads that will have the turbos spool at like 2000rpm hell ill get these ones i saw on alteredatmosphere capable of 35psi+ it would be like this video of a skyline i got on a dyno the car accually moves forward on the dyno cuz of the power i want that to me my vr4.and ill do it no matter how long it takes me

to my knowledge matt's dr1000's are pretty much the biggest turbos that anyone has put on our cars. i know trevor was going with something big soon as well as a few other people, and there is that guy in mexico that is supposedly building an 8 sec. 3/S with some monster freekin turbo and he said he is fabricating a whole new tranny, t-case, etc. but i do not think that any of them are planning on spooling anywhere near 2000 rpm.

some turbo setup that can effectivly push 35psi on our cars i doubt could ever spool up at 2000 rpm but maybe if it was a ball bearing turbo with a big shot of nitrous to help it spool. also, if you are running 35 psi effectivly, you will not be able to come any where close to launching the car, hell punching it from a roll would probably make your car puke out tranny parts every time. if you want to make crazy high hp no matter how long it takes you, i suggest you start by fabricating a driveline that is much much much stronger than stock. you will also need at least one of those carbon carbon clutches. after that, all you have to do is buy a $10,000 turbo setup and get all the supporting mods (fuel, aem, etc.) and you could do it.

not many saw what drag pro could do i did i worked at gt pro thats all im saying, to my knowledge it hasn't ran on the track fully tuned, and it would have at the ng but as you should know they got in a wreck

i have heard that from many people that have acctually seen it so i do not doubt it. the wreck was nothing major right? it did not damage drag pro or anything it was just some sort of breakdown of the trailor that they were using right? all i am saying is that they have been getting peoples hopes up for so long with no visible results to the public that a lot of us have lost faith that they ever will. if it was ready for the last ng and they just had the trailor break down, why couldn't they just run it at a track near their shop? you have no idea how much i would love to hear how that car acctually performs but as i said, i would not hold my breath.

how many people have seen it? anyways yea the trailer broke nothing major happened , and the reason they didn't run it was that it wasn't there car it was a customer's and he was going to be running it on the track. if you want numbers your going to have to contact the owner of the car.

not many people i guess. brian and others that have worked there. i allways forget that it is a customer car. that makes more sense but damn, that customer needs to run that thing! do you have any idea why he has not run it? the car was finished for the last ng right? are they doing more?

yeah, well i don't think it was completely tuned yet but he wanted it so they gave it. yeah we all saw it but i haven't seen it for about a year